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 Posted: Fri Sep 29th, 2006 05:05 pm
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Casting
Fixed Spool Casting
The first thing to learn about casting a spool reel is how to hold the rod and line at the same time. This usually applies to outfits light enough to hold in one hand. Two hands are definitely required to cast when surf fishing.


The following step-by-step points highlight how to do a proper cast.
  • Pick up the rod and reel and hold with the index finger, the only finger in front of the reel stem.
  • Hang the line on the index finger in front of the reel stem.
  • Open the Bail Arm.
  • Straighten your arm out in front of you and then, while never taking your eyes of the bait, slowly swing the rod around sideways until it is behind you and you are still looking at the bait.
  • With a straight arm, swing the rod over your head for the cast.
There are two important things you must never do when casting with a spinning reel. The first is to close up the forefinger so that you are holding the line against the rod. This finger should just act as a hook with the line running over the ball of the finger as the bait is cast out into the sea. During the casting action, the line will automatically pull itself off the finger at the right moment.
The second thing not to do is to take your eyes off the bait and look towards where you are going to cast. If you swing it straight over your head, it should go where you want it to go. It is more important to keep looking at the bait, so that you don't get caught up with someone else's rod, a tree branch, a small child, or in my case, my wife !!
Overhead Spool Casting
Experienced anglers often lick their lips at the sight of a brand new rod and overhead reel. They take it from you, lay into a cast and send out a beauty of a cast. The rod is then handed back with the only comment being "Nice !" But that's no help to the beginner who'll make a dog's breakfast of it if he tries the same thing.
Many a times have I had a "bird's nest" from not regulating the drag that can be applied to a free spooling reel. A Bird's Nest occurs when the speed of the line thru the eyes of your rod is less than the speed of the line that is spooling off your reel. If your wondering why its called a "Bird's Nest", have a look at it when it occurs, you'll curse yourselves and see the resemblance of a Bird's Nest !
The first and most important step in getting to know your overhead reel is to slow down your new reel from spooling too fast so that you learn "spool control", which is one of the basics required in learning overhead reel casting.
Modern overhead reels have various spool speed controls to assist the beginner. The greatest innovation in this department has been the magnetic braking system. While it does restrict casting distance, it also slows down the spool to a more controllable speed.
If your reel has a centrifugal brake, you should fit the largest set of brake blocks and wipe any oil from the circular rim of the brake system. Brake blocks work with greater efficiency when they are dry. Wipe all surplus oil from inside the reel while you have it apart. Be wary, when oiling, most beginners tend to over oil. All you need is one or two drops in each bearing.
When spooling on new line onto your reel for your first casting efforts, forget the usual advice about filling the spool almost to the rim. This might be okay for an experienced caster, but it can cause heaps of trouble for the beginner. Most new casters do better in the initial learning stages with a spool filled to about 80% capacity.
To practice, don't bother with rigs, hooks or bait for your first casting efforts. A sinker of a suitable weight for your outfit is all you need. The beginner caster should now be prepared to put a moderate effort into the casting action that will give casts in the 60 - 70m range. This is definitely a period where great self control is required. The caster must concentrate on spool control at all times and resist the temptation to cast long distances.
While practicing, keep in mind that you should not even attempt to cast from rocks till you have reached a safe, comfortable and confident level in using your overhead reel. A quiet spot on the beach is a much better place to get started, or if you have 5 acres of land like I do, you can enjoy the comforts of practicing your casts from the back door of your home !!
At this stage, the beginner will find that with many reels, light thumb pressure is needed to control the spool during the cast. Small, compact baits such as beach worms are easier to cast than large fish bait which cause problems due to the increased air resistance offered by the bait shape.
One should also note that with overhead reels come overhead rods. The advantage of an overhead rod is the increased number of eyes that these rods have, in allowing the line to pass thru the eyes more quickly and efficiently, hence increasing the range in casting distances that overheads have to offer. In standard rods, the line tends to "bounce and wave" from eye to eye as it is spooled off the reel. By having more eyes on your rod, this reduces the friction and "bounce" of the line against the eyes.
Should a backlash occur, don't worry ! They are a fact of life and even the experienced caster contends with them on infrequent occasions.

GOOD LUCK and Tight lines.

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 Posted: Fri Sep 29th, 2006 06:04 pm
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Thank you red eye...

that was an excellent write up on casting techniques to help the beginner angler...i am sure if we all had a good write up like that when we learnt how to cast it would have saved us tons off frustration an combing out our birds nest on our reels..not to mention the amount off line we would have saved.. Lol!
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 Posted: Wed Oct 4th, 2006 10:49 am
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hi

just to say thanks this is a great write up keep up the good work .

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 Posted: Tue Nov 7th, 2006 02:18 pm
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best advice,dont try too hard, and dont put too much force, try to cast the few times while looking at teh reel. once you see it fluffing you apply presure and release. this is how you will learn, the slowly look at where u throwing the sionker , and thgen look for distance.Very goo explanantion red eye.

Any one do side casts

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 Posted: Tue Nov 7th, 2006 06:17 pm
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I tried the side cast once, fluffed up my line, burnt my thumb and decided it was not a good Idea.

I know a guy Ivan Stepforth who uses the Side cast and boy does he get distance.

I think I am going to attend one of his casting clinics and see if I can learn the side cast.

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 Posted: Tue Nov 7th, 2006 10:09 pm
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Jus a bit off information about ivan stopforth..he is an ex casting champion an one off the few people to consistently cast over 160m without error..he makes it look so easy..especially with a scarboroah..i unfortunately haven't attended his casting clinic as yet..but i will as soon as i can! Its well worth it!

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 Posted: Wed Nov 8th, 2006 10:39 am
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Hi, where is he from,where does he hold his clinics, cost etc

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Ivan Stopforth - holds His fishing clinics at kingfisher in Durban and its free.

The fishing clinic is on Saturday (1st week of the month) and the casting clinic on sunday morning at blue lagoon  near the model yacht pond.

He also holds an advanced fishing clinic for which he charges a small fee.

Phone Kingfisher for more info.

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 Posted: Wed Nov 8th, 2006 10:56 am
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Thanks

KHani , will try it. we never stop learning

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WOW...160m cast:shock:

Blade when and if you attend please give me a shout. I will love to learn what this guy knows

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Nivi, WOW is right, but 160 m is still a conservative estimate.

When I attended his clinic he was demonstrating his side cast, and he had cast about 4-5 times before we (about 20 guys) were even able to see the sinker traveling. then he was estimating his distance to be  in excess of 175 m and to get that distance he said his reel was doing about 15 000 revolutions a mintue.

By the way he was using a Daiwa sl30.

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Hi did you go for the free clinic or paid one. i called them and they said theres nothing untill ja 07. if theres intersted guys maybe a couple of us can get to gether and ask hip to do a paid clinic soon.

Im in

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WOW WOW WOW..175m is really far.actually its about 55m short of the average backline. Also those sl30's are notorious for casting great distances. I am defn attending his next clinic

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what say we pay and ask him todo a clinic for just a few gus whose interested,

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Blade,im in:D

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Who knows him or have been to his clinics that can help us arrnge this, HELP

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I attended both the free and the advanced clinics.

I felt that I realy benefited from his advanced clinic but My then again my rock and surf fishing knowledge was not that extensive anyway.

You guys on this site are pretty Knowledgable so i don't know beneficial it will be to you all, but give it bash anyway, after all it is to do with fishing and there are a couple of neat tricks that you'll learn.

I attended the advanced clinic in the beginning of the  year and the cost then was R300.00 for about 3 hours.

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Blade , firstly I think you guys need get a confirmed group of guys who want to attend, once the numbers are confirmed I can try and arrange something with him or put you'll in contact with him.

He normally consults at kingfisher about 2 or 3 times a week.

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Was that R300 per person. Is the clinics for advanced casting or does he teach how to cast, stand, controll the spool etc. THanks

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