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 Posted: Mon May 5th, 2014 07:57 pm
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COBIA777
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I will do a sketch for this method and a few others and post it

Check for thr post later.

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 Posted: Mon May 5th, 2014 08:58 pm
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Thanks cobia, appreciate the advice::slr::

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 Posted: Mon May 5th, 2014 09:20 pm
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Here's a quick sketch of the Trolling trace I discussed earlier for anything between a Mackerel and a Mullet. I keep it plain simple and effective. It works.

If you are going to use a lets say drift around, swim on its own livie then use the same trace without a sinker, for when the boat is stationary and perhaps relying on current or wind drift.

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 Posted: Mon May 5th, 2014 10:32 pm
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Oops nearly forgot the sketch.

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 Posted: Mon May 5th, 2014 10:43 pm
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Thanks((goodp_

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 Posted: Mon May 5th, 2014 11:44 pm
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1 x 10/0 tsunami circle hook through both lips of the fish when casting the bait
For sliding the same rig but only through the top lip
When using J-hooks:
·         6/0 kendal through the top lip alone and pull it right through. then insert the hook again and "ryg" the hook like a needle and pull it out again. The last time you must place the hook next to the fin on the mallet's back. - for cobs (think PASTA has got a tut on it in the trace section)
·         for leeries you just hook the j-hook through the top lip and pull it out but then insert the hook again and place it close the the mallet's head.
·         Elf is also the same as the cob but they attack more to the tail section and jou should place your hook in such a manner that it is located close to the tail
We think the leeries eat from the front while the cobs attack you bait from the back. (Again our opinion)
Give the circles a go - the tsunami works like a bomb and your mallet stays alive much longer as it is only hooked once.

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 Posted: Mon May 5th, 2014 11:46 pm
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for cob:
use this link
http://www.sealine.co.za/view_topic.php?id=39261&forum_id=57

for garick:
do the same method but only insert the hook through the mouth of the fish and then insert it once more but place it close to the head

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 Posted: Tue May 6th, 2014 01:02 am
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nice advise there cobia.

yip the old days we used them castmasters.
just lobbed the live bait out.
now days we slide everything out to the back line, past all the feeding fish.
so is essence we are in many cases fishing past our target specie.

old men will tell you Garrick were caught just past the first breaker, so why are we sliding to England for that matter?

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 Posted: Tue May 6th, 2014 09:13 am
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here is one for the medium size mullets....

Make your trace already, sinker mainline everything except the hook. Make the hook trace a little shorter than the sinker trace.

take a bait needle, and thread your trace (.80 for me), under the skin of the mullet next to the spine from just before the tail to just behind the head. Pull almost the whole trace through, and leave the sinker mullet and all the rest in your baitbucket, rockpool, whatever u using for livies so it can chill while you tie on the treble hook.

Now i think it's vmc, but there is a treble called a "scorpion", with 2 trebles 1 size, and the 3rd one 2 sizes bigger. This works the best but a larger treble will work as well. Pull the trace back so the 2 legs of the treble is on either side of the livey, and the larger treble is standing upright on it's head.

Now you have a livey that you can "clip" onto your grapnel and cast like you would any other bait you need to get out further.

With thanks to my uncle RupertN.

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 Posted: Tue May 6th, 2014 09:33 am
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Marthin wrote: here is one for the medium size mullets....

Make your trace already, sinker mainline everything except the hook. Make the hook trace a little shorter than the sinker trace.

take a bait needle, and thread your trace (.80 for me), under the skin of the mullet next to the spine from just before the tail to just behind the head. Pull almost the whole trace through, and leave the sinker mullet and all the rest in your baitbucket, rockpool, whatever u using for livies so it can chill while you tie on the treble hook.

Now i think it's vmc, but there is a treble called a "scorpion", with 2 trebles 1 size, and the 3rd one 2 sizes bigger. This works the best but a larger treble will work as well. Pull the trace back so the 2 legs of the treble is on either side of the livey, and the larger treble is standing upright on it's head.

Now you have a livey that you can "clip" onto your grapnel and cast like you would any other bait you need to get out further.

With thanks to my uncle RupertN.
En dan staan jy vir die volgende 2 ure en wonder of jou livie wel los ge"clip" het.....

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 Posted: Tue May 6th, 2014 11:48 am
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korrek... beslis een van die negatiewes... Maar ek toets gewoonlik my aas, livey of gooi aas nadat ek dit geclip het....

ek worry baie minder oor dit as n stukkie Macassar Krismis decoration oor my lyn in die donker en n slide wat nie tot onder gaan nie.

Sonder dat hy geclip is, kan overwind en afstand vir jou n probleem wees, en n dag wat jy net 2 hardertjies het wil jy hulle nie mors deur hom af te gooi of overwind uitkatrol gooi weer nie.

Net n opsie.

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 Posted: Tue May 6th, 2014 12:15 pm
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Strange that no one has mentioned the Live Bait clip? Still in my opinion a much better way of targeting Garrick.

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 Posted: Tue May 6th, 2014 01:07 pm
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Yeh also still have 5 of those slide up n down clips in my possession. I actually think they originated from the Margate area.

Work like a bomb.

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 Posted: Tue May 6th, 2014 01:40 pm
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Ye those free swimming slides are great off deep water points. Livey stays alive much longer. @Heatseaker! one would assume with the movement of the livey and surge it will come loose. Its a great idea I think .

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Really irks me actually! Marthin takes the time to write out an informative post and no props or discussion, just a kortaf negative answer.

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 Posted: Tue May 6th, 2014 01:49 pm
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Pslatarix wrote:
Really irks me actually! Marthin takes the time to write out an informative post and no props or discussion, just a kortaf negative answer.
Sal nogals help as Heatseeker eerder met n beter voorstel kom eerder as om net negatiief te wees

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Presies Oom Pieter. Its easy to point out flaws but it takes some intelligence to rectify them

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 Posted: Tue May 6th, 2014 02:33 pm
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Marthin your method works. Tried and tested for years.

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 Posted: Tue May 6th, 2014 03:21 pm
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Nou waars die Warmsoeker se idee ??

 

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 Posted: Tue May 6th, 2014 03:40 pm
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Slim jan se wereld die manne

like ur idea marthin

ive seen a few guys slide livies totally wrong
Hooked backwards and all

lead hook through top lip or nose and other hook in back guys

or just use 1 circle .best way I say through top lip

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