Hi all! A friend of mine is looking to convert
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have a look in this forum they may give you more than anought info
http://koionline.forumotion.com/
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http://southafricankoi.11.forumer.com/index.php
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http://southafricankoi.11.forumer.com/index.php
CrazyManiac1996
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what size do you think would be the minimun size pond would have to be to have bass, barbel or carp
they work out 1000 lt per fish otherwise your filtration system wil crash and you can get a nitrate spike remember small fish get big quikly so work out the volume water you have then how much fish you can put in kurper you can put in alot bass aswell but fish like carp and barbel in smaller amounts
CrazyManiac1996
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so do you think kurper would work well in a pond
Thank you all for the replys. The pool really is huge its 40000 litres so thats a lot of fish. I have in mind thhe kurper and tilapia species especially the ones that are mouth brooders and have predators they compete for food for so they keep each other in check. I have also heard that Black Molly are good algy eaters and thay reproduce quite fast would they be ok to live in a pool. They are easy to procure as my dad has a bunch of buddys that are still in the fish biz. Anyone heard about of his old shop AquaTech???. The Mollies are very hardy and I think they would survive pond life.
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wayneSTEELE
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I've been following his thread and I thought I'dd add my opinion.
I stay up in Namibia and on the farm we've got 2 cricket field size dams with flooded creek and river channels for 8 months a year. So 2 years ago I started stocking with kurper for fodder(only blues as they are easiest to find here! You buy them from the Minister of Fisheries for 15c a fish.)Fingerling sizes only. Next I added some small 15 cm "surplus" bass from our dams around Windhoek area.
My point is that Kurper are hardy fish, I've seen them survive in small, muddy and brackish cut-off ponds with zero vegetation or structure. You think they've died but then after the rain there are millions of minnows in the creek channels and cutoff ponds. Even transporting them they tolerate water that a bass would easily croak in.
So you wouldn't need to be as dedicated with water purity and filtration as with say Koi,but you'd probably like to see them fishies so the water should be clear.
Just another thing, I've kept bass in a standard swimming pool in crystal clear water for about 5 days. We use salt pools here instead of cholrine and the bass were lively and healthy when I eventually moved them to a natural dam on the farm!
I stay up in Namibia and on the farm we've got 2 cricket field size dams with flooded creek and river channels for 8 months a year. So 2 years ago I started stocking with kurper for fodder(only blues as they are easiest to find here! You buy them from the Minister of Fisheries for 15c a fish.)Fingerling sizes only. Next I added some small 15 cm "surplus" bass from our dams around Windhoek area.
My point is that Kurper are hardy fish, I've seen them survive in small, muddy and brackish cut-off ponds with zero vegetation or structure. You think they've died but then after the rain there are millions of minnows in the creek channels and cutoff ponds. Even transporting them they tolerate water that a bass would easily croak in.
So you wouldn't need to be as dedicated with water purity and filtration as with say Koi,but you'd probably like to see them fishies so the water should be clear.
Just another thing, I've kept bass in a standard swimming pool in crystal clear water for about 5 days. We use salt pools here instead of cholrine and the bass were lively and healthy when I eventually moved them to a natural dam on the farm!
wayneSTEELE
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wayneSTEELE
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Pic of one dam
michael grey
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Do you guys know where I can buy fingerling barbel for my pond ????? the place must be near PTA
I put fish in our swimming pool one winter when my dad decided he wasn't going to waste chlorine in winter.
First came the carp between 1-3kg, they spawned in September (they jumped out at night, so I had to go check for carp in our garden every morning), so with hundreds of small fry I got a bass to clean the business up, by the end of summer I had to start feeding him because he ate everything he could. The next summer it was crazy warm and I wanted to swim but the green water didn't look to appealing and I had a week long mission redoing the swimming pool.
I caught the carp with a bamboo and line, walked around the pool to tire them out, tested my hook-less lures on the bass, was great but will never do it again, very expensive experiment.
First came the carp between 1-3kg, they spawned in September (they jumped out at night, so I had to go check for carp in our garden every morning), so with hundreds of small fry I got a bass to clean the business up, by the end of summer I had to start feeding him because he ate everything he could. The next summer it was crazy warm and I wanted to swim but the green water didn't look to appealing and I had a week long mission redoing the swimming pool.
I caught the carp with a bamboo and line, walked around the pool to tire them out, tested my hook-less lures on the bass, was great but will never do it again, very expensive experiment.
We have a "salt" pool and my kids kept 3 bass for two weeks in there(crystal clear water). They weighted down a plastic chair with some bricks to give them some some structure and then used them to test their lures on. Eventualy I said to them that the Bass were so hungry they would eat anything they saw.They put them back in the live well and returned them to the dam seemingly none the worse for their experience.
this is of course only hypothetical as transporting and keeping bass in a pool or pond is illegal:
But if i had a farm with a pond on it 4mx2m and 500cm deep this is what i would do:
get a submersible pump, the type that one uses for koi ponds connect the pipe to one of those blue chemical barrels filled with pool sand and return the water. Fill the pond with structure, stones, water lilies, grass and stones (leave for 2 weeks to build a biological structure and fill with 5 1.5 kg bass.
Next to the pond i would have a big fish tank filled with platannas (frogs, those flat slippery ones). in no time the bass become accustomed to a person coming up to the pond and would be waiting. the frog wouldn’t hit the water and the fish would have it.
seen how bass attack and catch cape canneries drinking at the pond. too big to swallow, but they attack it until it drowns and when it stops moving they just leave it.
this is obviously all hypothetical
But if i had a farm with a pond on it 4mx2m and 500cm deep this is what i would do:
get a submersible pump, the type that one uses for koi ponds connect the pipe to one of those blue chemical barrels filled with pool sand and return the water. Fill the pond with structure, stones, water lilies, grass and stones (leave for 2 weeks to build a biological structure and fill with 5 1.5 kg bass.
Next to the pond i would have a big fish tank filled with platannas (frogs, those flat slippery ones). in no time the bass become accustomed to a person coming up to the pond and would be waiting. the frog wouldn’t hit the water and the fish would have it.
seen how bass attack and catch cape canneries drinking at the pond. too big to swallow, but they attack it until it drowns and when it stops moving they just leave it.
this is obviously all hypothetical
ChrisOvens
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ChrisOvens
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it took a while before i realised what was going on. In the mornings i often found 1 or two bed birds floating around, until i actually saw what was happening. was quite fascinating. There was a rock in the middle with the top sticking out the water, on which the birds would land. the bass would slowly float up to just below the bird and one would make the leap, after that it was chaos.