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 Posted: Mon Nov 10th, 2014 03:05 pm
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Just before we move on to fish heads I must mention that I have had very good success with 'dop kuikens'. That is chickens that is still in their shells. Can't say what makes it a better bait for me than the actual day olds but, I rate it better than day olds. I also found that leaving the shell as intact (must have at least cracks) as possible lifts up the strikee rate. The egg sack must give off that extra juices and sent associated with it to lure those bad boys closer.

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 Posted: Mon Nov 10th, 2014 03:10 pm
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Where do you get those?

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Where do you get those?

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 Posted: Mon Nov 10th, 2014 04:33 pm
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Agreed, until such a time or there is a forum we can discuss live bait, its best to leave the subject alone. Yellow fish i know people get upset about, but again non endangered, we literally have millions of natal yellow fish. About the same number as tilapia, so im comfortable using a sustainable bait source to fish. If i went out of the province i would not use yellow fish due to the fact they are endangered in certain areas.

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 Posted: Mon Nov 10th, 2014 05:43 pm
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Problem with Yellow fish is they only reach maturity after 7 years, so they struggle to get a good breeding population going in a stretch of water. So big ones MUST go back and not even in a keepnet.

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 Posted: Mon Nov 10th, 2014 05:52 pm
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This is why I suggest one does not mention yellows as it will become another handbag slinging thread...just like the specimen threads!
Yellows are also very susceptible to pollution etc. and often struggle to recuperate.

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 Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2014 02:21 pm
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Ok moving on to fish heads. Before we start discussing the different techniques I think we must just talk about the different fish heads we use and can use and don't use.

Carp head - Yes
Grass Carp head - yes
Muddy head - yes
Kurper/Talapia - not really but can be used as a small bait. I would rather use it as a whole fish bait.
Bass - same as Kurper above.
Catfish heads - don't really rate the head as a good Cat bait.
Sardine heads - had success with it so yes it can be an option.
Yellow fish - no, has legal issues surrounding these species.

Any other I'm missing.

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 Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2014 02:32 pm
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What about yellowTAIL / Bonnie heads ?

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 Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2014 04:36 pm
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What about yellowTAIL / Bonnie heads ?

Stock it will work but catching something at the venue that the cats are used to will be better and cheaper in my opinion. I have used sardines before but have not really had great results so have abandoned that idea completely.
Local is mos lekker! ;)

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 Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2014 09:48 pm
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Skuimkop, I've tried trout head and maasbanker once each. Had takes on both but unfortunately didn't land them. Perhaps my setup wasn't 100% right....?

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 Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2014 10:37 pm
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I tried on salmon heads that I got form fishery close to my work . Did not produce any catch except occasional bites that was dropped. There were frozen and no much blood on them - should probably left them to rot a bit on sun .

That makes me to think that Cod oil  ( earlier mentioned) - one you buy in fishing shops would not attract Cat as good as the blood or oil from muddy head.

Or that may be caused by the fact that Cod oil does not dissolve in water and quickly floats to the surface.

The answer maybe lies in blood instead of oil as ultimate attractor.

I know of liquid (not a soap and without any taste)  which can be mixed with oil which will then dissolve oil in water as in cloud. Maybe worth a try.
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 Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2014 09:40 am
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Maybe they were just not hungry. Ive have caught them well on sardines. Yellowtail fillets and muscle meat. Personaly i believe leaving baits to rot pointless. I think a fish preffers a fresh meal over a rotten one. I stand to be corrected

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 Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2014 11:59 am
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Very interesting post.
I'm very surprised that no one has mentioned circle hooks in their bait presentations?
In my opinion it is by far the best hook for barbel.
I don't even have J hooks or any other hook in my barbel box.

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 Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2014 01:13 pm
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The only time I will make use of rotten baits would be after strong floods. These floods cause a lot of deaths in the animal world. From small right through to big animals. Frogs, Crickets, earthworms, snails, birds even fish to likkewane, sheep, cows etc etc. So what happens when these floods subside? These dead animals start to rot in the sun in the shallows as the water starts to pull back. Easy meal for Mr Whiskers? That is the only time I would use and recommend rotten baits.

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I know a lot of these guys that replied here is actually making use of circle hooks. Maybe just didn't mention it as such. Anyway I will cover circle hooks in the super post when we are finished with these discussions.

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 Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2014 02:27 pm
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Skuimkop wrote:
I know a lot of these guys that replied here is actually making use of circle hooks. Maybe just didn't mention it as such. Anyway I will cover circle hooks in the super post when we are finished with these discussions.
Ek wou mos se.....

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Capiez wrote:
Skuimkop wrote:
I know a lot of these guys that replied here is actually making use of circle hooks. Maybe just didn't mention it as such. Anyway I will cover circle hooks in the super post when we are finished with these discussions.
Ek wou mos se.....
Ek gebruik meestal circles met kleiner ase en dan die groot mustad catfish hooks vir GROOT ase... Circles is ek nooit sonder.

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 Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2014 02:57 pm
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Hi chaps. I must admit i feel very guilty about my 3 word posts and little input and decided to make it right and share my basic drifting trace with you. Hope you enjoy::slr::_seal1_;););)


Ill start by saying this. Drifting is awsome and provides bites when bank or anchored angling is slow. How ever it becomes awful frustrating having to reverse the boat every 100m to free a snagged rig. Most people will say you must move to an area with a sandy bottom and little structure. But this means you may be moving off the fish half the time. I hopey rig helps.

Fluero carbon is not a must but i love it. First get your favourite circle hook. Size 6.0 or 7.0 is normally good depending on brand. Snell that onto a hook link about 20 to 40 cm in lenght depending on how deep you want your bait to swim. Like so. I use a .70 leader but its up to you.

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 Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2014 03:03 pm
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Hi chaps. I must admit i feel very guilty about my 3 word posts and little input and decided to make it right and share my basic drifting trace with you. Hope you enjoy::slr::_seal1_;););)


Ill start by saying this. Drifting is awsome and provides bites when bank or anchored angling is slow. How ever it becomes awful frustrating having to reverse the boat every 100m to free a snagged rig. Most people will say you must move to an area with a sandy bottom and little structure. But this means you may be moving off the fish half the time. I hopey rig helps.

Fluero carbon is not a must but i love it. First get your favourite circle hook. Size 6.0 or 7.0 is normally good depending on brand. Snell that onto a hook link about 20 to 40 cm in lenght depending on how deep you want your bait to swim. Like so. I use a .70 leader but its up to you.

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Hi chaps. I must admit i feel very guilty about my 3 word posts and little input and decided to make it right and share my basic drifting trace with you. Hope you enjoy::slr::_seal1_;););)


Ill start by saying this. Drifting is awsome and provides bites when bank or anchored angling is slow. How ever it becomes awful frustrating having to reverse the boat every 100m to free a snagged rig. Most people will say you must move to an area with a sandy bottom and little structure. But this means you may be moving off the fish half the time. I hopey rig helps.

Fluero carbon is not a must but i love it. First get your favourite circle hook. Size 6.0 or 7.0 is normally good depending on brand. Snell that onto a hook link about 20 to 40 cm in lenght depending on how deep you want your bait to swim. Like so. I use a .70 leader but its up to you.

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