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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 05:04 pm
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So how do you join your main braided line to your braided leader line.

And how do you join the braided leader line to the swivel

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 05:08 pm
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Yucatan knot for braid mainline to braid leader with bimini knot making a loop in the mainline

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 05:09 pm
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Berkley braid knot to swivel

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 05:13 pm
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Dynamite are you using the same make of leader as hypershark?

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 05:15 pm
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I have also used the JDB braid leader as well as 150lb HMP, both have worked for me so far

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 05:18 pm
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Where do you find these braids? Especially the JDB?

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 05:21 pm
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For HMP braid speak to Craig (Enigma) on this forum and he can send to you craig@cds-angling.co.za

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 05:22 pm
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Not sure where the best place to get JDB from near CT

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 05:26 pm
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And from the up country...

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 05:31 pm
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Basil manning is where i ordered mine from

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 05:35 pm
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Thanks really do appreciate you guys inputs ...

Any words of advice what to look for / pitfalls?

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 05:40 pm
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dswart wrote:
Thanks really do appreciate you guys inputs ...

Any words of advice what to look for / pitfalls?


Best advice i can give from my experience is put on proper rod eys made for a grinder and wind the braid on under even tension, because if it isnt you going to discover the windknot very quickly, or if you have the wrong rod eyes the braid will catch around them and yank em off and dont overfill your reel with braid either

Hope this helps

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 05:43 pm
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Dynamite 2 wrote: hypershark wrote:
@Dynamite ....

What distance do you recon you achieve on you EVO ? How is the action of the rod during the cast?


I have measered on the field that with the Evo and just a 7oz i would average +-165m and the 8oz +-175m.

I tend to throw the kitchen sink in my cast so i felt when i gave the Evo the full beans it felt like it was going to break but surprisingly not. Its a nice action and softish tip. I must also add that i'm 6ft4 and 112kgs and gym 6 days a week, so for most it will be perfect, for me i like a stiffer rod

i have such a gutter mind..... :spite:spite:spite:doh:doh

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 05:46 pm
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Henning Venter wrote:
Dynamite 2 wrote: hypershark wrote:
@Dynamite ....

What distance do you recon you achieve on you EVO ? How is the action of the rod during the cast?


I have measered on the field that with the Evo and just a 7oz i would average +-165m and the 8oz +-175m.

I tend to throw the kitchen sink in my cast so i felt when i gave the Evo the full beans it felt like it was going to break but surprisingly not. Its a nice action and softish tip. I must also add that i'm 6ft4 and 112kgs and gym 6 days a week, so for most it will be perfect, for me i like a stiffer rod

i have such a gutter mind..... :spite:spite:spite:doh:doh



:doh::teas:::uzi;)

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 05:48 pm
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ek weet nou nie teveel van grinders nie en leer maar nog, maar hier is my 2cent worth!!

favorite setup: ek vir my n ou purglass 400/3 omgebou met regte grinder oogies en n saragosa 10000. 30lb braid and love the setup.

second setup: p7 from gremlins with saragosa 20000 en 50lb... bit heavy to fish with the whole day....

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Dynamite 2 wrote: Henning Venter wrote:
Dynamite 2 wrote: hypershark wrote:
@Dynamite ....

What distance do you recon you achieve on you EVO ? How is the action of the rod during the cast?


I have measered on the field that with the Evo and just a 7oz i would average +-165m and the 8oz +-175m.

I tend to throw the kitchen sink in my cast so i felt when i gave the Evo the full beans it felt like it was going to break but surprisingly not. Its a nice action and softish tip. I must also add that i'm 6ft4 and 112kgs and gym 6 days a week, so for most it will be perfect, for me i like a stiffer rod

i have such a gutter mind..... :spite:spite:spite:doh:doh



:doh::teas:::uzi;)
o ja en ek weeg 120kg en was 6jaar laas in die gym

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 05:53 pm
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Henning Venter wrote:
Dynamite 2 wrote: Henning Venter wrote:
Dynamite 2 wrote: hypershark wrote:
@Dynamite ....

What distance do you recon you achieve on you EVO ? How is the action of the rod during the cast?


I have measered on the field that with the Evo and just a 7oz i would average +-165m and the 8oz +-175m.

I tend to throw the kitchen sink in my cast so i felt when i gave the Evo the full beans it felt like it was going to break but surprisingly not. Its a nice action and softish tip. I must also add that i'm 6ft4 and 112kgs and gym 6 days a week, so for most it will be perfect, for me i like a stiffer rod

i have such a gutter mind..... :spite:spite:spite:doh:doh



:doh::teas:::uzi;)
o ja en ek weeg 120kg en was 6jaar laas in die gym


Maar jy kan nog n lood sit daar waar min manne ooit n lood sal kan gooi nie

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dswart wrote: Spool-Song wrote: With that said, when you hook  a decent fish on a grinder, its not the best piece of kit to have around, but that doesn't happen very often.

Why would you say is the reason for this?

I find a multiplyer stronger than a grinder (Aerolex 8000) for pulling big fish. My grinder starts to bend and twist and go a bit wobbly under strain. my Daiwa Grandwave 40 multiplyer is solid. I haven't tried the expensive grinders.

The reason for this not happening very often is that I am a K@k fisherman;)

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 06:03 pm
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Spool-Song wrote:
The reason for this not happening very often is that I am a K@k fisherman;)

Well according to your best catch you got a 80 pount tarpon on fly ... that is a whole lot better than most of us on this forum will do in a life time

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Okuma makes some solid grinders that most people overlook.

I believe its not fashionable enough for the sheep in our country.

Research the salina and raw grinders. You"ll be suprised. At a third of the price of the saragosa n spheros they are best value for money imo.

Biggest advantage to this type of fishing is getting much more distance if you are an average caster.
In strong sidewashes and rips you will still feel the bites on the braid.
Braid is stronger and thinner than mono provided your knots are solid.
More direct n hookups will increase
You can use any rod aslong as the 1st 2 or 3 guides are changed for grinder use
You dont really have to load a rod to its fullest to get leka distance like with a multiplier setup
Casting n fishing in wind is much easier, you still feel the bites no matter how big bow/arc in the line

Basically theres more pros than cons if done properly.

And with any reel or tackle, if looked after and serviced properly n regularly it will last you a long time.

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