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100% African
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Try a black jighead with a skirt. Cast out and retrive at a medium to slow pace. You trying to get it to pass over the wiskers of the berbel to induce a strike.
Anything that creates a lot of movement is good...
Anything that creates a lot of movement is good...
kitefisher
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[color=#006600]Raphi[/color] wrote:
You already got some sound advice from 100%Africa.Drop-shot as it is called here is known as soft-plastic fishing in most other countries and has been a preffered method of angling for a long ,long time.
What has worked form me,on various ocassions is a plain black curly tail as in Bass curlytail, on a half ounce jighead or slightly heavier depending on distance needed to cast ,black with the chartreuse tail works just as good..Some days just bobbing them towards you inch by inch does the trick,on other occassions a slow variable retrieve does it .Play around with your retrieve very much as in the surf,and remember slower is better ,you may also use brighter colours,but somehow black seems a good target to them.
Once hooked you will have fun
Enjoy
You already got some sound advice from 100%Africa.Drop-shot as it is called here is known as soft-plastic fishing in most other countries and has been a preffered method of angling for a long ,long time.
What has worked form me,on various ocassions is a plain black curly tail as in Bass curlytail, on a half ounce jighead or slightly heavier depending on distance needed to cast ,black with the chartreuse tail works just as good..Some days just bobbing them towards you inch by inch does the trick,on other occassions a slow variable retrieve does it .Play around with your retrieve very much as in the surf,and remember slower is better ,you may also use brighter colours,but somehow black seems a good target to them.
Once hooked you will have fun
Enjoy
Marthin
Sealiner
Kite... Berkly makes a MOERSE grub with curly tail for saltwater angling. I'd say all in all the thing is about 6 - 8 inches long. Regarding our other post of the bigger types of lures for whiskas, perhaps an option? I have only found them in some nasty reddish gold colour, but a black or white one could work a trick me thinks. I'm also planning on trying them for cob in the tidal rivers this summer, as i read an article of guys catching cob with these big curley tails.
[color=#006600]Raphi[/color] wrote:
Hiya Raphi,
Not sure if you are on foot or on a boat or if you have ever caught barble on lure?
All the advice is sound and will deff work. My 2c is that barble are 'dumb' feeders and don't pay much attention to detail, but rather movement. Saying this anything goes! I had most sucess with slow moving lures right on the bottom. In most cases you will virtually nudge the fish into action. My most productive lure was a home made jig type thing comprising of strips of inner tube!?!
The best barbel fishing is stalking. Mornings and evenings the barble often layup in shallow water, around structure and even just under weed growth. If you are careful enough and fish a remote area you can actually choose the railway sleeper to target. Its great fun and almost comical watching the fish slowly becomming aware of the lure until it suddenly lunges to strike..........that when all sh!t break loose and the fun on light tackle begins.
Man this gogga is starting to itch!!
Hiya Raphi,
Not sure if you are on foot or on a boat or if you have ever caught barble on lure?
All the advice is sound and will deff work. My 2c is that barble are 'dumb' feeders and don't pay much attention to detail, but rather movement. Saying this anything goes! I had most sucess with slow moving lures right on the bottom. In most cases you will virtually nudge the fish into action. My most productive lure was a home made jig type thing comprising of strips of inner tube!?!
The best barbel fishing is stalking. Mornings and evenings the barble often layup in shallow water, around structure and even just under weed growth. If you are careful enough and fish a remote area you can actually choose the railway sleeper to target. Its great fun and almost comical watching the fish slowly becomming aware of the lure until it suddenly lunges to strike..........that when all sh!t break loose and the fun on light tackle begins.
Man this gogga is starting to itch!!
kitefisher
Sealiner
[color=#006600]Marthin[/color] wrote:
Marthin ,Storm also make one that resembles the size that you mention,and I am still convinced that if a proper BIG barbel comes by while in feeding mode it will pick it up.Although it might spook a couple of smaller ones,who cares.There is also absolutely no doubt in my mind that you will catch kobbies on those lures too,I have caught them on super-shadraps which has a fairly similar shape.To my mind successfuly catching Saltwater species on lure,be it lipped or spoon ,depends more in locating the target-specie .i.e correct structure/formation/banks etc,than on the physicall characteristics of the lure/spoon being used.
There are similarities between the above species as well,I know of guys that have caught kob on spoon when all possible retrieve-methods failed,and their guide advised them to cast ,take up slack and wait for only the wave action to move the spoon around,great success within minutes,repeatedly so.Strange but true.
Although a kob can "out-ambush"a shad or mullet and a barbel can do same to kurper and karp,I think like Trophy explained they might be somewhat opportunistic and rather hover/lie in wait for the prey to get as close as possible,within striking distance,than waste energy chasing them down for extended periods.
my 2pennies
For those who do not understand,'"MOERSE" is the proper Afrikaans for "GROOT" LOL
Marthin ,Storm also make one that resembles the size that you mention,and I am still convinced that if a proper BIG barbel comes by while in feeding mode it will pick it up.Although it might spook a couple of smaller ones,who cares.There is also absolutely no doubt in my mind that you will catch kobbies on those lures too,I have caught them on super-shadraps which has a fairly similar shape.To my mind successfuly catching Saltwater species on lure,be it lipped or spoon ,depends more in locating the target-specie .i.e correct structure/formation/banks etc,than on the physicall characteristics of the lure/spoon being used.
There are similarities between the above species as well,I know of guys that have caught kob on spoon when all possible retrieve-methods failed,and their guide advised them to cast ,take up slack and wait for only the wave action to move the spoon around,great success within minutes,repeatedly so.Strange but true.
Although a kob can "out-ambush"a shad or mullet and a barbel can do same to kurper and karp,I think like Trophy explained they might be somewhat opportunistic and rather hover/lie in wait for the prey to get as close as possible,within striking distance,than waste energy chasing them down for extended periods.
my 2pennies
Marthin
Sealiner
Ok here is my plan... U put a 6-8 inch curley tail grub on a 1 ounce jig. the body of these beauts is about the length and thickness of my index finger. Now if you can get it into the water without spooking one of these railway sleeper size fellows, and u get this lure to bounce around in 20-30 cm "hops" along the bottom, or even better against or over structure, u will have to get a strike. Not that the 2 are the same, but kob often take a lure because of it hitting the bottom, and the fish sensing this "thud" "thud" on the bottom. In a still body of water it should produce this even better with whiskas...
kitefisher
Sealiner
Agreed Marthin ,We sometimes bounce big jigs up and down on the bottom in 5-6 meters of water from a boat ,and if there are any decent cat in the vicinity ,they cant resist striking.Just that kicking up of a bit of dust is probably what triggers the strike.
Bouncing it from half a meter or so from bottom normally does it ,At that depth I dont think whiskers can really see with those puny little eyes,and they probably go more on vibration detected by whiskers,luckily he cant differentiate between a "platanna" or a loodkop or even soft plastic..
Bouncing it from half a meter or so from bottom normally does it ,At that depth I dont think whiskers can really see with those puny little eyes,and they probably go more on vibration detected by whiskers,luckily he cant differentiate between a "platanna" or a loodkop or even soft plastic..