fisherman07
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hi guys I'm getting carbontex drag washers fitted and getting my reel service for r350 do u guys think this is cheap or am I getting ripped off?
hi guys I'm getting carbontex drag washers fitted
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Carbontex alone could set you back R250 and up depending on the reel.
The service then makes up the balance but is it a thorough service? Will the bearings get flushed? Frame and all components cleaned? Cals Grease for drag, Hot Sauce for bearings, etc. ?
Have seen a reel come from "service" that looked like it had just been fished in the surf.
All in all, you are paying a fair price and I hope its with a reputable store/individual.
The service then makes up the balance but is it a thorough service? Will the bearings get flushed? Frame and all components cleaned? Cals Grease for drag, Hot Sauce for bearings, etc. ?
Have seen a reel come from "service" that looked like it had just been fished in the surf.
All in all, you are paying a fair price and I hope its with a reputable store/individual.
Dave Batista
Sealiner
Jip the exchange rate is what is gonna kill the fishing industry in SA if it doesn't come down soon things are gonna get worse not better. Only been here in NZ for 3 days and am loving the power of the dollar already. I'm gonna come back to SA next year may for 2 weeks and if the exchange rate stays the same or gets worse then I'm gonna be living like a king for 2 weeks thats for sure.
Hi craig thanks for putting up this information. Guys sometimes forget the exchange rate and the fluctuation of the volitile rand and that kings would buy bulk orders from smoothdrag and prob get better pricing too. Then they can afford to carry stock for long as the bussiness has so many different avenues to supliment income to be able to carry that stock laying still. Smaller clients pay internet pricing then postage cost and clearing and forwarding costs also. The pricing given is really good from kings and most likely very old stock also, so no its not a rip off at all.
Also remember you get what you pay for. I use only the best products when i service any reel.
This is my full time income.
I place quality of workmanship above quantity.
My service cost reflects this as is inline with pricing in cape town, one shop near to me charges almost R100 more, when reels have issues i open clean and often dont repair due to costing or my recommendation and i do this for free still. Time and income i cannot recoup.
One needs to look in context always the make your evaluation and comment to be fair. The products i use are all imoorted nithing is locally available this puts costs up on my side which inturn reduces money made on service costs. Yes there are folks who take advantage of people i here this often when clients bring reels to me that was elsewhere and i see very poor workmanship at times which is upsetting.
I clean reels with waterbased cleaner and toothbrushes which takes 4 times longer than people using benzine. So im actually making 4 times less income, once again i put quality first.
So again put thingsninto perspective before judging others, you get what you pay for.
So far im concerned the best value for money, with quality workmanship and an unconditional quarentee is what i have always offered that will never change by me.
Thanks jonathano
Also remember you get what you pay for. I use only the best products when i service any reel.
This is my full time income.
I place quality of workmanship above quantity.
My service cost reflects this as is inline with pricing in cape town, one shop near to me charges almost R100 more, when reels have issues i open clean and often dont repair due to costing or my recommendation and i do this for free still. Time and income i cannot recoup.
One needs to look in context always the make your evaluation and comment to be fair. The products i use are all imoorted nithing is locally available this puts costs up on my side which inturn reduces money made on service costs. Yes there are folks who take advantage of people i here this often when clients bring reels to me that was elsewhere and i see very poor workmanship at times which is upsetting.
I clean reels with waterbased cleaner and toothbrushes which takes 4 times longer than people using benzine. So im actually making 4 times less income, once again i put quality first.
So again put thingsninto perspective before judging others, you get what you pay for.
So far im concerned the best value for money, with quality workmanship and an unconditional quarentee is what i have always offered that will never change by me.
Thanks jonathano
To put it into context Kingfisher washers have to be bought from them by a shop and then sold to the customer so at their new pricing they are sure to be more expensive than what you are supplying at.
Simple answer to the guy and I'm sure he got the gist is
1. that he is definitely not being ripped off.
2. This is your livelyhood and not a hobby. You have bills to pay and a business to run, just as he does.
Would i take my car to a backyard mechanic with half a box of tools for a guaranteed repair or to a reputable workshop offering after work support and service with all the required tools to do the job?
Yes it's not a car but it's my reel and I take it to someone who knows what's going on inside and I pay the premium because I know the job will be done right first time and I will get service if a problem reoccurs.
Simple answer to the guy and I'm sure he got the gist is
1. that he is definitely not being ripped off.
2. This is your livelyhood and not a hobby. You have bills to pay and a business to run, just as he does.
Would i take my car to a backyard mechanic with half a box of tools for a guaranteed repair or to a reputable workshop offering after work support and service with all the required tools to do the job?
Yes it's not a car but it's my reel and I take it to someone who knows what's going on inside and I pay the premium because I know the job will be done right first time and I will get service if a problem reoccurs.
I service all my reels by myself and I know how long it takes . I simply cant believe how little you guys charge.
To jump to carbontex washers , i could not find the size for a new China Reel - Teben Sea 20000 that I have as I was adding extra plates and thinner carbontex washers. I went and bought 0.5 mm and 1.0 mm carbontex sheets from Downriggers in Australia . It came in a week time in envelope. I machined punches to my size and pop them in no time.
It cost me a fragment of price that you guys pay for already made on e. Only set back was time to make punches
To jump to carbontex washers , i could not find the size for a new China Reel - Teben Sea 20000 that I have as I was adding extra plates and thinner carbontex washers. I went and bought 0.5 mm and 1.0 mm carbontex sheets from Downriggers in Australia . It came in a week time in envelope. I machined punches to my size and pop them in no time.
It cost me a fragment of price that you guys pay for already made on e. Only set back was time to make punches
Dragon I have played aroundnwith a lot ofnthe carbon materials.but have yet to find one that handles the friction that the carbonated can handle and till now only.been able to find. 7mm and none of the 1mm and. 7mm we generally use in carbonated.
The carbon sheet we use with carbonated have to be water jet cit and cannot be punched.
The carbon sheet we use with carbonated have to be water jet cit and cannot be punched.
Enigma wrote:
Not sure about materials , but what I have is a carbon fiber material - comparing to a washers that are taken from my other Shimano reels - I see no difference but I am not expert in that field.
Not sure about punching - how do they get made ?
From their website:
http://www.downriggershop.com.au/carbontex-drag-washers.html
Hi Craig
Not sure about materials , but what I have is a carbon fiber material - comparing to a washers that are taken from my other Shimano reels - I see no difference but I am not expert in that field.
Not sure about punching - how do they get made ?
From their website:
http://www.downriggershop.com.au/carbontex-drag-washers.html
Hi
It's not the same material. The smoothdrag one is much harder wearing and virtually lasts forever.
They cut the Smoothdrag washers with a waterjet, I have tried punching smoothdrag to get a smaller washer, doesn't work and have tried with scissors (doesn't work) have to use a tinsnips to cut it.
It's not the same material. The smoothdrag one is much harder wearing and virtually lasts forever.
They cut the Smoothdrag washers with a waterjet, I have tried punching smoothdrag to get a smaller washer, doesn't work and have tried with scissors (doesn't work) have to use a tinsnips to cut it.