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THE BEST CASTING LIGHT MULTIPLIER REEL ?  Rating:  Rating
 
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 Posted: Wed Feb 19th, 2014 04:44 pm
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The only rod missing from this collection is one rod my friend Wilhelm owns. Are you referring to the little custom 11 footer or that long, thin, stiff HMG thing that unlike single malt, I don't like "on the rocks" ? I'll use my light cracker stick if I need something longer for your side of Blombos, although the 11footer works perfectly on the side of Blombos that I'm familiar with. The last time I fished it, I tagged and released a bunch of nice galjoen as the trip got postponed and ended up on the weekend just after the gallie season closed and it was strictly "window shopping" !

Can't wait for gallie-time !

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 Posted: Wed Feb 19th, 2014 04:48 pm
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Nope talking about your fathers rod

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Nope talking about your fathers rod Out of bounds boet, almost like fishing siffie for cracker these days ! I will let you cast it with 4oz and either the Torium 14 or SL20SH on it, but if it gives you sleepless nights after that, the damage is for your account. Remember that Enigma said that you can get a very similar feeling and power modern blank from Purglas - maybe he can build you one so that you can really enjoy the feel of such a compact little rod, but you just have to fit one of those small diameter narrowspool reels on it, to experience it at its best !:fishn

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But I am mos in your testament just for the rod?

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In theory yes, but I'm planning to outlive all you youngsters, so Enigma may be in for some business still while you are waiting for me to kick the bucket ! Remember the blank id - 300/3/2-piece built to 11 ft !!!

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In theory yes, but I'm planning to outlive all you youngsters, so Enigma may be in for some business still while you are waiting for me to kick the bucket ! Remember the blank id - 300/3/2-piece built to 11 ft !!!

I still have plans for you - we are going to fish the reefs the coming season so please make sure that your testament is up to date...

We still must make a turn at Quiver !!!

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Reefs and swimming with my rods & reels - Aikona ! Quiver - Yebo !

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 Posted: Wed Feb 19th, 2014 06:28 pm
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Cuban Cigar wrote:
Reefs and swimming with my rods & reels - Aikona ! Quiver - Yebo !

Aai hoekom sukkel ek vandag weer so?

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Cuban Cigar wrote:
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For me nothing comes close to the Fathom15. I have a SL30 as well, casts well but the Fathom is still king.

I use either Sufix 832 or Fireline ranging from 50lbs to 80lb. Like I told you the other night once you are hooked on catching gallies with braid you will never look back.
Hallo Streep - yes you and Dirk are the culprits that planted the braid "seed" that is threatening to germinate ! I'll send you a email with a few questions regarding the use of braid without a leader, as I do not want to sabotage the reel thread I started here and that topic has been discussed to some length recently - still leaves me with some unanswered questions though....

Cheers


Why without an leader CC?
I'm not crazy of the sound and feeling of the knot going through the tiny guides of the little rods I fish, but will give it a go with 0.55 Maxima if you and Streep teach me the slickest knots.


Cuban Cigar,

If planning on fishing gallies or the likes, which it seems you want, i wouldnt bother with a leader either. Straight braid. I have straight braid to a swivel, i used the same swivels for years! I only change them once they start to bend or wear out. Rather just loose your hook trace than an entire length of leader. For gallies its awesome, feeling even the sand washing around the line, and not too mention the brute force and impact of the bite. Every couple of years, just change the line around. It cuts through kelp and mussels no problem. You seldom get stuck. The sinker line breaks easily just from the impact of the braid. My 100M with T14 and braid , is really a good set up. Im just looking for a lighter rod though.

For the Cape its perfect, else where im not sure, but shouldnt be any different.

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Grootvis, which knot do you use when tying the braid to the swivel?

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Hi Grootvis - I see you have the narrowspool Trini 16A - how do you compare its casting with that of your Torium 14 ? Although I think you use it on the Poseidon HMG Lite and the Tor14 on the 100 M ? I will definately try the braid on my small reels with and without leader this season to see for myself.

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Strepie wrote:
Grootvis, which knot do you use when tying the braid to the swivel?

I stitch it with a needle most times. I also sometimes use a knot, not sure of the name, will try and find a diagram somewhere, its far easier to see than explain.

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Cuban Cigar wrote:
Hi Grootvis - I see you have the narrowspool Trini 16A - how do you compare its casting with that of your Torium 14 ? Although I think you use it on the Poseidon HMG Lite and the Tor14 on the 100 M ? I will definately try the braid on my small reels with and without leader this season to see for myself.

The trini 16A is an absolute beast of a small reel. I have actually never casted a better reel and I have all the sizes. T14 doesnt compare, but for light tackle rock and surf it is fine.
after winning the reel in a raffle, i took it to strandfontein for its first mission. Armed with freshly netted sardine, I unfortunately hooked about 4-5 bronzies on the TN16A and poseidon light. It handled very very well, however the fight did not last long as I was going to get spooled so straight sticked and waited for line to part.

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grootvis wrote:
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Grootvis, which knot do you use when tying the braid to the swivel?

I stitch it with a needle most times. I also sometimes use a knot, not sure of the name, will try and find a diagram somewhere, its far easier to see than explain.


Its a basic blood knot with an overhand knot in the end, the knot pulls up to the tag end knot and locks. I have never had it fail. I forgot what the name of the knot was, its a blood knot(the easiest), brain not working today.

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Hi Grootvis - I see you have the narrowspool Trini 16A - how do you compare its casting with that of your Torium 14 ? Although I think you use it on the Poseidon HMG Lite and the Tor14 on the 100 M ? I will definately try the braid on my small reels with and without leader this season to see for myself.

Meant too also add, do not go with suffix braid. use fireline or spiderwire. suffix doesnt hold knots well and seems to deteriorate faster. Dont forget the section of monofilament on the reel first before loading braid. very essential.you probably know this already though.

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Hi Grootvis - I see you have the narrowspool Trini 16A - how do you compare its casting with that of your Torium 14 ? Although I think you use it on the Poseidon HMG Lite and the Tor14 on the 100 M ? I will definately try the braid on my small reels with and without leader this season to see for myself.

Meant too also add, do not go with suffix braid. use fireline or spiderwire. suffix doesnt hold knots well and seems to deteriorate faster. Dont forget the section of monofilament on the reel first before loading braid. very essential.you probably know this already though.
how much of what diameter nylon on spool of Torium 14 before filling with fireline ? Any preferance or difference in successrate when using greyt natural vs bright fluerescent braid ?

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I have found that replacing the mono on the bottom with a double layer of insulation tape prevents any slippage and you then have braid top to bottom.

Personally prefer fluorescent braid for vis and I fish full length leader tied with Bob Sands knot.

Use good quality line for leader, usually Sugoi Fluoro and I use the same principle of hook and sinker snoots breaking before the leader or mainline and I seldom if ever have to retie a leader in a session.

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Hi Gents

 

I am in the same predikament as CC.

I want to get me a smaller reel and n lighter stick for the gallies, the reel i want to be able to use on the reefs aswell in the summer months now the reels that im thinking of is the 15/30 or the 20/40 or perhaps a sl30?

I cant justify spending more than a R1000 for a reel that is going to work hard hence the 2 shimano options, i am just a bit nervous that the 15/30 might not take enough line and that the 20/40 is going to be to big!?

And the the rod is a headache on its own, i fish purglass and blue marlin 1 piece rods and i want to stay with the 1 piece idea, if i had to close my eyes and and i will go for a 11ft /1 or /2 but now a friend of mine has confused my thinking very much after he mentioned a couple of other option for the rod.

I dont mind spending more on the rod but now the question is what rod perhaps u guys could give an option or suggestions?

Regards

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Although a couple of guys are using a 15/30 on the shorter rods - it is to heavy and will not balance a lighter rod. Plus the fact that ideally the 15/30 only start preforming with a 5 ounce sinker and up. Yes you can through lighter sinkers on a 12 foot rod for instance but you will not get the distance as with a 15/30 and a longer rod. Especially if you mag the reel.

My suggestion will be in your budged range a SL30SH - just wash it after each outing and service the bearing reguarly. Takes enough line...

What rod where you thinking of getting?

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I have found that replacing the mono on the bottom with a double layer of insulation tape prevents any slippage and you then have braid top to bottom.

Personally prefer fluorescent braid for vis and I fish full length leader tied with Bob Sands knot.

Use good quality line for leader, usually Sugoi Fluoro and I use the same principle of hook and sinker snoots breaking before the leader or mainline and I seldom if ever have to retie a leader in a session.
Makes good sense with one less knot - are you happy that it will provide enough cussioning against possible compression of the spool, caused by just cranking against a heavy load instead of pumping and then cranking, on light reels like the SL20/30SH with synthetic spools or the Torium 14 and Saltist BG20H with metal spools, or is this only the case with heavy reels and sharkfishing where I have seen spools collapse ?

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