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Simen



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Got feedback from Berkley ( Fireline )UK. Will have full report by tomorrow. Sufix no answer on questions but forwarding the mail to their MD as we speak. The problem with Kingfisher braid is that it gets marketed under a name and I dont have the manufacturer. If anyone knows let me know.
Read this sent by Berkley

FireLine

The following are some tips and ideas to help answer questions on FireLine.

Fire Line Facts: FireLine is a thermal filament fishing line, NOT a mono and NOT a braid. It is made from MICRO Dyneema, the world’s strongest fiber. It is a lot of small fibers bonded together to deliver the best HIGH PERFORMANCE LINE ever developed!

Its smaller diameter per pound test compared to mono allows for the angler to use a more powerful presentation without giving up the features and benefits of a small line. It is not a replacement for mono in all-fishing situations.

FireLine delivers longer and more controllable casts than mono or braids of the same pound test. Since it has very low sustained memory it comes off the reel faster and with less friction giving better casting distance. The smaller diameter is not affected by the wind as much, thus giving the angler better control of the lure and improving its accuracy.

The small diameter of FireLine gives lures better diving depth and also improves the actions of most lures. For live bait it makes for a more natural presentation. The added sensitivity allows the angler to feel the softest pick-up.

As your experience with FireLine increases and you understand the compromise between stretch and sensitivity, you will be able to fish FireLine in more and more situations. Think of FireLine as an ultra high performance sports car and you will understand why high performance is a product of compromises; the sports car goes fast, corners hard, but can’t carry six people and the groceries, so you have compromised. FireLine is a product for ultra high performance fishing. It offers the ultimate in long casting distances, sensitivity and thin diameter, but doesn’t provide the shock resistance that a monofilament does. The low stretch of FireLine means solid hook sets at any distance. You don’t have to rear back and “cross their eyes.” As they say down south, “just a solid pull will drive the hook home!”

Reels:
CASTING: The best FireLine for casting is the 14 lb. test and up. Even with 14 lb. or larger the small diameter should be taken into consideration when adjusting the reel and choosing a lure. A good way to start out with FireLine is to increase your spool tension or magnet control. This will slow down the line coming off the reel. You will find that FireLine comes off faster and smoother than mono or braids and will deliver increased distance even with more spool tension. If the spool is too loose you will have some over runs that can snap lures off very quickly in the casting motion. It is not necessary to cast harder to get more distance. In fact, a smooth casting motion will deliver the best distance.

SPINNING REELS: All pound tests of FireLine work well on spinning reels; with 6, 10 and 14 being the best. The line lies on the reels very well yet comes off quickly in a cast to give added distance.

SPINCAST REELS (CLOSED FACE REELS): FireLine WILL NOT WORK well on spincast reels.

Choose the right line: Match the FireLine line diameter (not pound strength) to the equivalent Mono line diameter that you normally use (Example: 8 lb. mono = 8/20 FireLine). Be sure to spool your line as tight and uniform as possible.

Attaching FireLine to your reel: Since FireLine has almost no stretch it must be tied as well as taped to the reel arbor to prevent slippage. The Berkley tape tab on the end of your FireLine fits this need very well. Simply tie FireLine onto the arbor of your reel and place the tape tab over it. Another way would be to use a mono backing since FireLine’s small diameter makes it hard to fill most reels with a 125 yard spool. You may want o use a blood knot or a nail knot to attach the FireLine to monofilament.
When spooling your reel, the line needs to be put on tightly to prevent the line from “digging in” to the other layers.

Knots to use: FireLine works with regular fishing knots. The best and recommended knot is the Palomar, which delivers 100% of rated strength when used with FireLine. Knots that rely on wraps for strength, such as the Trilene knot, need to have at least six wraps to avoid slippage and leave ½ to ¾ inch tag end.

Rod recommendation: Since FireLine has low stretch you can use a softer action rod that is easier and more fun to cast and use. You no longer need a real heavy rod to deliver the power to your hands. The power is in the line! Rods with more flex will fight the fish more effectively and wear them down. When the fish gets close to the boat it is important to have your drag adjusted to allow for big fish to take the line.

What to Expect: As you use FireLine the color will fade to a smoke gray, this is normal. Micro Dyneema does not absorb dye; you can use a permanent black magic marker to color the line (make sure to let it dry!). You will also notice some fuzz along the line; this is also normal. However, if you see a strain down by the knot, cut off 5 – 10 feet of FireLine and retie (if you have the time I reel it on to another reel with the old end on the inside.) If you see a strain down in your reel or along the line check your equipment over very well. The small diameter of FireLine allows it to find a cracked eye or worn line guide on your reel much faster that mono,

One of the strongest things that can be said for FireLine is that it is fun to fish. The sensitivity that it brings to the angler is much better than any line before it. Many use it just for the sensitivity. You feel every thing from a small minnow swimming on your hook, to being able to identify the bottom content from the jig dragging across it. You will now notice how a small fish attacking your bait comes to life.
FireLine is faster than mono on the cast and in the water, as well as more powerful than the super braids. It is unquestionably the strongest, thinnest fishing line made!


ADDITIONAL INFO THAT MAY BE HELPFUL:

Perhaps the most important thing is to use superline in a diameter that is similar to the mono line you would use for the same application. For example, using 50 lb. braid (that has 12 lb. diameter) when you would normally use 12 lb. mono. Superlines and braids need to be put on the reel tightly. This keeps the line from 'digging in' to the layers as you fish. For lures use a Palomar knot.
When using a superline or braid on a bait casting /level wind reel, it is also helpful to back your reel with monofilament.
For putting on mono backing use the uni to uni knot or a blood knot. The reason you want to use mono backing is that super lines have a tendency to slip around your spool. This slipping can cause the line to not go on tight enough, this then causes the line to 'dig in' when you set the hook or get a snag. Then the next time you cast out you lose your lure in mid cast or get backlash and a big mess. It also causes your reel to feel as though your drag is not working. All you need is enough mono line to cover the arbor of your reel. We suggest staying, as close to the diameter of the superline or braid as possible, you will get a better knot this way. Many people put more backing on the reel to raise their super line up to get the best casting results.