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THE BEST CASTING LIGHT MULTIPLIER REEL ?  Rating:  Rating
 
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 Posted: Mon Feb 17th, 2014 04:54 pm
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I'm looking for a excuse to get one more compact multiplier reel to pair with my 10ft and 11ft gallie rods and 2oz to 4oz lead plus compact streamline bait like worms, prawn, whitemussel and vrottes. The choice will probably come from the following candidates : Daiwa SL20SH, Saltist BG20H, Shimano Torium 14,Trinidad 14A, Penn Fathom 15. It would be great if some of you have a couple or all of these in the above sizes, to do a unbiased comparison on their casting ability please ?

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 Posted: Mon Feb 17th, 2014 05:10 pm
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Saltist BG 20H cast like a bomb and can't get overwinds great reel.
Also try the Penn 525 not sure if they as fast as the Saltist but not bad reels

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 Posted: Mon Feb 17th, 2014 05:53 pm
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Ek verkies die fathom 15 leflike katrol

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 Posted: Mon Feb 17th, 2014 06:01 pm
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They all good reels....the question is $$$$$$$$$$

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 Posted: Mon Feb 17th, 2014 06:02 pm
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Not the SL20SH or Sealine X-SHA which has a better balanced spool and is a much faster reel.

Tune it with a Mono Mag, load it with 50lbs braid as mainline and never look back.

Trinidad 12A filled with Braid would be my choice as main reel for the application you are envisaging.

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 Posted: Mon Feb 17th, 2014 07:07 pm
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If money is no object the Trini 14a is probably the pick of those reels but my money would be spent on the Saltist BG20. Load it with 40-50lb braid and you'll be smiling, well not if you get an overrun LOL and it does happen a lot easier with braid on a multiplier.

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 Posted: Mon Feb 17th, 2014 07:33 pm
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curious...ever considered a 15/30 shimano? The torium 14 fits perfectly with my 100M exage. Lovely set up, I fish braid only for gallies and it takes a fair bit of line!

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15/30?

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 Posted: Mon Feb 17th, 2014 08:19 pm
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15/30 to big for what he is after

The Saltist 20 or Tor 14 loaded with braid with well set cast control is perfect for Gallies in WC only fishing 10-50m tops.

Easy to cast the braid to 110m on the reel with no danger of overruns and consider a monomag adaptation and no overruns at all.

Monomagged a Bannax 50 and a number of Trini 20A and Saltiga 40's and they throw a long way with no threat of overwinds or even flairing

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Trini 16a is also a little gem for size, dont know about lasting in the conditions tho.

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 Posted: Mon Feb 17th, 2014 09:17 pm
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Hi guys - you all seem to have some very valid points. Sadly, finance does play a role and unless the Trinis can outcast the other reels by a serious margin, it wil be difficult to justify the heavy premium on price ? I already use the SL20SH and Torium 14 and is very happy with them, but have another little gallie stick on my wishlist, therefore the search for another reel to match. I do agree with Craig that the 1530 is too big for what I have in mind as a compact gallie reel, although I can understand your choice of it for the 'tail Grootvis. I just love my fully modded and magged one with 5 and 60z on my heavier duty 13ft cracker rod. The Saltist BG20H is the reel I have been looking into lately and if it casts on par with my other two small reels, it will be good enough. One question though - I don't own any reels without counterweighted handles - when I went to testcast a bunch of reels that I fitted magbrakes to for customers, to finetune,I found that when casting the Saltist 50 and making a aggressive move with the butt section during the cast, that the reel handle would flip over with a heavy "thump" that is very disturbing. This did not happen to any of the narrower spooled BG 35 or silver Saltist 40's that I casted during tha same session, but with all three of the 50's I tested! I can only figure that the combo of my casting stroke and the wider spool of the 50's without a handle counterweight triggered this ? Hopefully the little narrow framed BG20 won't do this ? I haven't yet made the move to braid, but is certainly interested - any specific casting braid you prefer for this ?

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Any thick braid, most suited would be from using it, jerry brown, last long but cheaper than simen favourite fireline.

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I have been using 0.37mm 75lbs HMP for the last 3 years on my SL30 and it's just fine and showing no signs of wear.

75lbs seems rough but I fish #2 and #2 hooks and end up breaking the hook or hook snoot when snagging and my rig is only as strong as the 0.40mm hook snoot or 0.60mm leader so I lose a hook and not my leader and all else.

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Hell guys - thought I was working late with the 2014 wine grape harvest causing us to press late into the evenings, but I see that some of you also burn the midnight candles !
Any comments on some of the non counter-weighted handles flipping over during the cast ? What colour is the HMP braid and what length and diameter leader do you use for this type of fishing Craig ?

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HMP moss green or Yellow.

8 Braid 75lbs is around 0.37mm which I find behaves itself very well especially with hard casts.

8 Braid 50lbs is around 0.30mm a number of people I know use this but it's getting a bit on the thin side when sorting out a tangle.

The 8 strand braids hold up very well with casting and are so strong that by the end of a week of Gallie fishing your nylon leader will be 1-2m long and lots of hooks lost but no mainline.

Streepie and a few other guys here have been using this sort of setup for Gallies for a few years now.

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For me nothing comes close to the Fathom15. I have a SL30 as well, casts well but the Fathom is still king.

I use either Sufix 832 or Fireline ranging from 50lbs to 80lb. Like I told you the other night once you are hooked on catching gallies with braid you will never look back.

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Strepie wrote:
For me nothing comes close to the Fathom15. I have a SL30 as well, casts well but the Fathom is still king.

I use either Sufix 832 or Fireline ranging from 50lbs to 80lb. Like I told you the other night once you are hooked on catching gallies with braid you will never look back.
Hallo Streep - yes you and Dirk are the culprits that planted the braid "seed" that is threatening to germinate ! I'll send you a email with a few questions regarding the use of braid without a leader, as I do not want to sabotage the reel thread I started here and that topic has been discussed to some length recently - still leaves me with some unanswered questions though....

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HMP moss green or Yellow.

8 Braid 75lbs is around 0.37mm which I find behaves itself very well especially with hard casts.

8 Braid 50lbs is around 0.30mm a number of people I know use this but it's getting a bit on the thin side when sorting out a tangle.

The 8 strand braids hold up very well with casting and are so strong that by the end of a week of Gallie fishing your nylon leader will be 1-2m long and lots of hooks lost but no mainline.

Streepie and a few other guys here have been using this sort of setup for Gallies for a few years now.
Hi Craig - thanks for the reply - I like the idea of 0.37mm braid for the practical side of handling it. What diameter and length of leader would you suggest for gallies and standard or wind-on ?

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HMP moss green or Yellow.

8 Braid 75lbs is around 0.37mm which I find behaves itself very well especially with hard casts.

8 Braid 50lbs is around 0.30mm a number of people I know use this but it's getting a bit on the thin side when sorting out a tangle.

The 8 strand braids hold up very well with casting and are so strong that by the end of a week of Gallie fishing your nylon leader will be 1-2m long and lots of hooks lost but no mainline.

Streepie and a few other guys here have been using this sort of setup for Gallies for a few years now.
Hi Craig - thanks for the reply - I like the idea of 0.37mm braid for the practical side of handling it. What diameter and length of leader would you suggest for gallies and standard or wind-on ?

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The best small casting reel for me is the Saltiga Surf 30. Yes it is hard to find these days. As soon as your press is done it will let you fish with it.

Value for money? As in your case SL30SH - dirt cheap at round about R800 for a new one - hands down the most underated little reel...

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