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 Posted: Thu Apr 18th, 2013 02:14 pm
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Tsutsuma
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Best Catch: Black Marlin - 237kg
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Will You take the Shot??

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 Posted: Thu Apr 18th, 2013 04:18 pm
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week-fish
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Location: Cape Town, South Africa
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Only if my gun is tied to the boat!!

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 Posted: Fri Apr 19th, 2013 07:20 am
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Japie
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 Posted: Fri Apr 19th, 2013 07:24 am
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Stapies
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Location: Mosselbay/ Gordons Bay, South Africa
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Tsutsuma wrote:
Will You take the Shot??

It will be dead!!! I wont think twice!!!

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 Posted: Fri Apr 19th, 2013 09:10 am
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Psy
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 Posted: Fri Apr 19th, 2013 09:16 am
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fishalitis
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Joined: Tue Aug 24th, 2010
Location: Port Elizabeth, South Africa
Posts: 651
Equipment: hmg blue marlin 14'6' Shimano 15/30
Best Catch: 31kg cob, 11kg cracker,
Favorite Fishing Spot: Sundays Surf, Maitlands, Van der Riets
Boat: sold
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you will be instantly entered into the open water slalom ski championships

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 Posted: Fri Apr 19th, 2013 09:55 am
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Vades
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Location: Port Elizabeth, South Africa
Posts: 1289
Equipment: A few odds and ends
Best Catch: 17kg cob; 14kg Steenbras, 9kg cracker; 150kg blacktip
Favorite Fishing Spot: Sundays, Van Stadens, Gamtoos, Kabeljouws
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Nope. I have no desire to kill such a magnificent fish.

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 Posted: Fri Apr 19th, 2013 10:26 am
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Limpopoking
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The question should read "why would you?"

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 Posted: Fri Apr 19th, 2013 11:12 am
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..Chillax..
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Equipment: shimano nexave 7ft with shimano siena, 9ft shimano vengance
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Jisss.  Ek sal dit ook nie oor my hart kan kry nie, maar wat n trophy fish!:first

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 Posted: Fri Apr 19th, 2013 11:18 am
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aquadementia
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Location: Jeffreys Bay/Pretoria, South Africa
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Favorite Fishing Spot: St. Francis to Gamtoos, Angola, Vaalkop & Doorndraai
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other than not wanting to kill it, I wouldnt want to kill myself in the process...

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 Posted: Mon Apr 22nd, 2013 05:41 am
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Mariusvj
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Location: Port Elizabeth, South Africa
Posts: 395
Equipment: Spearguns and rods
Best Catch: Too many
Favorite Fishing Spot: Bushy Park
Boat: 6m triton
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Absolutely and stuff the consequences.

 

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 Posted: Mon Apr 22nd, 2013 06:24 am
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QAZA
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Vades wrote: Nope. I have no desire to kill such a magnificent fish.

I completely agree with Vades. What a shame few people are willing to conserve just to have bragging rights with the boys.

Maybe a speargunner can give us the percentage odds of successfully landing the fish, against losing it, where the fish will die due to it's injuries. Lost for the future generation, for ever and ever...................................

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 Posted: Mon Apr 22nd, 2013 08:24 am
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roryf
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Location: Scottburgh, South Africa
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Equipment: RA Spearguns
Best Catch: 22kg Couta,28kg Sailfish,26kg Wahoo,28kg YFT
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I think that I would have a crack at that marlin if I was setup right,with enough float line,bungees and floats and a backup boat.

I have shot a Saily before and my wife has threatened that if I shoot another one I mustn't bother coming home because they look beautiful.We ate the Saily and it was really nice.

There definitely is an emotional feeling towards billfish when it comes to spearfishing and not many people agree with shooting them.

Is there a difference to killing a Bronze Bream or Yellow Belly Rockcod (SASSA Red list fish) rather than a marlin?

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 Posted: Mon Apr 22nd, 2013 08:53 am
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fishalitis
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Equipment: hmg blue marlin 14'6' Shimano 15/30
Best Catch: 31kg cob, 11kg cracker,
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its not a crime.

Everyone can make up his own mind.

Its childish to expect the next man to do the same as you would.

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 Posted: Mon Apr 22nd, 2013 12:44 pm
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QAZA
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fishalitis wrote: its not a crime.

Everyone can make up his own mind.

Its childish to expect the next man to do the same as you would.


Thanks fishalitis for your post -  with respect, however, I do wish to reply.....

I am 50% as much a fisherman as I am a bushveld meat hunter. I'd  rather lower my rifle when a trophy Gemsbok / Kudu / Impala comes my way and just enjoy the view, not even mentioning rhino/elephant passing my way - I make up my own mind, if I can afford it or not.  I have been to enough hunting farms in the last 30 years  where game has been decimated to such a point where advertising your available game stock to keep your numbers in check for hunts are rediculous. Same thing as fishing - promise you success, pay your daily fees, go home empty handed.

My point is, as a sport fisherman / hunter, I envy everybody that has an oppurtunity to land these truly magnificent beasts, be it a shark or billfish - they can be released. Rhino / elephant / lion can not be released when targeted with a Martini Henry 450!

But, I might be killing myself with this re-post, by saying: most people blame the government, previous or current for the the current protection of species.

It ends up with hunter / fisherman making a decision - kill it, enjoy it per view or catch and release. I do not have kids, but damn, I would like to land a big one in 40 years time.

 

I would like to tr

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 Posted: Mon Apr 22nd, 2013 12:58 pm
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Mariusvj
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Location: Port Elizabeth, South Africa
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I have been spearing for 38 years, since I was in Std 5 and bagging a Marlin is definetely on my bucket list.

I have never been fortunate enough to go to the areas where you could expect marlin, or sailies and if the opportunity arises, I will shoot it, but only one.

Very few marlin succumb to spearos and the amount is so small that you immediately get almost celebrity status, that is how rare it is.

So, in short, the chances of shooting a Marlin are so small, that the Marlin that get accidentally killed during a fishing compitition far exceed the amount shot by spearos.

Have a look at the link below and see how many marlin they sampled in that short period, that is frightening.

I dont shoot yellowbellys and broze bream, because of their slow growth rate.

http://www.spc.int/DigitalLibrary/Doc/FAME/Meetings/WCPFC/SC3/BI_WP2.pdf
 

Last edited on Mon Apr 22nd, 2013 01:10 pm by Mariusvj

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 Posted: Mon Apr 22nd, 2013 01:24 pm
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fishalitis
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Best Catch: 31kg cob, 11kg cracker,
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DIRKM wrote: fishalitis wrote: its not a crime.

Everyone can make up his own mind.

Its childish to expect the next man to do the same as you would.


Thanks fishalitis for your post -  with respect, however, I do wish to reply.....

I am 50% as much a fisherman as I am a bushveld meat hunter. I'd  rather lower my rifle when a trophy Gemsbok / Kudu / Impala comes my way and just enjoy the view, not even mentioning rhino/elephant passing my way - I make up my own mind, if I can afford it or not.  I have been to enough hunting farms in the last 30 years  where game has been decimated to such a point where advertising your available game stock to keep your numbers in check for hunts are rediculous. Same thing as fishing - promise you success, pay your daily fees, go home empty handed.

My point is, as a sport fisherman / hunter, I envy everybody that has an oppurtunity to land these truly magnificent beasts, be it a shark or billfish - they can be released. Rhino / elephant / lion can not be released when targeted with a Martini Henry 450!

But, I might be killing myself with this re-post, by saying: most people blame the government, previous or current for the the current protection of species.

It ends up with hunter / fisherman making a decision - kill it, enjoy it per view or catch and release. I do not have kids, but damn, I would like to land a big one in 40 years time.

 

I would like to tr

Thanks Dirkm for the reply my man.

Sometimes we expect everyone to be at the same place in time where we are but mostly they are not so prescription is not really on.

We can point out how we see things but we cant prescribe.

Remember my previous comment rings true for both sides of the equation.

When you start prescribing and finger pointing you forget those that are being pointed at were once you.

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 Posted: Mon Apr 22nd, 2013 01:27 pm
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roryf
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Mariusvj wrote: I dont shoot yellowbellys and broze bream, because of their slow growth rate.
That was the point that I was trying to make.Marlin is more sustainable.I much prefer to shooting fast growing gamefish,wahoo being on the top of the list!

I just need to find my marlin.......with the right rig setup!

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 Posted: Mon Apr 22nd, 2013 02:02 pm
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QAZA
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fishalitis wrote:
DIRKM wrote: fishalitis wrote: its not a crime.

Everyone can make up his own mind.

Its childish to expect the next man to do the same as you would.


Thanks fishalitis for your post -  with respect, however, I do wish to reply.....

I am 50% as much a fisherman as I am a bushveld meat hunter. I'd  rather lower my rifle when a trophy Gemsbok / Kudu / Impala comes my way and just enjoy the view, not even mentioning rhino/elephant passing my way - I make up my own mind, if I can afford it or not.  I have been to enough hunting farms in the last 30 years  where game has been decimated to such a point where advertising your available game stock to keep your numbers in check for hunts are rediculous. Same thing as fishing - promise you success, pay your daily fees, go home empty handed.

My point is, as a sport fisherman / hunter, I envy everybody that has an oppurtunity to land these truly magnificent beasts, be it a shark or billfish - they can be released. Rhino / elephant / lion can not be released when targeted with a Martini Henry 450!

But, I might be killing myself with this re-post, by saying: most people blame the government, previous or current for the the current protection of species.

It ends up with hunter / fisherman making a decision - kill it, enjoy it per view or catch and release. I do not have kids, but damn, I would like to land a big one in 40 years time.

 

I would like to tr

Thanks Dirkm for the reply my man.

Sometimes we expect everyone to be at the same place in time where we are but mostly they are not so prescription is not really on.

We can point out how we see things but we cant prescribe.

Remember my previous comment rings true for both sides of the equation.

When you start prescribing and finger pointing you forget those that are being pointed at were once you.


Thank you for the candid reply.
I do have a question for the spearos:
As sportsmen in our different fields, with hunting, as with fishing, you do go out with your weapon/tackle targeting a specific species?
I will not target a buffalo with a .22 caliber( it will be ridiculous, en ek is seker te bang gat daarvoor), is this the same with spearfishing? At what point do spearos make the decision that the fish they are targeting will be landed successfully? And if MR. MARLIN swims buy, when do you decide to pull the trigger wandering/hoping your gear will stand the test of time?

Please guys, I am not pointing fingers, or thumbs, just want to be enlightened to your way of thinking.

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 Posted: Mon Apr 22nd, 2013 02:05 pm
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willem wikkel spies
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wait untill you look in the eyes of the fish when all life is drained from it.

dan praat ons weer.
it's your right to take the shot.
you decide. yes it is nice having a beast next to you.
been there done that.

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