I bought a 16 foot graphite rod a while back at a

[rjthebig]

I bought a 16 foot graphite rod a while back at a garage sale and had it redone. As I am 6 foot 5 inches and quite strong I found that my casting improved with at least 40 meters using the pendulum cast, which is the only way I cast now. It seems to me that size does matter if you can comfortably handle this length of rod.

I have tried for two weeks now to get the same distance with my 14 foot rods but to no avail. Can anyone tell me where I can find more rods of this length as I know this was specifically made for a guy about 10 years ago. All I had done to the rod was to revamp the outside and to have a solid shaft placed in the butt to counter act the strain of the cast.

Any suggestions who still makes such rods?

 

[kopstamp]

yip Enigma builds just about anything! will be interesting to see how they make a 16ft rod!let us know if you came right with it so we can see the pics..

 

[rjthebig]

Thanks kopstamp. I have tried to google enigma but to no avail. As I am in Cape Town I have never heard of them - any chance you will have some more info for me on them.

 

[lloydfox]

Enigma is a buddy on sealine.....

 

[Moyeni]

do you get a "back-up" driver to assist you for the adnormal load.....lol

Is it a 1pce?

 

[Fluffy]

I am 6'6",120kg.I have a 15'3" HMG stroke 8.and i can cast any bait with it.can cast 4-12 ounce with it.and in no way does it negate my casting at all.love it.have casted whole shad of 40cm with 9ounce with it before(definatly atleast 100).If i can remember corectly i was casting a whole yellowtail(50 -55cm)and 6ounce with it aswell.(about 70m[with penn 114h])

if i where to have an ultimate meduim bait casting rod i would like a slim stroke 7 15'6" rod.Would cast 10 ounce(bait+sinker) with it.

would like to see the purglass in slim.THAT would be awesum.

 

[kopstamp]

sent you a pm with his details rjthebig

 

[Ben REINERS]

Afernoon Fluffy,

SEALINE IS THE PLACE TO BE FOR INFO - SEALINE ROCKS

I have been so-long looking for info on 15ft rods that I almost gave it up - & what do u know ? Answer = SEALINE - TECHNOLOGY - Gr8 to have it around.

I hve sent a PM to rjthebig wrt his rod, cause the guys I have spoken to at tackle shops /rod builders , believe in 14ft or tell u tales that does not exist.

I have seen many 15 to 16 ft's around being used by anglers , but when u make enq's from tackle shops all u get is negative responses about not increasing the distance , the short term life span it has etc etc.

Mistake I made was to not ask the anglers then when I saw the rods , where they got them from

Tell us more about yr rod , where did u buy it  , and details pse ?

Regards Ben REINERS

 

 

[Fluffy]

Ben REINERS wrote:

Afernoon Fluffy,

SEALINE IS THE PLACE TO BE FOR INFO - SEALINE ROCKS

I have been so-long looking for info on 15ft rods that I almost gave it up - & what do u know ? Answer = SEALINE - TECHNOLOGY - Gr8 to have it around.

I hve sent a PM to rjthebig wrt his rod, cause the guys I have spoken to at tackle shops /rod builders , believe in 14ft or tell u tales that does not exist.

I have seen many 15 to 16 ft's around being used by anglers , but when u make enq's from tackle shops all u get is negative responses about not increasing the distance , the short term life span it has etc etc.

Mistake I made was to not ask the anglers then when I saw the rods , where they got them from

Tell us more about yr rod , where did u buy it  , and details pse ?

Regards Ben REINERS

 

what do you want to target???

 

[Fluffy]

The number one person on this site to contact would be Enigma for info

15'3" stroke8 HMG 1 piece custom build
titanium eyes
no trigger winch
no flip up guide

En SY is 'n bees van 'n stok. Love my baby although i was going to sell her at a give away price here on sealine in the beginning of the year,since our relationship went through a phase,me not giving her enough attention...my one true love....

 

[rjthebig]

Hell guys your info is incredible - I have done a bit of research and if my contacts serve me correctly then Fishing for Africa made a 16 foot rod not too long ago. I have also spoken to the guy that makes up my rods and he will come with a plan to make 16 foot rods if there is enough orders. What basically happens - and once again I must confess I am no rod builder - is that the butt gets extended. To counter act the force used to cast they place a hollow but thick walled insert into the handle through out the entire length of the butt to strengthen it.

Can someone please tell me why rod builders has stuck themselves on this notion that 14 foot is the ultimate when I see guys outcast the normal 14 rods by far when getting there hands on a 15 to 16 footer.  It is essential that the mindset around this phenomenon is broken as 16 foot rods were used alot a few years ago but now have disappeared. I know it has alot to do with the graphite blanks being a certain length but surely if I and so many others have proven that 1 to 2 foot longer is better then why not grasp the market for these rods and make a killing?

I will post photos of the rod tomorrow!

 

[Feesh]

15' to 15'3 is common in PE, Speak to Errol Holmes

 

[Enigma]

Hi, Google found me on Sealine.

The longest single section rod available is a 4m rod and the current longest multi pieces are 14'6'

We do build a lot of 16' rods, more so in the light/medium tackle range as it is a fact that longer rods cast further, they are more difficult to handle and are not ideal for fighting a fish. (The longest I have built is an 18' 4-6oz rod)

Instead of the short butt used for our normal rods we insert a 60cm super rigid section into the blank and seat an extension over this extending the rod all the way down. The exact build is determined by the type of blank used.

Blue Marlin will be launching the ELS in October. It is a system whereby the rod can be extended for the cast and then shortened for fishing (ie longer handle for grinder casting) or move the reel seat away, increasing the total rod length for casting).

1 piece Blue Marlin TFlex or T53 is great for this.

Purglas slimline with mix of Toray and T30 will be great for Medium stich but not for sharks. 400/5B with extension can work either as 1 piece or 3 or 4 piece in multi section.

 

[Ben REINERS]

Eve Fluffy ,

My main aim is to target heavies on the non-edible side , casting large baits without non return bait clips , obtaining distance , throwing heavy wooden plugs at Kosi for GT's to down south on the Zululand coast. 

The long rod wrt distance casting will cancel out the use of non-return clips in certain circumstances of using type of bait.

At times the shore allows one to wade only so-far , then you have to cast to your sighted spot , so why wade all the way if you can cast the distance ?  

Regards Ben

 

 

[Ben REINERS]

Hey FEESH,

Is Errol same person as ENIGMA and or is he a fellow SEALINER ?

Greetings Ben

 

[Enigma]

Hi Ben, check post 13.

I'm Craig Neil aka Enigma and Errol is Errol Holmes rod builder of distinction from PE

 

[Ben REINERS]

Afternoon Craig ,

Thks for clarity.

Will be in contact with u shortly.

Do u know if Errol is a SEALINER and or contact details - sounds to me there's no much diff in both of yrs rod building ?

 

Cheers Ben

 

[kopstamp]

errol is not a sealine member. go look under diy section
http://www.sealine.co.za/view_topic.php?id=44959&forum_id=72

this is just some of the rods enigma does...
It is more a matter of choice as to who you use both build quality rods,but for speed and great quality one cannot go wrong with Graig.

 

[Fluffy]

Ben REINERS wrote:

Eve Fluffy ,

My main aim is to target heavies on the non-edible side , casting large baits without non return bait clips , obtaining distance , throwing heavy wooden plugs at Kosi for GT's to down south on the Zululand coast. 

The long rod wrt distance casting will cancel out the use of non-return clips in certain circumstances of using type of bait.

At times the shore allows one to wade only so-far , then you have to cast to your sighted spot , so why wade all the way if you can cast the distance ?  

Regards Ben

 

 

ok with a 15.3 would be more then perfect.i know theres alot of places in kzn or close where the guys prefer to fish with the shorter rods because of lack of space.so i have read.keep that in mind.but let me tell you a stiff stroke 8 at 15'3 is flippen nice.just make sure you mention that you want to be able to cast 1kg of baits out.sometimes more. sh!t this rod of mine is lekka to cast.and it does bend some.i optioned for the 1 piece so the rod bends evenly. 1 and a half feet isnt alot of extra for a rod.standing a long day fighting the fish you can feel it.but damn i can feel it from the start on a big shark.whats the extra length gona matter.

but one thing.if you are planning to cast big baits you must have the strength for it since that extra 18 inches makes  a lekka differnece in casting.the bait will feel even heavier.but when you get it up to speed its sweet satisfaction....

 

[Fluffy]

Fluffy wrote:

Ben REINERS wrote:

Eve Fluffy ,

My main aim is to target heavies on the non-edible side , casting large baits without non return bait clips , obtaining distance , throwing heavy wooden plugs at Kosi for GT's to down south on the Zululand coast. 

The long rod wrt distance casting will cancel out the use of non-return clips in certain circumstances of using type of bait.

At times the shore allows one to wade only so-far , then you have to cast to your sighted spot , so why wade all the way if you can cast the distance ?  

Regards Ben

 

 

ok with a 15.3 would be more then perfect.i know theres alot of places in kzn or close where the guys prefer to fish with the shorter rods because of lack of space.so i have read.keep that in mind.but let me tell you a stiff stroke 8 at 15'3 is flippen nice.just make sure you mention that you want to be able to cast 1kg of baits out.sometimes more. sh!t this rod of mine is lekka to cast.and it does bend some.i optioned for the 1 piece so the rod bends evenly. 1 and a half feet isnt alot of extra for a rod.standing a long day fighting the fish you can feel it.but damn i can feel it from the start on a big shark.whats the extra length gona matter.

but one thing.if you are planning to cast big baits you must have the strength for it since that extra 18 inches makes  a lekka differnece in casting.the bait will feel even heavier.but when you get it up to speed its sweet satisfaction....

i think the longer rods fight better of the bricks.since you have that extra length you can realy pull the fish sideways etc.

easy maths......weak oak with small rod <> strong oak with bigger rod

weak oak with big rod <> strong oak with an even bigger rod.

small hands small reel <> big hands big reel

small hands big reel <> big hands even bigger reel......

1.5 guy with 1 17' rod = 2m guy with 21' rod

1.5m guy with a 14' rod = 2m guy with a 17.5'rod

 

WHY NOT,simple physics?depends on the strength you can handle etc. (ASSUMING EQUAL TECHNIQUE)

am i in trouble again.