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 Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2014 03:09 pm
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Ok from here i take a 5 or 6 inch black plain bass worm and cut a 4 cm long piece out with a sciccors. I slide that on the line with a bait needle and i press a glass rattle into it like this

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Ok from here i take a 5 or 6 inch black plain bass worm and cut a 4 cm long piece out with a sciccors. I slide that on the line with a bait needle and i press a glass rattle into it like this

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 Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2014 03:10 pm
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Drifting can be very exhilarating and I actually prefer this to being anchored. Even Artlure I enjoy more being on the move rather than being anchored. Think me and Krugel must make some time to drift that weekend.

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 Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2014 03:11 pm
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 Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2014 03:15 pm
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Ok the hook l8nk lenght can be shorter. Play till you get the pulls. Crom here i connect a 3 way swivel and another piece of line which goes to my lead. This will ultimatly determine weather your bait is a bottom mid water or even a surface bait. And pay attention to how i connect the lead. This helps so much with snags its amazing. I used to fish i line leads but changed to this

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Ok the hook l8nk lenght can be shorter. Play till you get the pulls. Crom here i connect a 3 way swivel and another piece of line which goes to my lead. This will ultimatly determine weather your bait is a bottom mid water or even a surface bait. And pay attention to how i connect the lead. This helps so much with snags its amazing. I used to fish i line leads but changed to this

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 Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2014 03:17 pm
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This for me has delievered more barbel for me than just about any other method

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 Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2014 03:19 pm
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 Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2014 03:28 pm
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Here is a variation. I use this over featurless bottom because it will have little movement dragging through silt or flat sand. So the elastic creates bounce giving your bait the most amazing action. Pays of often. Also if you snag you only loose a lead which is great because these vmc dynamics are 25 bux a pop

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 Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2014 03:46 pm
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My sinker lines were all longer than normal to just illustrate how it works

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 Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2014 04:48 pm
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Capiez wrote:
Very interesting post.
I'm very surprised that no one has mentioned circle hooks in their bait presentations?
In my opinion it is by far the best hook for barbel.
I don't even have J hooks or any other hook in my barbel box.


Started with J's only , then went to Circles only - now keep both depending on the bait and situation.Quick example, I was fishing just before the onset of winter with circles and the cats were picking the bait up running a meter or 2 and dropping again. The runs were to short to set the circle, changed over to J's and first run we were Vas.

But in general I do prefer fishing with circles for both the fishes sake and better hookups

I leave for the Orange in a few hours , lets hope I can post a few pics of Orange River monsters

Cheers Anthony

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 Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2014 06:00 pm
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Antjar wrote:
Capiez wrote:
Very interesting post.
I'm very surprised that no one has mentioned circle hooks in their bait presentations?
In my opinion it is by far the best hook for barbel.
I don't even have J hooks or any other hook in my barbel box.


Started with J's only , then went to Circles only - now keep both depending on the bait and situation.Quick example, I was fishing just before the onset of winter with circles and the cats were picking the bait up running a meter or 2 and dropping again. The runs were to short to set the circle, changed over to J's and first run we were Vas.

But in general I do prefer fishing with circles for both the fishes sake and better hookups

I leave for the Orange in a few hours , lets hope I can post a few pics of Orange River monsters

Cheers Anthony

Good luck on the Orange.
Was there last month. Got a few monsters on muddy head and a circle hook of course :):)

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 Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2014 06:06 pm
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Deisel, I use an almost identical rig for drifting (minus the bass worm and rattle). It is the most productive method for barbel at Bloemhof. As for J vs Circle hooks, it depends. Circles tend not to snag as much as J-hooks when drifting in the bays, but some days the J-Hooks just seem to produce more fish as the circles don't get enough time in the mouth to set right. One more thing, whilst t anchor nothing beats a live grassie at Bloemhof. Its like catnip to barbel there. Grassie heads are a second, followed by carp heads. Carp and grassie fillets bring up the rear and also work well for drifting. Interested to see how the guys rig up the big carp heads. I have had lots of runs on big carp heads, but battle to get hook set. Great Thread!

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 Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2014 07:50 pm
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2 words for both drifitng with circles and big carp heads. Trailing hooks. Bud do use the elastic rig or the normal pear inline rig. Both above?

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Nice rig Diesel, will give it a bash. Normally i drift with a suspended bait, generally weight under bait and bait half a meter up from the weight. Or just the good old sliding sinker. That rattle is interesting, ive been considering using one for a while, nice to know it grafts. I try drift through transitional zones,where rocky banks change to sand etc. Fish seem to use these as holding areas whebn they are on the move, not always there but worth a drift up and down.

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 Posted: Thu Nov 13th, 2014 11:47 am
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Richard M wrote:
Interested to see how the guys rig up the big carp heads. I hhave had lots of runs on big carp heads, but battle to get hook set. Great Thread!

Check out this link:

http://www.sealine.co.za/view_topic.php?id=90806&forum_id=64&highlight=Hook+placement+vs+hookset

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Hi Guys
 
Ok after reading this and the other post I decided to go and try my luck.
I made these last night and they should be nice and frozen by now.
They are 2kg of chicken liver 1 kg of hearts and 2kg of giblets that was chopped up a bit with a blender there is still allot of nice chunks in there.
I did not want to liquidize it as then it will all just get swept away by the current I want the chunks to stick around for a bit.
I will be fishing close to a bridge on the vaal river.
I will drop 2 tubs close by there is a nice big hole and 2 at casting distance when I get there tomorrow.
I am not targeting monsters just want to catch ALLOT of fish.
I have kept out enough giblets and hearts for bait but will drop a carp head and fillet in-between when I catch a couple.
I will try and remember to take photos of the bait on the hook and hopefully post a pic or 10 of the fish.
 
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 Posted: Thu Nov 13th, 2014 12:18 pm
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Just a suggestion, let's pause a bit with the fish heads and discuss drifting so we can keep all the different bait discussions fairly together.

Why is drifting such an excellent method to out class the Cats? Movement of the bait triggering the sight sense of the Cat? Vibrations triggering the electro reception sense of the Cat? Sent/smell?

What baits is best for drifting?

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 Posted: Thu Nov 13th, 2014 12:36 pm
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Throw in floating foam on your hook with your bait presentation and keep it in place with coast cotton and/or even better put a heat shrink over the foam which you secured with the cotton. With these small baits and a feeding spot your tempo should climb drastically.

Good luck and enjoy.

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If I may ask why float the bait?

I know crabs might be a problem this being the river but I have another plan I will test first and share on Monday?

Plus my trace is about 1M in length if I float it it might be a bit high as my sinker trace will also be long +- 50 cm.

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