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 Posted: Wed Aug 28th, 2013 12:18 pm
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Bushbuck
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Done some searching both on this site and general googling on St Lazarus banks but am blanking. Im heading there for a few days in mid October.


Dont have the kind of cash to buy new vertical jigging and popping rods and reel. I have a TLD50 loaded with 24kg line on standup rig used here in the cape for tuna and then my yellowtail rod, Sustain 8000 with 50lb and spool with 80lb on an 8ft Exage.


There over neaps which i know from this side is never really good for fishing any bank, but the shrimps are meant to be spawning so hoping for the best.


Guys i will give a full report when we are back but in preparation can anyone who has been there or done something similar give me some tips and advice on gear, tactics, especially terminal tackle. Any advice will be appreciated

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 Posted: Wed Aug 28th, 2013 03:46 pm
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Sorry I lost your email/pm between the 1200 that came through he last week.

Spoke to a few non sealiners who have fished there and in short it's like a mini-Bassas da India. Generally slightly smaller fish but LOTS of fish.

Wide variety, you will be covered for dropshot and Trolling but I would if I were you try get hold of a 8' heavy type rod and at least a Tor 20 with braid for jigging and bait fishing, that should fit the budget and maybe you have a good mate who will help you out

http://www.mozambiqueyachtcharters.com/en/page/st-lazarus-banks.php

http://www.mozambiqueyachtcharters.com/en/page/st-lazarus-banks.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ANksJeBpHE

http://www.outdoorpages.co.za/Fishing/DeepSea/Articles.asp?ID=122

http://multimedia.timeslive.co.za/photos/2009/11/fishing-on-st-lazarus-banks/

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.332099527657.184643.137264772657&type=3

Also search on trips to Bassas da India as this is what you will need to prepare for.

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 Posted: Wed Aug 28th, 2013 03:51 pm
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thanks for the reply, checking thru all the sites. Just reading about it all is getting me nervous. You say the tor 20, i was thinking along the lines of a spinning reel. Any difference here or is this budget related. What line would u load it with and any suggestions on rods

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 Posted: Wed Aug 28th, 2013 05:31 pm
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I was considering your email and the budget constraints.

The Saltist 40/Tor 20 etc size reel filled with braid is a very versatile reel and one could fill it straight with 80lbs braid and use it for all the king of fishing there as a budget option.

Light to medium jigging, popping, drop baits etc. One of the Kingfisher 8' 30-50lbs type rods will match up and allow you to do all these options.

It may take longer to land some fish and yes you will lose some giants but if the fishing god's smile on you, you could just post some monsters for us here.

If this is a once of trip not to be repeated and the budget is tight this is what I would look to do.

If you plan to do it a few times and the tackle is something you can use Dual purpose then I would look at using the revolving credit option on the credit card, get mid level gear and pay it off over a few years.

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 Posted: Wed Aug 28th, 2013 08:27 pm
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shimano trevella 6.6 heavy jig rod is about R 900.00 comes with gimbal and rated to like 200lbs braid, may be option?

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Was thinking more in the lines of the Poseidon Kingfish 15-18kg class rod which will fit his restricted budget better. 2.47m so can cast and pull like hell. Not so light but robust and durable

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 Posted: Thu Aug 29th, 2013 06:02 am
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A friend of mine di a few days on the banks last year doing a spearfishing charter and he said that there were some really big fish(Doggies and GT's).

I have been contemplating doing a trip to the banks.Just need to save a bit more and get the time off work.

Here is some video footage of the banks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlYgXdYf7QI

Check the size of the fish.

Last edited on Thu Aug 29th, 2013 06:05 am by roryf

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 Posted: Thu Aug 29th, 2013 06:12 am
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any chance u can pm me his details. would love to chat to him. I will also be taking some spearing grear.

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 Posted: Thu Aug 29th, 2013 10:03 am
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Use the spinning set-up you have for popping, then u just need jigging setup.

when jigging casting don't matter, what matters more is weight, gets tiring to jig a heavy outfit, there is no budget for stella / jigstar.

for budget setup, I would add a charter special 2000 or a tld 20 2speed reel, use lever drag reels, but not big so its heavy, spool with 80lbs braid. those trevallas, I have a few, are good rods not so expensive, and pretty indestructible
choose a reel with fast retrieve for deep jigging, saves work.
if there are big fish gt/tuna etc gonna need a decent braid & good drag.

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 Posted: Thu Aug 29th, 2013 12:29 pm
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I was lucky enough to work in Pemba for about 6 years, and managed to get onto the banks every now and then. BIG fish, and LOADS of them. if anything, try and go as big and as strong as you can afford. braid when jigging is a must, and you will probably be jigging in 50- 100M water for doggies and kings. take lots of tackle, coz you will loose a lot of tackle. take spare line, take spare braid, and if you are going to take a 10kg spinning rod, stick to the rainbow runners, as the rest of the fish there will $%#&* up a 10Kg rig in 2mins flat.

problem is not getting a 20kg , or 25kg king on a 10kg rod, problem is doing it two times an hour for three of four days running, the lighter gear does not last, so make sure you have something bigger for when your lighter gear has had it's time.

my suggestion is buy the best you can afford. trawling gear, nothing lighter than 30lb, 50lb is better, jigging gear, 50lb to start off, 80lb is better, popping gear, also , do not waste you time on anything lighter than 30lb, unless you just want to cast a small spinner for bait, then a 20lb will be ok.

and take lots of lures, lots of rapala's, lots of jigs , lots of gear, and you lose loads when one line runs off on another line also with a fish on (multiples are the norm)

we never really fished more than 4 or 5 rods at a time, just because by the time you have the third or fourth rod out, the first two are running already.

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 Posted: Thu Aug 29th, 2013 12:35 pm
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80-100kg doggies , 30 -40 kg GT's, yellowfin not as big as in the cape, but between 20 and 50kg, sailfish , BIG wahoo, Dorado not so big, but plenty , and the time of year you want to go , the dorado start running there. you got a good chance on marlin, but I have not seen many big ones come out there, most are between 80 and 150kg, here and there one or two over 200kg. if you get on the reef fish you will get BIG rock cod there ,Please let those go , keep one of the smaller ones for the braai, but you get Marble grouper swimming around there of 50 - 70 kg, they are about 30-40 years old, so let those go if you can.

MAN , sitting in Somerset west now, cold, rain , S*&^ I miss fishing Moz at the moment

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 Posted: Thu Aug 29th, 2013 12:39 pm
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not lazarus, but got this one for my client on a charter just off Pemba, cant remember, but think se was around 38kg

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this was off lazarus, not sure how mush it weighed, as we did not take her out

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That is a donkey!

fishystory wrote: not lazarus, but got this one for my client on a charter just off Pemba, cant remember, but think se was around 38kg

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got that Cuta on a CD9 sprinbokkie rapala on a 20lb rig trawling for bait

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 Posted: Thu Aug 29th, 2013 12:52 pm
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Fish of a lifetime!You would battle to get a bigger one.

fishystory wrote: got that Cuta on a CD9 sprinbokkie rapala on a 20lb rig trawling for bait

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You guys dont know how much gees you giving me now. Not sure how im going to sleep for the next month.

I also have a TLD30ld, Thinking of maybe loading that with 80kg braid. What lengths of line do u need to load on the reels. My tld50 had close on 600m of 50lb mono on, that must suffice. But the smaller spinning and popping setups, what do u suggest. Going to make an ebay purchase. Braid is so much cheaper that way. PowerPro has always served me well. The new one is meant to be good.

Some very generous guys have offered to loan me some heavy 80lb spinning/jigging gear. So thats sorted.

What is your guys experience with the Sustain 8000. It will only hold about 200m of 80lb. I have 2 spools one with 50lb which holds about 300m and the 80lb. How is this reel, especially the washers going to do

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 Posted: Thu Aug 29th, 2013 02:57 pm
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load ass much on the reel as you can get, you are going to loose a lot of it I promise

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80lb on a 30 is a bit much, 50lb would be better, no use if the reels and rod gives way before the line does.

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I use to fish TLD25's with 30lb, TLD30 with 50LB, had two 80lb rigs, and we use to jig with Trinidads with 50LB on, and some with 80Lb on, but that was when we just started jigging in the area. Still went out with Late Charles Norman, and we tried some different lures. soft plastics lasted about 15mins to a 10pack with the wahoo hahahaha good times

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