Hi guys i am new to this and would like to make so

Andre Laas

Sealiner
I have also been playing with silicon moulds for a while and have had the same problems with MM30. Some time ago the guy at our local AMT sold me a high temp silicone (the brand name was wacker) that I guess is similar to MM60. It worked quite well, but as far as I know they do not sell the wacker silicones anymore.

To form my mould boxes, I purchased a Lego building pad and some Lego blocks, and it works like a charm as you can change the dimensions and depth of your mould to your heart’s content. I modified some blocks by grinding and sanding off the little buttons on top so that you get a smooth surface.  I first build a little starter box of a single layer of smooth blocks (depending of the size of the object), and then over-fill this box with toolmakers clay (also from AMT). From here I use a flat blade to cut off the excess clay (this is where the smoothed blocks helps a lot) so that you end up with a smooth block of clay into which you can imbed the object. After imbedding the object, I again cut off all clay that has been displaced by the volume of the object. Now it is a case of replacing the smooth blocks with regular blocks and then building up the box to the desired height. Now you can pour and cure your first half, and then basically build a new box around the first half to make your second pour.  

Something that made quite a bit of a difference to the quality of my castings was to vibrate the silicon in the mixing container before pouring, and then vibrating the mould after pouring. For this I used a handheld massager that I purchased from the SPCA shop. This helps removing air bubbles or at least move them away from the casting surface. (Vibrating Plaster of Paris castings also helps quite a bit)

I have read somewhere that it helps reduce bubbles if you pour your silicon slooooowly from pretty high above your mould and in one corner so that you get a thin stream of silicone that spreads out over the object as the mould cavity fills up. I have been doing it this way, and it seems to help a bit.
I am not sure of it is necessary for lead and tin casting, but after curing my mould for a day at room temperature, I post- cure it in a little oven at about 50-60deg Celsius for 3-5 hours. This is usually done to make sure all volatiles that could interfere with some resins are removed (…that’s what I read on the data sheet)
Finally, I dust my moulds with baby powder (talcum) before every cast, and I have found that it makes a difference in the longevity of my moulds.
 

Fanie

Sealiner
Something that made quite a bit of a difference to the quality of my castings was to vibrate the silicon in the mixing container before pouring, and then vibrating the mould after pouring.
It will make a difference if you vibrate, but using a vacuum pump seriously draws the air out. When you switch the vacuum pump on it looks like the whole mixture starts boiling and foaming up, then sags back as the air bubbles burst. You cannot imagine there is so much air in the mix, even if you stir carefully.

I haven't tried a vacuum cleaner, and never measured the amount of vacuum you can draw from it, the pumps I have I use for vacuming fiberglass and they get fairly close to 0 atmosphere. These pumps are called vein pumps, they are not scarce and could be less expensive than piston vacuum pumps. The pawn shops may even have some lying around.
 
One of the best ways to reduce bubbles is to add silicone thinners. You can add up to 10% thinners but not more. To be safe I generally only add 8% but I ALWAYS thin it. This makes it run better and allows the air to escape much easier.
 

Agterbaaier

New member
Bennie dis reg ek hoor ñ cnc mould is duur maar ek dink daaraan om dit te maak om te verkoop. Ek het bietjie navorsing gedoen en reken sal genoeg verkoop kry om spoedig vir die mould te betaal . Kan sekerlik n 1000 lures uit die mould kry?
Ek sal verseker van die mouldmax gebruik om van die lures te maak wat nie so gewild is nie.
 

oomfaan

Senior Member
benniejordaan wrote:
Making spoons is a real PITA! After casting, sanding then polishing.... Rather you than me!
It's true, it is nogal hard work to get the spoon to look good, but worth the effort once you hook into a good fish like this yellow tail I caught off Rob's boat on a home made spinner.You can even see the smile past the rod.
 

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Eastwood

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I am planning to make my own lures( hard plastic and wooden) but have come to a dead end. I want to use Stainless steel eyelets for the hooks and line attachment. BUT, where to purchase it in South Africa. According to those who know (utube) the diameter should be 0,8 to 1.2 mm. Can anybody help? Thanks.
 

Limpopoking

Sealiner
When you say eyelets, I trust you're referring to wire all the way through the lure body and not the little screw in things that will get yanked out from the lure body by the first fish of any substance... if so, 2 good sources of wire are the electric fence installers and guys who weld S.Steel. I have used both to good effect.
 

Eastwood

New member
You are right, I do not trust the screw in thingies.
I need the wire through the lure! I will try your suggestions! Thanks for your response.
 
Buy 1.2mm stainless steel wire from companies that do electric fences like Stafix.


EDIT: Oops, see Limpopoking already made the same suggestion.
 
What TW said. The SS filler rods are nice to work with or go to any welding/manufacturing company and ask for some 0,8mm and 1,2mm mig welding wire.
 

Eastwood

New member
Thanks a lot. Afrox 35 km from me in Vredenburg. Just discovered an Engineering firm that do MIG welding 10 km. I will visit them all. Stywe lyne.
 
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