DAIWA SEALINE SHV30 - SERVICE AND REBUILD

alantani

Senior Member
fast and cheap.  not a bad combination.  fast means big gears and big drag washers.  cheap in price, perfectly decent in quality. here's a link to the schematic ......

http://mikesreelrepair.com/schematics/schematic.php?url=Daiwa/Daiwa%20Sealine%20-%20X20SHV,%20X30SHV.pdf

and here is our reel, beat to a pulp, down but not out.

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this is a casting reel.  for now, and in the future, we can service the bearings by pulling just the left side plate and spool.  nice design.  remove the three left side plate screws (key #1).

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that's all it takes to pull the spool. 

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if this reel is going to used for distance casting and you will be servicing the bearings frequently, then let's remove all of the hardware covering/protecting the left spool bearing (key #9) to allow easy access.  otherwise, let's leave it covered and just lube it up. 

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the right spool bearing (key #23) is highly vulnerable and frequently fails. 

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at the very least, let'd pull it out and remove the shields.  remove both bearing retainer screws (key #20) and the bearing retainer A (key #19).

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review the bearings post for a description of the different types of bearings and maintenance options.

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i've opted to clean this bearing and lube it with corrosion x.  if casting was not an issue, you could pack the bearing with grease as discussed in the bearing post. 

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back in it goes. 

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reinstall the spool (key #17).

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reinstall the left side plate assembly.

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now, for the right side plate assembly.  first, let's remove the handle nut plate (key #78) by pushing on two small tabs underneath the handle arm.

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ok, so these daiwa's are not the most corrosion resistant reels in the world.  actually, any reel with a handle nut cap has problems.  i see this commonly.  remove the handle nut (key #77).  then remove the handle (key #76).  this is where it can get ugly.  if it's badly stuck, then wiggle it anyway you can just to loosen it a little, then start backing out the star (key #74) counterclockwise to force the handle off.  yes, you run the risk of damaging the star and/or the drive shaft (key #59).  you could soak it in penetrating oil first, but, honestly, this usually works.

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see, i told you it would work!!!!!!  now, remove the spacing sleeve (key #75) and the star drag (key #74). 

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remove the drag spring washers (key #73) and bearing washer B (key #72).  note that the spring washers are cupped "()". 

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now for the right side plate.  remove the four right side plate screw A's (key #46) and the two right side plate screw B's (key #47).  take note, they are different.  also, there is no need to remove the clutch lever (key #42) or the cast control cap (key #54), so let's leave them in place. 

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remove the right side plate assembly (key #41).  it will lift off cleanly.  note that the bearing (key #71) stayed with the side plate.  pull it out and set it in line with everything else, or just leave it there for now. 

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remove collar B (key #70).

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remove collar A (key #69) and the water shield (key #68).

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remove o-ring C (key #67).  look carefully, it's there, and it's a hassle to remove.  if you tear it, don't worry.  it's no big deal. 

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when you bolt down the handle, a small burr forms on the drive shaft (key #59).  to make it easier to remove the metal drag washer and the main gear, let's take a flat file and file off the burr. 

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now the entire gear cluster slides right off.

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separate everything out, keep things in order, and clean everything up.  note that the metal washers alternate keyed (key #65) - eared (key #66) - keyed (key #65). 

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these felt washers started out off-white and often turn to black.

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until smoothdrag.com has a set of carbontex washers for this reel, you'll have to use penn ht-100 washers.  the smaller washer is a penn ht-100 #6-965 that has been ground down to a 15mm outer diameter.  you can use the full sized washer, though, and it goes under the gear.  the three larger washers go inside the gear.  they are part #56-440.  the fit is not exact, and you have to cut off the "keys," but it's close enough until a set of carbotex washers become available.  the washers are available from your local penn dealer, or from pennparts.com.

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slap a thick coat of shimano or cal's drag grease on the drag washers.  let the excess ooze out the sides. 

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rebuild the drag stack and alternate the metal washers "keyed/eared/keyed."

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replace the o-ring (key #67) if you still have it.

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replace collar A (key #69) and the water shield (key #68).

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replace collar B (key #70) and make sure it goes in "skinny side up."

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almost there.  everything ok so far?

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now, about that bearing (key #71).  sorry, it's toast.  it's a very common problem.   and don't be disappointed.  not a single reel manufacturer anywhere, from accurate to zelina, will take the time to adequately pack these drive shaft bearings with grease. 

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so let's replace it with a new bearing, pack that bearing with grease and put it back on the drive shaft.

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let's install the side plate (key #41).  first, the round peg on the clutch cam (key #39) has to match up with the oval hole of the yoke plate (key #28).

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second, the point of the pinion shaft (key #49) has to match up with the hole in the pinion gear (key #32).

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ok, everything is lined up properly, right?

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perfect!  you're in!!!  no?  ok, wiggle the clutch lever (key #42) just a little.  got it!

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reinstall side plate screws A (key #46) and B (key #47).

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paint a little grease on the drive shaft (key #59).  remember all the trouble we had getting the handle off?

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install the bearing washer B (key #72) and the drag spring washers (key #73) oriented "()".

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install the star (key #74).

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paint a little grease on the spacing sleeve (key #75) and install it. 

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install the handle (key #76), the handle nut (key #77), paint on a little extra grease and then install the handle nut cap (key #78).

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done!

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ok, a couple of editorial comments.  these reels cast great.  the speed shaft means that you do not have a spool shaft hanging up on the pinion gear to slow down the spool.  these reels, then, will cast just as well as a lever drag reel that has a spool with the same overall mass.  the drags are huge, but you get that with any high speed star drag reel.  i've never heard of any of these graphite frames breaking and these frames do not corrode.  and lastly, i hate the handles.  hey, three out of four is not so bad.  so if you're looking for a fast, light, strong, inexpensive reel, take a look at the daiwa sealine-x!
 

Razeen

Sealiner
Alan

 

What is your take on the Grandwave Z the silver reel exaclty the same but has 5 bearing and 1 roller bearing instead of a bush
 

BigBass

Sealiner
Thanks for another great and helpful post, Alan!

Have you ever done an old ABU Ambassadeur 8 000C or 10 000C?

I've had my ABUs for many years and have just sent off a request to http://www.smoothdrag.com for some Carbontex drag washers and Cal's Reel Grease. These ABUs have been great workhorse reels and good casters, too! Only thing that niggles me about them are their now jerky stock drags which will, hopefully, soon be a thing of the past with the Carbontex upgrade!
 

alantani

Senior Member
here is a list of the 25 smaller drag ht-100 drag washers that penn makes. the washers are listed by part #, followed by price as listed in pennparts.com as of this date (2/13/05), followed by the inner diameter in millimeters, the outer diameter in millimeters and the thickness in millimeters. what follows after that is a listing of the common reels that use this drag washer.

i did a single measurement for the inner diameter if round or a minimum and a maximum if the inside hole was hexagonal in shape. i did a single measurement of the outer diameter, not including the "keys" if the drag washer was keyed. "keyed" washers are so noted. i also did a single measurement of the thickness.

you may measure the stock drag washers in your reel, compare the dimensions (don't forget to account for thickness) and order drag washers accordingly. your local shop should be able to obtain the washers for you.


penn drag washer part # (price) / id x od x thickness in millimeters / reel

#6-25 ($6.00) / hex 22.88 min, 26.07 max x 54.13 x 1.22 / 25 gls, shimano tld 15

#6-49 ($1.00) / 10.55 x 28.67 x 0.95 / 49L super mariner

#6-60 ($0.75) / 10.61 x 20.44 x 0.92 / long beach 60, 140 squidder

#6-113 ($1.15) / 10.50 x 20.45 x 1.13 / senator 113 black

#6-113h ($1.40) / 13.06 x 27.02 x 1.34 / senator 113h red, calcutta 250

#6-114 ($1.15) / 15.16 x 24.25 x 1.23 / senator 114 black

#6-115 ($1.50) / 14.82 x 29.54 x 1.33 / senator 114h red, 115 black

#6-116 ($2.75) / 16.55 x 32.69 x 1.36 / senator 116 black

#6-117 ($2.75)/ 16.58 x 38.64 x 1.18 / senator 117 black, 118 black

#6-155 ($0.65) / 10.65 x 17.92 x 0.93 / 155 beachmaster

#6-309 ($1.10) / 10.76 x 24.59 x 0.93 / 500 jigmaster, 975, calcutta 700

#6-320 ($1.25) / 12.85 x 29.02 x 0.96 / 320 gti-gt2

#6-320LD ($8.50) / hex 19.18 min, 20.71 max x 45.88 x 1.25 / 320 lever drag

#6-525 ($1.50) / 10.55 x keyed 28.67 x 1.26 / graphite 525-535-545-555, 113hn

#6-855 ($1.00) / 11.99 x 21.48 x 1.21 / 855 line counter

#6-875 ($1.00) / 13.06 x 25.01 x 1.23 / 875 line counter

#6-895 ($1.25) / 16.05 x 29.47 x 1.29 / 895 line counter

#6-965 ($0.90) / 8.15 x 24.61 x 0.85 / 955-965, calcutta 400, trn100/200g

#6B-965 ($1.00) / 15.24 x 24.30 x 0.93 / 955-965-975, calcutta 400, trn100/200g

#6-975LD ($1.00) / 15.12 x keyed 38.25 x 1.08 / 975 lever drag

#6-5600 ($2.90) / 14.60 x keyed 41.15 x 1.15 / 4600-5600 live liner

#6-7000 ($1.75) / 5.08 x 21.54 x 1.14 / 7000 powergraph

#56-440 ($1.50) / 8.88 x keyed 30.93 / 0.90 / 440 ss

#56-710 ($0.90) / 7.92 x 14.68 x 1.22 / 710z spinfisher

#56-4200 ($1.25) / 8.44 x keyed 26.29 x 0.95 / 4200 ss
 

alantani

Senior Member
[color=#006600]Razeen[/color] wrote:
Alan

 

What is your take on the Grandwave Z the silver reel exaclty the same but has 5 bearing and 1 roller bearing instead of a bush

sometimes, more bearings are just more trouble.  if you scratch that pretty silver coating, you find white underneath.  looks like plastic.  probably nylon.  it's certainly not plastic.  fooled alot of guys, including me.  alan

 

i'm not being very positive, am i .........
 
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