Whant to change my 0.5 dia mono on my Shimano Trin

Robin Hood

New member
Whant to change my 0.5 dia mono on my Shimano Trinidad 30 to one of the following casting braids 48 lbs Gator braid, 50 lbs Tuffline XP, 50 lbs EZ Spiderwire or a braid that is tested and worked.

Need the following advice from experienced anglers that have made this change on shimano size 30 and Daiwa size 50 reels:

1) What braid is better or tested and did not work? 2) Did you experience any  problems where the braid pull into the braid underneath on the reel especialy when casting? 3) Do the braid wind up tight enough when only a 7 oz sinker is pulled in. 4) what average casting distances do you achieve with what dia braid? 5) Do you have any scars from injuries due to the braid on the multilpier? 6) Will you change back to mono or did you change back to mono?
 

Koper

Senior Member
Simen will be the man to answer your questions.  He uses only braid on his Trini 30 and have great success with eds.

I know he only uses Fireline (have switch over myself to Fireline), the 0.36mm/30lbs one.  A second close that he swears by is the Kingfisher Bonded Casting Braid.

I know of a couple of guys that use Spiderwire as well, haven't tested it myself.

Check this thread of Simen:

http://www.sealine.co.za/view_topic.php?id=50871&forum_id=77
 

Simen

Sealiner
Robin Hood wrote:
Whant to change my 0.5 dia mono on my Shimano Trinidad 30 to one of the following casting braids 48 lbs Gator braid, 50 lbs Tuffline XP, 50 lbs EZ Spiderwire or a braid that is tested and worked.

Need the following advice from experienced anglers that have made this change on shimano size 30 and Daiwa size 50 reels:

1) What braid is better or tested and did not work? 2) Did you experience any  problems where the braid pull into the braid underneath on the reel especialy when casting? 3) Do the braid wind up tight enough when only a 7 oz sinker is pulled in. 4) what average casting distances do you achieve with what dia braid? 5) Do you have any scars from injuries due to the braid on the multilpier? 6) Will you change back to mono or did you change back to mono?



I am a firm believer is Fireline, it is just far more  superior in quality than any other braid I have tried.

Also having to add it is also more expensive than any other braid.

Whiplash will be my second choice.

The biggest problem concerning using braid as mainline are all the myths around it.

Braid is a line just like any other line, apply the same principals you would to mono and you wont have any problems.

Sure it takes a while to get used to, dont think you are going to now spool your reel with braid and cast 50m further with the first cast.

get the feel for it, you might have to adjust your spool tension a bit, use a different leader knot

Nothing major.

Will it spool tight enough, Same principal applies as with mono, it depends on you when you reel how you are going to spool the line

Spool mono bad, spool braid bad, same result, BIG OVERWIND.

Myself and the wife have been using this since early 90's. Not once has a finger been cut or looped during casting, you cut your fingers more when making knots.

How far do you cast? -- Dont know, but my bait lands where the other guys baits land.

Will I change back to mono-- NEVER

( note not using braid for catching in eds)

All my reels filled with braid except the Saltist 50 (used for sharks)(top right)


 
 

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wingz

New member
Considering wanting to use braid backing on my penn 545 and load about 150m of .50 suffix on top but haven't chosen a braid asof yet which diameter should I be looking at?
 

Simen

Sealiner
wingz wrote:
Considering wanting to use braid backing on my penn 545 and load about 150m of .50 suffix on top but haven't chosen a braid asof yet which diameter should I be looking at?

Choosing backing is easier than choosing a casting braid. See what fits your pocket using one of the better known brands

 I would suggest go for a 50lbs backing (.38/.40mm dia).

 
 

subaruseun

Sealiner
Simen wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:
Whant to change my 0.5 dia mono on my Shimano Trinidad 30 to one of the following casting braids 48 lbs Gator braid, 50 lbs Tuffline XP, 50 lbs EZ Spiderwire or a braid that is tested and worked.

Need the following advice from experienced anglers that have made this change on shimano size 30 and Daiwa size 50 reels:

1) What braid is better or tested and did not work? 2) Did you experience any  problems where the braid pull into the braid underneath on the reel especialy when casting? 3) Do the braid wind up tight enough when only a 7 oz sinker is pulled in. 4) what average casting distances do you achieve with what dia braid? 5) Do you have any scars from injuries due to the braid on the multilpier? 6) Will you change back to mono or did you change back to mono?



I am a firm believer is Fireline, it is just far more  superior in quality than any other braid I have tried.

Also having to add it is also more expensive than any other braid.

Whiplash will be my second choice.

The biggest problem concerning using braid as mainline are all the myths around it.

Braid is a line just like any other line, apply the same principals you would to mono and you wont have any problems.

Sure it takes a while to get used to, dont think you are going to now spool your reel with braid and cast 50m further with the first cast.

get the feel for it, you might have to adjust your spool tension a bit, use a different leader knot

Nothing major.

Will it spool tight enough, Same principal applies as with mono, it depends on you when you reel how you are going to spool the line

Spool mono bad, spool braid bad, same result, BIG OVERWIND.

Myself and the wife have been using this since early 90's. Not once has a finger been cut or looped during casting, you cut your fingers more when making knots.

How far do you cast? -- Dont know, but my bait lands where the other guys baits land.

Will I change back to mono-- NEVER

( note not using braid for catching in eds)

All my reels filled with braid except the Saltist 50 (used for sharks)(top right)


 


Simen... that is a serious amount of reels... i showed my wife and now i feel much better as i only have 11.
 

Simen

Sealiner
:SSSShould have told her that's the amount you need and get the chance to add a couple:SSS

 

Your rod should be on the way shortly
 

previn

Member
I have a habit of slowing down and stopping my spool on the line instead of the shoulder, is it any different when using braid with regards to burn on the fingers ?
 

Koper

Senior Member
previn wrote:
I have a habit of slowing down and stopping my spool on the line instead of the shoulder, is it any different when using braid with regards to burn on the fingers ?
Nope, just do the same as with mono, wet your line if casting a "dry" spool.

@Simen - Time to update that pic with the new additions to the family;)
 

BTTB

Senior Member
subaruseun wrote:
Simen... that is a serious amount of reels... i showed my wife and now i feel much better as i only have 11.
Tell your wife it is like shoes. Most woman have more shoes than they could ever use or need, stacked in boxes under the bed and in cupboards.
Just draw the parallel for her, then she will understand. :p
 

Koper

Senior Member
BTTB wrote:
subaruseun wrote:
Simen... that is a serious amount of reels... i showed my wife and now i feel much better as i only have 11.
Tell your wife it is like shoes. Most woman have more shoes than they could ever use or need, stacked in boxes under the bed and in cupboards.
Just draw the parallel for her, then she will understand. :p
Ha ha - Classic!
 

foot soldier

New member
powerpro has been the best for me on all of my overheads for surfcasting,,saltist20 with 30 lb,,saltist30h with 40lb,,trinidad16 with 50lb,,saltiga50 with 65 or 80lb
 

Spotted Grunter

New member
Hi

Sorry to bring up an old thread.

I would like to load a saltist bg30 with fireline. will be used maily for scratching.

Would it better to go with the 20lb (0.30mm) or 30lb (0.38).

Thanks
 

Simen

Sealiner
Enigma, I have had the J Brown braid on one of my reels for literally a couple of years now, and it has stood the test of time.

An excellent braid to say the least, has never let me down, knots great, and like every other line you have to trim back the end every now and then by a meter or so.

My J brown is now still good enough to be moved over to a backing on one of the other reels.

Apart from being very good quality, the price is excellent
 

aquadementia

Sealiner
Spotted Grunter - I agree with Armand, but just remember and keep in mind that original fireline specifically is waaaaaay stroonger than the stated lb rating. As an example, I fish 14lb on my stradic 5000 and it has a breaking strength of 40lb. i've heard of 80kg guys lifting themselves off the ground with '80'LB fireline
 

flippy

Sealiner
official specs for a trini 30a is 1015 yards 50lb braid.. thats like 928 meters so if its anything similar to a gold trini then thats about the amount :shock:
 
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