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 Posted: Tue Sep 16th, 2008 02:14 pm
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give me feed back, i am able to supply the public with unborn chicks and ive used them with succsess, some folks skin them some use them whole,

 

what do you do how do you fish day old chicks?

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 Posted: Tue Sep 16th, 2008 02:56 pm
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Deisil

I stand to be corrected but I have heard that the LTB(light tackle boat) discipline makes use of them during their freshwater pursuits.They pre-bait an area a day before comp with the unborns,and then fish the following day with same.

How they rig them would not need a lot of imagination as I think they get hooked, as is, whole, to the preffered hooksize for barbel.

Transporting them frozen would be a problem for guys not in your area,but I am sure a price per kilo would get a few responses.

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per kilo is difficult but per bird R5, i can work on a per kilo price. ive heard they chum an area the day before on one of those hennie papenfoes dvd,s. apparently it makes for a killer honey spot, if anyone has photies of the rigging, or drawing would be better as im sure its rather gross, please post away, thanx for the reponse kitefisher,

ps they can be transported in a cooler for up to three days with a block of dry ice, but this is targeted at the jhb guys

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yip to prebait the area u need to cut a lot of them up into pieces, add some chicken liver etc and mix with usual mieliebomb ground bait. I've found the best way for any chicks, especially "geelvinkies" is to hook it from the back just under the wings. The biggest catfish i've witnessed being caught was on a half drowned swallow that i fetched out the river. The sinker was still dropping when it took in the vaal river.

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Bird chicks are killer bait. I use to fish a number of Stellenbosch farm dams using Weaver bird chicks (sorry to all the tree huggers)

I fished tight to the reed beds wher the nests were and would virtually flip a baited hook at the base of the reeds and nests. Hookups were immediate. Also used the same tactics on the Liesbeeck (Black River) I would hook the bait anywhere presentable.

As far as ground baiting goes, I have had great sucess with fermented maize and dog food pellets. I use to get the maize pulp from the 'Van Ryns' distilery at Vlottenburg in Stellenbosch. They were always happy to supply a few kilos.

I would prebait an area and fish the next day. Fish after fish no matter what hook bait or even artificial used!

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The smaller catfish in the western cape can NOT leave brown bread alone. I have also caught some of the bigger ones with brown bread dough made with pieces and juice of chicken liver. If there arent crabs about it's a killer for the 2 - 5kg class catfish.

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Martin, Not sure if you know Meerlust and Vlottenburg farms in Stellenbosch? I used to fish these almost every weekend, got to know the owners and fished with the sons a great deal.

Freshwater crabs were also deadly when fishing open water. Barbel were still new to Western Cape waters in those days and these two farms had the best waters. Meerlust is closed to public fishing because joe public left such a mess on the banks, made fires and broke one simple request not to drive along the dam wall!

If you personally go and ask permission, and if you are fortunate looking, you may get a chance to fish a large quarry located on the Meerlust farm. This is my top secret spot in the area. But seeing that I now reside in the Eastern Cape I am happy to share it with Sealine!

From the S/bosch arterial road you cannot see the quarry, but if you come from the N2, pass the entrance to Meerlust, the next turn to the RHS is the service entry road which also leads to the farm workers cottages. Take this turn and continue down just before the cottages where you take another right turn onto a dirt road for about 300 meters. You will see the structure of the quarry on the RHS. There is a small entrance to the only bank access cut out of steep sided rock. This will take you to an amazing spot.

Anything goes, but the spot has many snags in the form of rock ledges and submurged trees. Barbel like railway sleepers are plenty and are thrown in with a good number of bass.

Make the effort it is well worth it!

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ill be honest in jhb theres absoultey bugger all eating crabs except yellow fish

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Trophy these quarries in the cape are gems. Ive been fishing one at winefarm where the water is crystal clear. The one side is flat with a slow dip and sandy bottom. I cast my carp rods here. If u sit dead still u actually see the carp coming onto the sand flat to feed and once i actually wathed as it started feeding on the groundbait and then took my line!! Oh and yes carp do move in schools. There are also nice bass in the dam. Then oneday the chap there said have i seen the catfish. I said no. While casting my little mepps spinner, i suddenly saw a piece of the bottom start to move and it was one of these MONSTAS.... but they always spot me. Caught them up to 10kg on bass heads under a 500ml coke bottle for a float, but the rocks are razor sharp, if it goes down ur line is off...

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Sh!t is my secret out...........are you talking about the quarry in Meerlust - Stellenbosch?

or..

The ones in Durbanville TygerValley, and Tierberg Quarry Parow North?

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Nah i got invited to the one at hillcrest estate on the back road between durbanville and blouberg, past nitida and bloemendal. They want to stock trout but want to try and get the number of bass and catfish and carp down 1st. and there is A LOT of bass in that dam.

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Sardines/Ox heart/ Liver are also excellt Barbel baits anything that is fatty and oily works well too - I think this is one of the reasons why day-olds works so well

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Definately, Also remember what Milchner(the German-bloke) said,Use Calamari,some hours in the sun ,until they smell very hard,.Obviously it doesnt have to be export quality and there 's a new use for leftover chokka after Saltwater trips.Must give that one a try.,lol

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Yip Sardines also work well! I did on a number of occasions stop off in Stellenbosch onroute home from a saltwater fishing trip to the Strand area. Here I would simply used my sea tackle, sardine bait and catch plenty of barbel.

It was always a sure bet of catching if I had a blank in the surf!

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got my first 100 in, m ost are still in the egg and have died while trying to hatch, so no cruelty at all , they frozen in the juice of the egg , so good pm if you need

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Trophy wrote: Yip Sardines also work well! I did on a number of occasions stop off in Stellenbosch onroute home from a saltwater fishing trip to the Strand area. Here I would simply used my sea tackle, sardine bait and catch plenty of barbel.

It was always a sure bet of catching if I had a blank in the surf!


HI Trophy

Did you make a proper sard-bait,bloody with cotton etc ,or just use them whole.

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Hi Trophy.
Which sardines do you use?
It is not the Yankee Clippers right?

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another good bait for barbel is a small frog ..... Just try it, you will be amazed

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Ranvir, In case you haven't been welcomed before.WELCOME to the barbel forums,and thanks for input,I agree,:welcomesea:frogs should rate as their no 1 delicacy.Just beware there was a big hoo-haa over using frogs as bait ,as some frog-species wer apparantly also under threat of extinction,More from losing their natural habitat ,than from being exploited as bait,but nonetheless food for thought.

Hope you join in actively on the barbel-forums

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The chicken in the picture is too small. Many chicks die after a few days old and they have a bit of fur on them.

You really don't need the chicken though. I fish lures, and the very best for catching barble is to tie a bunch of fresh chicken feathers around the hook shank of a nice big loodkop.

Splash the hook near the barbel, and they will investigate. The when you see the swirl let it sink a bit. That wet chicken smell in the water and they won't let go.

Similar with carp you catch on loodkop, btw it's the easiest thing to do, rub the loodlop's feathers against another fish so the slime clings on the feathers. The carp smells it and just take the loodkop. Don't tell Ryan ;)

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