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 Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2014 11:00 am
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eyal goren
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good day boys @ GIRLS

wanted to ask you gys about using what light rod to use for sliding

live mullet on sinkers 5-6 oz ?

sliding from sandy flat beach and looking for something

around 13ft that will be a good casting rod to cast 80-100

mtr past the surf and handle fish up to 10-12 gk

reel i"m using is daiwa sl30sh with .43 -.45 mono

prices in 1000R - 1200R range

most of the fish around Israeli coastline are in the

2-6 kg size

currently casting with a 14ft medium finnor grafithe-surf

witch is very hard for me to cast 6oz sinker

i need advice on lighter 3-5 / 4-6 oz

with medium action

thanks allot eyal

Last edited on Wed Jun 25th, 2014 08:51 pm by eyal goren

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 Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2014 04:02 pm
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A slightly bigger reel might be better balance on your setup and help get the distance you are looking for.

No to many 4-6oz rods in the 13ft range, mostly 14ft.
Shimano Beast Master light would go well with your reel but its 12ft and rated to 5oz.

Question, why do you want to slide on a light setup?

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 Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2014 04:29 pm
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Enigma built me a 4 to 7 oz 13 ft oval. A beut of a rod but I agree that a bigger reel is needed. I pair mine with a Trinni 30a and is beautifully balanced.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2014 07:03 pm
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PatrickC wrote:
A slightly bigger reel might be better balance on your setup and help get the distance you are looking for.

No to many 4-6oz rods in the 13ft range, mostly 14ft.
Shimano Beast Master light would go well with your reel but its 12ft and rated to 5oz.

Question, why do you want to slide on a light setup?

hay patrick

no one slide over here in israel so i tried with small

non-return slide i make my self

the bass and amberjack love live mullets and small fishs

to be cast behind the surf break

casting the live bait such long distance usually kill it

so i started sliding not long ago landing few bass 2-3 kg

size

in the winter we get Spanish mackerel at 10-12 kg size

along the beach that will take any live bait you fish with

my big problem is actually not being Abel to cast with

the finnor 14ft 6 oz sinker way past the surf

and it might be better to cast with a lighter rod

cause i have no difficulty sliding 200-500 gram live bait

on 5 oz sinker

thank you all for the fast replays

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how about these rods

http://www.bigcatch.co.za/shop/adrenalin-rods/rod-adrenalin-surf-havoc-13ft-3pc/

http://www.bigcatch.co.za/shop/adrenalin-rods/rod-adrenalin-surf-spinner-13ft-3pc/

http://www.bigcatch.co.za/shop/loomis/rod-loomis-shockwave-13ft-3pc/

http://www.kingfisher.co.za/showprod.php?prod_id=3805&cat_id=43

http://www.kingfisher.co.za/showprod.php?prod_id=1374&cat_id=43

any one of you gys have experience using one of those

rod i will be more than happy for info

thanks eyal

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 Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2014 10:06 pm
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why cant you use a small reel with a 13 or 14ft rod? the world distance casting champs do

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 Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2014 10:43 pm
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Pylstert wrote:
why cant you use a small reel with a 13 or 14ft rod? the world distance casting champs do

i would like to try some rod with slower/medium action

that it is easier to cast with mate

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 Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2014 10:58 pm
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the lightest in that price range is the blue marlin g3 4-6oz rod..one i have and enjoy fishing with.. light to fish with whole day & great for casting and sliding no probs

http://www.bluemarlinfishingrods.co.za

dunno if they export though

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 Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2014 11:13 pm
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if the meditteranean mostly offers flat water unlike Cape Town /South Africa with big waves where you need a heavier rod capable of up to 10oz sinkers and up and no strong side wash etc then 4oz grab sinker should be enough for sliding live baits

this rod will do it no probs and handle that size fish enabling you better casting distance with lighter sinker.

this a pic of my rod with sl30 ⇣

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 Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2014 11:40 pm
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flippy wrote:
if the meditteranean mostly offers flat water unlike Cape Town /South Africa with big waves where you need a heavier rod capable of up to 10oz sinkers and up and no strong side wash etc then 4oz grab sinker should be enough for sliding live baits

this rod will do it no probs and handle that size fish enabling you better casting distance with lighter sinker.

this a pic of my rod with sl30 ⇣


howsit flippy

my brother in low spouse to be around CT next month

so he is familiar with big catch shop

i recon he's going to get me the rod over to israel

small question is this the g3 model you are talkking about ?

http://www.bigcatch.co.za/shop/blue-marlin/rod-blue-marlin-g3-13-8ft/

thanks allot mate

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 Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2014 11:49 pm
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that one might be different.. one I'm referring to is the 14ft g3 '420' 4-6oz multi tip tech rod

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the rod info

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flippy wrote:
that one might be different.. one I'm referring to is the 14ft g3 '420' 4-6oz multi tip tech rod
i will have quick serch

tanks again mate

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the label.. like bra chocks also said if you wanna save a bit more then go custom and enigma is one to talk to.. others also here like whale rider etc if you wanna go custom but then your budget will be more than in your first post

up to you

here the label pic with info

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hope it helps ;)

good luck ::tight:

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guess that's the one

http://www.bigcatch.co.za/shop/blue-marlin/rod-blue-marlin-g3-13-8ft-2/

i"l kick my b i l to get one of these while in C-T and give

it a try

thanks once again for the help flippy

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Hi

Ask enigma (Craig neill) to built you a rod what you need and what suit your fishing. he built good rods and will know what to to built for you.

 

I only fish with his rods which he designed and built. (fresh and saltwater) and it is good rods. he built rods according to your standerds.

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howsit everyone

finely i got my rod from big-catch and it is a BM 420-4-6oz

http://www.bigcatch.co.za/shop/blue-marlin/rod-bm-t53-g3-14ft-6-8oz-with-bag-and-tube

i did few sliding with it and caught some seabass in the 2kg

size with it , from your gent's experience with no marking on

the rod tips 1-L , and nothing on the 2 , can i cast

5oz no bait with the L tip ?


and can I cast 7oz grapnel sinker only on the heavier tip

for sliding in

stronger wind\surf conditions ?

i"m using daiwa sl30sh 0.45 line on the L tip

and penn sqwall 40 0.50 line on the H tip

thanks again for any info

eyal

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hi eyal

the limited edition is a t30 compared to the normal t24 that i use.. so you might get away with using a slightly (1oz) max heavier sinker than manuf markings.. so 4oz tip on light maybe 5oz and so on but think with the heavy tip 6oz should be the max

if you really fishing unpleasant conditions then go with a grab sinker with extra long booms but in lower oz's like 4 or 5oz

and only start sliding the bait after you first cast in the sinker and left it to get a good hold of the ocean bottom for 10 or 15 minutes..also make it permanent by adding a cable tie around the legs so it don't come loose

experiment with the rod but within reasonable techniques/tactics

you a far way away from getting in your car and getting a free tip because warranty still exists

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flippy wrote:
hi eyal

the limited edition is a t30 compared to the normal t24 that i use.. so you might get away with using a slightly (1oz) max heavier sinker than manuf markings.. so 4oz tip on light maybe 5oz and so on but think with the heavy tip 6oz should be the max

if you really fishing unpleasant conditions then go with a grab sinker with extra long booms but in lower oz's like 4 or 5oz

and only start sliding the bait after you first cast in the sinker and left it to get a good hold of the ocean bottom for 10 or 15 minutes..also make it permanent by adding a cable tie around the legs so it don't come loose

experiment with the rod but within reasonable techniques/tactics

you a far way away from getting in your car and getting a free tip because warranty still exists

hey flippy, thanks again mate

i'll try and post more pictures if there will be any

success with my new set, seabass season had just began now

eyal

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