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 Posted: Wed Oct 8th, 2014 02:54 pm
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 Posted: Wed Oct 8th, 2014 02:56 pm
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 Posted: Wed Oct 8th, 2014 04:46 pm
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darrenk wrote:
gofish! wrote:
"With that said, when you hook a decent fish on a grinder, its not the best piece of kit to have around, but that doesn't happen very often."

Interesting comment.....


Something like that..
:shock::shock:..Jor..thats a BEEG PISTON!!!;)

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 Posted: Wed Oct 8th, 2014 05:04 pm
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fully agree. best one by far

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What I can't understand is that a lot of people want to turn the grinder /multiplier argument into a one-is-better- than-the other.....that is not what it is about at all. It is just a different way of achieving the same result, it definitely has some pro's, and also some cons.For those dyed in the wool multiplier fans, there ARE benefits to the braid, from time...just ask anyone that fished 40 lb braid in a screaming side wash using a cone sinker. Now try that with .50 mm nylon on a multiplier, and let me know how that works out for you. I will concede that on really big fish, multiplier and heavy nylon is tops - no argument.I take the point of view that I am going to have fun landing modest fish, sometimes in difficult conditions, and if the giants come along....well, I will do the best I can and let the cards fall where they may. Not convinced that, were I to be on a multiplier, I would land the fish in any case - nobody can make that statement with confidence. But give us grinderheads some space to do our thing, please.

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Fish4Fun wrote: What I can't understand is that a lot of people want to turn the grinder /multiplier argument into a one-is-better- than-the other.....that is not what it is about at all. It is just a different way of achieving the same result, it definitely has some pro's, and also some cons.For those dyed in the wool multiplier fans, there ARE benefits to the braid, from time...just ask anyone that fished 40 lb braid in a screaming side wash using a cone sinker. Now try that with .50 mm nylon on a multiplier, and let me know how that works out for you. I will concede that on really big fish, multiplier and heavy nylon is tops - no argument.I take the point of view that I am going to have fun landing modest fish, sometimes in difficult conditions, and if the giants come along....well, I will do the best I can and let the cards fall where they may. Not convinced that, were I to be on a multiplier, I would land the fish in any case - nobody can make that statement with confidence. But give us grinderheads some space to do our thing, please.

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 Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2014 11:26 am
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Fish4Fun wrote:
What I can't understand is that a lot of people want to turn the grinder /multiplier argument into a one-is-better- than-the other.....that is not what it is about at all. It is just a different way of achieving the same result, it definitely has some pro's, and also some cons.For those dyed in the wool multiplier fans, there ARE benefits to the braid, from time...just ask anyone that fished 40 lb braid in a screaming side wash using a cone sinker. Now try that with .50 mm nylon on a multiplier, and let me know how that works out for you. I will concede that on really big fish, multiplier and heavy nylon is tops - no argument.I take the point of view that I am going to have fun landing modest fish, sometimes in difficult conditions, and if the giants come along....well, I will do the best I can and let the cards fall where they may. Not convinced that, were I to be on a multiplier, I would land the fish in any case - nobody can make that statement with confidence. But give us grinderheads some space to do our thing, please.;)..Aaagg..lighten up Bud...we just taking the mickey...everyone gets so SERIAS.....GO FISH!!!

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 Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2014 11:41 am
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PatrickC wrote: Fish4Fun wrote: What I can't understand is that a lot of people want to turn the grinder /multiplier argument into a one-is-better- than-the other.....that is not what it is about at all. It is just a different way of achieving the same result, it definitely has some pro's, and also some cons.For those dyed in the wool multiplier fans, there ARE benefits to the braid, from time...just ask anyone that fished 40 lb braid in a screaming side wash using a cone sinker. Now try that with .50 mm nylon on a multiplier, and let me know how that works out for you. I will concede that on really big fish, multiplier and heavy nylon is tops - no argument.I take the point of view that I am going to have fun landing modest fish, sometimes in difficult conditions, and if the giants come along....well, I will do the best I can and let the cards fall where they may. Not convinced that, were I to be on a multiplier, I would land the fish in any case - nobody can make that statement with confidence. But give us grinderheads some space to do our thing, please.

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very true but its damn expensive at the moment. would be interesting to see the league statistics if more fish are actually caught on grinders e.g. are the league scores these days higher than 3 or 4 years ago, it's not exactly the best science as it is difficult to keep conditions constant, but will still give an idea. If I was into lure fishing I would certainly get a setup.

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 Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2014 11:47 am
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Pylstert wrote: very true but its damn expensive at the moment.

That is why I am asking the questions Pylstert. Like I said I will try anything that will give me an edge. Only problem like you said is the cost involved getting a decent rig.

 

When I started fishing for sharks - before I joined a league I had to figure out this all on my own. Thus buying and selling a lots of tackle before I founded a happy medium... Cost me a pretty penny. Thus I am trying to avoid that scenario again.

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Wow, it amazes me that Kent is on the scene again!
As per usual, nothing positive to add, thinking he is funny when people are looking for truthful answers and asking guidance he gets cleva!I don't thing he knows how to hold a rod with a grinder, let alone fish with one. There is nothing wrong with a grinder setup,a grinder can compete with the best of best multipliers out there and if used with correct combination of braid and fishing style I would honestly say that grinder fishing is awesome fun. There have been huge fish landed using multiplier and grinder just all depends how you go about fighting the fish.

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 Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2014 12:08 pm
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spinnekop2 wrote:
Wow, it amazes me that Kent is on the scene again!
As per usual, nothing positive to add, thinking he is funny when people are looking for truthful answers and asking guidance he gets cleva!I don't thing he knows how to hold a rod with a grinder, let alone fish with one. There is nothing wrong with a grinder setup,a grinder can compete with the best of best multipliers out there and if used with correct combination of braid and fishing style I would honestly say that grinder fishing is awesome fun. There have been huge fish landed using multiplier and grinder just all depends how you go about fighting the fish.
:hyst::hyst::hyst::clow..Love you too Brucie boy...

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 Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2014 12:10 pm
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:)..As to being positive....my apologise to those on this thread...please those that enjoy the technology....well done...and yes some great catches on reels that years ago would have been unheard of.....so my humblest apologise if i offended anyone..._seal1_

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 Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2014 12:12 pm
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;)..By the way Bruce...I still owe you a session at Haga haga and Double mouth...when you down this way again...::tight:

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Unfortunately it could be the same with grinder outfits too....very unlikely that the first rod and reel combo will be perfect for you. Even if it is after fishing with it for a while you may want to start tweaking n things or trying a stiffer rod or different reel etc. Best is to try as many different combos as you can among your grinder owning friends and see what you prefer.

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always warms me ego when fishing a grinder and small rod and pulling out a fish and traditionalist (multiplier) dudes are like did you catch that fish on that rod and reel :shock:

still in its infancy i think with only one or two reels really up to the task of tackling big game (bullseye and stella) but out of most peoples budget whereas multis have a multitude of reels from a speed master to a / saltist that generally speaking most can afford without having to run to a saltiga /trini

but for self service these reels are tricky and the one i tried to service myself was left in a shocking state :lol:1

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Fish4Fun wrote: Unfortunately it could be the same with grinder outfits too....very unlikely that the first rod and reel combo will be perfect for you. Even if it is after fishing with it for a while you may want to start tweaking n things or trying a stiffer rod or different reel etc. Best is to try as many different combos as you can among your grinder owning friends and see what you prefer.
 

But at least it is going to cost me less - hopefully...:)

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flippy wrote: always warms me ego when fishing a grinder and small rod and pulling out a fish and traditionalist (multiplier) dudes are like did you catch that fish on that rod and reel :shock:


Jip I know that feeling - it is like going gallie fishing with my little WAFT 12.6 rod and SL20SH - throwing past the guys with the biiiigggg sticks and reels. As well as hooking more than they do as well

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flippy wrote: still in its infancy i think with only one or two reels really up to the task of tackling big game (bullseye and stella) but out of most peoples budget whereas multis have a multitude of reels from a speed master to a / saltist that generally speaking most can afford without having to run to a saltiga /trini



And that is what I am looking for a decent reel that will not:

1. Break the bank and further cause a expensive divorce.

2. Not drop me while I am trying to land a prize fish

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((goodp_ dswart.. i always believe the fisherman must own his rig and the rig must not own the fisherman

trying to look cool and not being able to use the combo to its potential means that rod and reel owns you so might as well scale down and use a rig to its full potential or owning it..just generally speaking of course

same will apply to a grinder rig.. some of the rods ready made for grinder casting are heavy and putting a big reel on there makes it one heavy rig to fish with whole day (beach master comes to mind)

but that backbone is also needed sorely for a big game rig obviously.. no doubt threads like these are being watched by those in the business and awareness being raised here will see competition and standards intensify for the market..its a win win really

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dswart wrote:
flippy wrote: still in its infancy i think with only one or two reels really up to the task of tackling big game (bullseye and stella) but out of most peoples budget whereas multis have a multitude of reels from a speed master to a / saltist that generally speaking most can afford without having to run to a saltiga /trini



And that is what I am looking for a decent reel that will not:

1. Break the bank and further cause a expensive divorce.

2. Not drop me while I am trying to land a prize fish


cool..i understand but there are guys fishing bigger grinders and rods that will give better advice and i too for interest sake watching closely if one day i get a bigger rig

check this list by alan hawk on the best reels for in category http://www.alanhawk.com/reviews/lists.html to give a more clear indication also check his reviews on reels

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