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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 02:51 pm
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Guys I see more and more guys fishing with grinders for rock and surf

1. What is the benefit of a grinder over a multiplier with braid.

2. What is the type of rod one must buy

3. And the reel - and no I cannot afford a buls eye

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 03:04 pm
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;)...Its not a revolution its a fashion.....

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Kenty wrote: ;)...Its not a revolution its a fashion.....

Lol....

But currently more and more guys are going for this fashion statement and I am wondering why?

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 04:22 pm
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I grew up catching bass with spinners and I don't worry with no overwinds..It is logical for me.. I use the grinder for everything, always have and just learning the conventional. It is different for everyone I guess but the grinder has ease of use that is hard to beat. The engineering is just starting to catch up to the demands we place on the tackle, when the revolution is over and we've been milked dry there are going to be some really amazing reels available..My 2c.

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 04:50 pm
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That sums it up. I have both, and my grinder is still a go too reel, cos its easier to use and I spend less time undoing overwinds and I can cast any weight sinker on a grinder, and comfortably do tiny lob casts or belt it out without fear.

With that said, when you hook  a decent fish on a grinder, its not the best piece of kit to have around, but that doesn't happen very often.

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 05:07 pm
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Well i can only speak for myself with regards to why i changed to the grinder setups.

Personally i find this new style something completely different and fun, as the braid is so direct, so you feel everything with regards to peckers you would never feel with nylon and every bite is exaggerated making your heart skip a beat or two.

I have done a fair amount of casting with the grinder and dont find i get better distance, but for me after fishing many years with multipliers the grinder is so much more fun then the multiplier and nylon.

With regards to a rod. I have bought an Assassin Evo and a BM 100/50/450 whith are not full HMG rods made for braid and grinder fishing, but i have also done my pentagon heavy HMG rod up for a grinder and multiplier, as i find i get better distance with the HMG rod, which suits my style of casting better. More people are slowing moving to the HMG style rod for grinder as well.

There are quite a few grinder reels on the market that can fit your budget. Depends on the budget really, but the saragosa / spheros 20000 is a firm favorite and will set you back around R3000 - R3500 and will also hold 900m 50lb braid, which is plenty

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 05:16 pm
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Dr halibut hoffman wrote: when the revolution is over and we've been milked dry there are going to be some really amazing reels available..My 2c.
Sobering thoughts thanks

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 05:18 pm
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Spool-Song wrote: With that said, when you hook  a decent fish on a grinder, its not the best piece of kit to have around, but that doesn't happen very often.

Why would you say is the reason for this?

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 05:20 pm
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Dynamite 2 wrote: Well i can only speak for myself with regards to why i changed to the grinder setups.

Personally i find this new style something completely different and fun, as the braid is so direct, so you feel everything with regards to peckers you would never feel with nylon and every bite is exaggerated making your heart skip a beat or two.

I have done a fair amount of casting with the grinder and dont find i get better distance, but for me after fishing many years with multipliers the grinder is so much more fun then the multiplier and nylon.

With regards to a rod. I have bought an Assassin Evo and a BM 100/50/450 whith are not full HMG rods made for braid and grinder fishing, but i have also done my pentagon heavy HMG rod up for a grinder and multiplier, as i find i get better distance with the HMG rod, which suits my style of casting better. More people are slowing moving to the HMG style rod for grinder as well.

There are quite a few grinder reels on the market that can fit your budget. Depends on the budget really, but the saragosa / spheros 20000 is a firm favorite and will set you back around R3000 - R3500 and will also hold 900m 50lb braid, which is plenty


Thanks Dynamite 2!!! What braid are you using?

Are you wading with the reel and if you are how are the reel taking this?

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 05:28 pm
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At the moment i have only used PowerPro the old rough oneand have spooled my new reels with HMP braid, which i will test out now at the Gus in JBAY between the 22nd - 25th of this month, where i can give my honest feedback on it then.

The PowerPro old braid 30lb i used it in the A nationals at Struisbaai for the last two days where i fell in love. What makes the Powerpro old rough one great is when you fish in a crowd it cant get burnt off with the other braids, where slick braids did tend to get burnt off by the rougher braids in the smash.

I used a make do outfit then as i had no intention to fish with a grinder or braid before the nationals, but bought one mid way through the nationals (Aerlex 8000 shimano) which i drown a good few times wading and it still works fine. Bought for R800

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 05:32 pm
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These grinder rods - can you throw a heavy bait and are you fishing this with or without a leader?

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 05:38 pm
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I use my grinder for everything including big ineds .... Its alot more fun and obviously simpler to use :)
The build quality of big saltwater reels like the Gosa allows you to really pressure big fish and hold alot of braid .... Having straight braid mainline allows you to feel everything during the fight !

all in all , yeah it may be a " fashion " but the setups you can put together are most definatley up to the task of heavy fishing;)

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 05:44 pm
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hypershark wrote: all in all , yeah it may be a " fashion " but the setups you can put together are most definatley up to the task of heavy fishing;)
May I ask what your set ups is?

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I found with the Evo that a 7oz sinker and medium / not too large size bait will be fine, but a yellowtail head will be too much in mu humble opinion. I will be getting my BM 100 - 50 - 450 soon, so havent tried that, but it apprently will throw a 9oz with large bait. If i want to throw a yellowtail head and 9oz i'll use my extended pentagon heavy hmg.

Throw all my grinders with braid leaders

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Of course ....
I currently use a saragosa 25000 paired with a shimano technium with a few mods to make it grinder friendly ...

500m of whiplash and 300m of jigman braid , also use a 6m length of 180lb braid leader !

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2014 05:52 pm
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Thanks guys these braid leaders are they a certain type and colour?

 

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@Dynamite ....

What distance do you recon you achieve on you EVO ? How is the action of the rod during the cast?

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dswart wrote:
Thanks guys these braid leaders are they a certain type and colour?

 


Dont think there is a particular one that works best with regards to a braid leader as i understand it, but 150lb upwards is preferred

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dswart wrote:
Thanks guys these braid leaders are they a certain type and colour?

 

I currently am using the JDB 8X braid leader .... Strong stuff

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@Dynamite ....

What distance do you recon you achieve on you EVO ? How is the action of the rod during the cast?


I have measered on the field that with the Evo and just a 7oz i would average +-165m and the 8oz +-175m.

I tend to throw the kitchen sink in my cast so i felt when i gave the Evo the full beans it felt like it was going to break but surprisingly not. Its a nice action and softish tip. I must also add that i'm 6ft4 and 112kgs and gym 6 days a week, so for most it will be perfect, for me i like a stiffer rod

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