A customer asked me why there is such a trend toward using fixed spool( grinder) reels for all types of fishing ,and what is the advantage of using a coffee grinder for basic bottom fishing at sea.surely a coffee grinder does not have the drag capacity of a multiplier reel If you were buying a reel for bottom fishing what would it be ( excluding scarbourough or kps)
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- Thread starter Mouldz
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MOULDIE wrote:
My opinion is that fixed spool reels have developed in leaps and bound over the last couple of years.
Their strength and drag capabilities now match some multipliers.
Previously, although some were large in size they did not compare so smaller ones now which is built more strong and have better drag systems.
And lets face it nearly all fisherman somewhere in their lives got acquainted with a grinder.
A customer asked me why there is such a trend toward using fixed spool( grinder) reels for all types of fishing ,and what is the advantage of using a coffee grinder for basic bottom fishing at sea.surely a coffee grinder does not have the drag capacity of a multiplier reel If you were buying a reel for bottom fishing what would it be ( excluding scarbourough or kps)
My opinion is that fixed spool reels have developed in leaps and bound over the last couple of years.
Their strength and drag capabilities now match some multipliers.
Previously, although some were large in size they did not compare so smaller ones now which is built more strong and have better drag systems.
And lets face it nearly all fisherman somewhere in their lives got acquainted with a grinder.
aquadementia
Sealiner
most decent grinders have better drags than multipliers
multiplier
torium 16, 20, 30 - 22lbs drag
trinidad DC - 22lbs drag
trinidad A - 25lbs
tld - 23lbs
spinning
spheros 8000 - 27lbs
sustain 8000 - 29lbs
stella SW 8000 - 55lbs
in My opinion Multipliers for bottoM fishing are old news and cant coMpare to spinning reels, neverMind only the drag but coMfort/balance, the screaMing drag of a grinder and the versatility. there are very few instances where a Multiplier would be a better choice for bottoM fishing than a grinder
multiplier
torium 16, 20, 30 - 22lbs drag
trinidad DC - 22lbs drag
trinidad A - 25lbs
tld - 23lbs
spinning
spheros 8000 - 27lbs
sustain 8000 - 29lbs
stella SW 8000 - 55lbs
in My opinion Multipliers for bottoM fishing are old news and cant coMpare to spinning reels, neverMind only the drag but coMfort/balance, the screaMing drag of a grinder and the versatility. there are very few instances where a Multiplier would be a better choice for bottoM fishing than a grinder
Hiya
It's best to compare apples with apples, so lets look at some reels in the same price range.
Shimano Toruim 20 and 30 BOTH have a MAXIMUM drag of 20lb's.
Shimano Stradic 6000 and 8000 BOTH have a MAXIMUM drag of 29lb's!!
All of these reels are in the same price class, so they can be directly compared.
The fixed spool reel has a stronger drag and offers far more versatility. You can drop 6-10oz sinkers to the bottom or cast 1oz plugs/spoons, all with the same reel. No worrying about overwinds when sight casting to fish (when ones nerves are normally shattered!!). VERY easy to cast HARD with when using braid.
The modern fixed spool reel, with the advent of braid has revolutionised the boating game!!
Now for some really SCARY figures:
Shimano Tiagra 80W, which is a MONSTER of a reel and one of THE best big game fishing reels, capable of landing ANYTHING that we fish for, offered 44lb's of drag.
Shimano Stella's 8000-20000SW spinning reels ALL offer 55lb's of drag!!!
Its all rather acedemic, as 25lb's of drag is the most one can use on a boat fighting stand-up style with a harness. Anything more and the angler will get pulled out of the boat...........
What does this mean for us local anglers. Well, you could buy a 8000 Shimano Stradic spinning reel, which comes with 2 spools. Load 50lb braid onto the one and 30lb onto the other. You can then use the same reel to fish off the surf for elf or cob, fish off the rocks for galgoen and other bank fish, fish off the boat for yellowtail, snoek, cob, geelbek, be it bottom fishing or throwing lures and even tackle big game fish like sailfish and striped marlin and even YF tuna!! REALLY very VERSATILE indeed!!
It's best to compare apples with apples, so lets look at some reels in the same price range.
Shimano Toruim 20 and 30 BOTH have a MAXIMUM drag of 20lb's.
Shimano Stradic 6000 and 8000 BOTH have a MAXIMUM drag of 29lb's!!
All of these reels are in the same price class, so they can be directly compared.
The fixed spool reel has a stronger drag and offers far more versatility. You can drop 6-10oz sinkers to the bottom or cast 1oz plugs/spoons, all with the same reel. No worrying about overwinds when sight casting to fish (when ones nerves are normally shattered!!). VERY easy to cast HARD with when using braid.
The modern fixed spool reel, with the advent of braid has revolutionised the boating game!!
Now for some really SCARY figures:
Shimano Tiagra 80W, which is a MONSTER of a reel and one of THE best big game fishing reels, capable of landing ANYTHING that we fish for, offered 44lb's of drag.
Shimano Stella's 8000-20000SW spinning reels ALL offer 55lb's of drag!!!
Its all rather acedemic, as 25lb's of drag is the most one can use on a boat fighting stand-up style with a harness. Anything more and the angler will get pulled out of the boat...........
What does this mean for us local anglers. Well, you could buy a 8000 Shimano Stradic spinning reel, which comes with 2 spools. Load 50lb braid onto the one and 30lb onto the other. You can then use the same reel to fish off the surf for elf or cob, fish off the rocks for galgoen and other bank fish, fish off the boat for yellowtail, snoek, cob, geelbek, be it bottom fishing or throwing lures and even tackle big game fish like sailfish and striped marlin and even YF tuna!! REALLY very VERSATILE indeed!!
MOULDIE wrote:
Let me explain from personal experience. A lot of competitive guys up here are fishing with grinders, more specifically with the Shimano Ultegra and Daiwa Saltiga Surf, loaded with braid. Last night a few of my club members and i fished in a Greyshark smash, they where loaded with their grinders and i with my Tor30 and Assassin heavy. They absolutely creamed me!! We all used the same trace and bait. The difference was that they where getting about 15 to 20meters extra in their cast!! There was also a strong current and weeds in the water, with their setup they where getting much less weeds on there braid as opposed to my .47mm mono, and the braid doesn't catch the current as easily as mono, there for they only needed to throw 5oz grapnels and i 8oz. As for feeling the bites, every single nibble is transmitted down the rod even with the current,no hitting was needed, they just walked back and lifted the rod to set the hooks. So proof is in the pudding. The only down fall of a grinder is that braid isn't rock friendly lol!A customer asked me why there is such a trend toward using fixed spool( grinder) reels for all types of fishing ,and what is the advantage of using a coffee grinder for basic bottom fishing at sea.surely a coffee grinder does not have the drag capacity of a multiplier reel If you were buying a reel for bottom fishing what would it be ( excluding scarbourough or kps)