Baiting the area!! Legal / llegal

[Goat]

is it illegal to bait the area you want to fish with be it with what ever................

cause ive seen a lot of people do it and put boeys out to keep you spot maked,

lost a fair few fish to them!!:fishn

ive snuck my line into a few of the guys spots and set up camp infront of old ones and the fishing has been "ON THE HOOK" (escuse the pun)

 

what do you guys think love to hear your thoughts!!

 

[Stefan Engelbrecht]

As far as I know in the Western Cape it is not illegal to leave a marker unattached from the shore in the water. However, I saw the water police fine an angler R1200 at Bronkhorstspruit Dam in March 2009 for having a marker unattached from the shore in the water. I therefore assume it is illegal in Gauteng. By "unattached from shore" I mean that there is no connection between the marker and the shore. A rod with a marker float cast out is therefore not illegal because it is attached or in contact with the shore. Now that is if I understand the law correctly...

You mention the exact reason why it is a risk feeding a public dam - other anglers fishing your area. There are a few tricks you can do to prevent this.

Prebaiting is a very effective strategy especially for big carp because it gives the big carp chance to work out the smaller carp.

I have had some of my best sessions on a prebaited area, but I have also had some of my best sessions when I fed the correct quantity of bait at the correct time interval so prebaiting is not a necessity but it is definately a very very effective strategy and if I can my first choice is always prebaiting.

 

[Goat]

thanks for the reply!!

so if i were to bait i should have line to the shore just incase the PoPo show up i can pull it in quik!!! lol

ive tried those molassis balls that you shoot in with the wrist rocket and they didnt really improve the tempo much is there a time line bait and fish a few days later!!

but then in contradiction the specimen guys say dont over feed


because when i got to a dam with markers in place and fish the markers holy :cens the fishing was good!!! ::titanic:

 

[pumamangp]

it all depends on the size of the dam and the amount of fish inside and availablity of natural food.

those balls take like 4 hours to break down so if you just going for a day session those wont help you.

you should locate the fish and put your hook baits in that area but if you can not locat them then make a feeding spot to bring them into your area. (it will take them a while to locate your feeding spot)

in gauteng putting out a maker bouy is illegal and you will get fined if caught. the best way to mark your area is to use a land mark for the direction and to clip your line at the correct distance. that way no marker is needed.

 

[Goat]

i have got a bit of OCD when it comes to fishing, first 5 cast i do in 30min intervals then from there every hour i rebait and cast out untill i find the rite combo of dip bait etc, is this the right way cause im your typical "vaalie" until i found this forum:sval:

ive learnt so much my brain might pop!!
but please any other tips threds what ever you recon i need to improve
been fishing for 10 years what i thought was quit advanced fishing was horribly wrong!! im a pap gooier and i thought i was quit the specimen angler!! but hey you live and learn would love to improve in any way i can!!!

 

[Naruto]

Goat, do you want to continue with papgooi, or are you interested in going over to specimen angling?

 

[Goat]

i like a challenge and would like to expand my horizons as far as i can and also keep it enjoyable. if that make any sense!!!

as lond as i catch fish im happy but the bigger the better!!

 

[SHINO]

how does one clip there line? i have a problem wheres my casts are inconsistent on the distance part, direction is good though...

 

[Goat]

if you row your lines out it makes it easy but not shure for casting cause that can cause all sorts of monkey palace!!!

i used to just mark my line with a permanent marker or tie a knot in it so you know your their but you need some 1 watching if you row to let you know!!!
cause id probly row my whole fishing stand and box into the water!!

 

[pumamangp]

shino you cast and when you are happy with the distance you clip your line in the line clip on your reel. then when you reel in and recast you can only cast that far each time because the line clip will stop the line from going any further.

 

[SHINO]

interesting... okay next question, wont the sudden stop snap the line? or would you weight your cast so that by the time it's getting close to the clipped portion the speed is dying? the reason im asking is because casting on point will create a lekker feeding area illiminating the need to row out and create a spot

 

[pumamangp]

the best thing to do is put a small piece of tape on the line at the peice that goes into the line clip. that way if it comes out you have the distance maked. also this will allow you to take the line out of the line clip once you have cast and are waiting for a bite, incase a BFC takes your bait and needs line to run.
feathering the line during your cast will also help the bait land softly.

 

[SHINO]

thanx puma... thats some good info.

 

[pumamangp]

when you come collect your stuff ill show you and share some tips with you

 

[Stefan Engelbrecht]

There are a few different ways to fish clipped in. At a new venue or when you are looking for the fish, cast out your rod to a certain distance on feeling. If the rod runs, let it run until it stops and then clip in your line. You can now continue fighting the fish and when you cast again you are on the same spot where you got your run.

Another method is to walk out a measured distance and clip in and then reel up and cast. I do this when I want to fish at a predetermined distance like 90m.

These two methods only work for small fish because the lines remain clipped in. If you pick up a bigger fish it is going to snap you off. What I do when fishing a venue with big fish is to place 2 markers on the shore that are say 90m apart. Before every cast you walk out the 90m, clip in, reel up, cast out, unclip and put your rod down. You repeat this every time you cast. It is hard work yes, but I found that because you are catching bigger fish your run tempo is slower so walking the distance is not so much effort.

Yes, the sudden stop can snap your line and believe me it has happened a few times to me. You sometimes forget that you are clipped in at say 60m and you cast for 100m and SNAP! To stop this from happening you keep your rod pointing backward while the line is traveling, as it hits the clip you swiftly lower the rod to feather the impact and pull the tip below the surface. This pulls the line tight and cuts through the surface tension of water. A very effective technique when the wind is blowing. As you develope a feel for how hard the cast is to reach the clipped distance you can keep the rod upright instead of backward because you don't need to break the cast as hard anymore. Needless to say this technique doesn't work if you cast for 100m and you are clipped at 60m. You wan't to achieve a gentle touch down into the water.

I don't like tape on my line at all because it interferes with the line going through the eyes. Permanent marker on hi viz line does also work but it is not as accurate as clipping in. It is not always neccessary to clip in, especially in summer. Permanent Marker on hi viz line that you made a long black stripe on is good enough. You only need to be in the general area usually.

 

[Naruto]

I am always afraid that the clip will cut into my line, so I never clip in. If I want to cast 60-70m I use my very soft 10' rods. Can't cast further than 70m unless you really try. For longer distance I use my 12' Bazookas. With the Bazookas I basically have two actions. One is normally short of 100m and the other is past a 100m.

I geuss it all depends on the individual. The more you fish the more you get to know your equipment. At our next clubcomp, we will be having a bit of a casting competition to see just how far the guys really cast compared to how far they say they can cast. I think it is going to be very interesting.

 

[pumamangp]

well said Stefan

 

[Kosie]

I have never used the line clip before so this might be A dumb question.... Wont it be better to cast about 5 meters or so past your chosen spot and then clip your line, and then just give it 3 or 4 winds quickly before your bait hits the bottom, that way you have some free line to play with when the fish takes it and your bait lies on your chosen spot? Obviously it wont work the first cast cause by the time you clip your line your bait will be on the bottom but after that it should be ok? Or am I just someone who has obviously never done it before?

 

[Sinkwa]

Hey guys

Just want to find out more on feeding rules and regulations for KZN. From your guys point of view the feeding is not illegal its the marker boy.Is the marker boy illegal because it could be a danger to motor driven boats?????If it is maybe i should use a steel cable and a submerged log, had my fare share of lines cut off from boats and jet ski's

 

[Stefan Engelbrecht]

Kosie,

Yes, it can work to give you a few meters to play the fish. Also remeber that your trace swings back through the water if you keep the line stiff so your feeding area is not exactly where your trace landed on the cast. Depending on the water depth, this could be many meters closer to you.

Fishing clipped-in is only for targeting smaller carp. The bigger fish will only break you off. It is possible though to remove the line quickly from the clip if the fish runs you onto the clip.