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 Posted: Fri Apr 5th, 2013 03:58 am $report_button
   
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Tsutsuma
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We in Mozambique need help to ID the KZN SPEAROS in this picture
They killed all this fish on a new Reef they claim to have discovered in the Barra & Togo area
This all yesterday - Thursday 4 April
Would this be allowed in South Africa?

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 Posted: Fri Apr 5th, 2013 04:25 am $report_button
   
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Tsutsuma
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Mana: 
Here a Up Right picture of these guys
Please help in the ID and disgrace of these guys

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 Posted: Fri Apr 5th, 2013 05:11 am $report_button
   
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aquadementia
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no it wouldnt be allowed in SA due to the regulations stating that an angler is allowed no more than ten fish a day that are not baitfish... what do the Moz regulations say?

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 Posted: Fri Apr 5th, 2013 05:32 am $report_button
   
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Tsutsuma your first post you condone the shooting of the big cuda by posting it.

Same okes and you want to publicly slate them .
Most of your post are there to sensationalize and are not objective .

I do understand Bennie concerns now

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 Posted: Fri Apr 5th, 2013 06:08 am $report_button
   
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Mana: 
One CUDA shot was fine was it not?
So when a second picture gets posted with all this fish shot - is that correct?
I am reporting this - I was not part of it
So what is your post about?


Mango wrote:
Tsutsuma your first post you condone the shooting of the big cuda by posting it.

Same okes and you want to publicly slate them .
Most of your post are there to sensationalize and are not objective .

I do understand Bennie concerns now

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 Posted: Fri Apr 5th, 2013 06:10 am $report_button
   
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Tsutsuma
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"If you say nothing - If you do nothing = You STOP nothing"

Mango wrote:
Tsutsuma your first post you condone the shooting of the big cuda by posting it.

Same okes and you want to publicly slate them .
Most of your post are there to sensationalize and are not objective .

I do understand Bennie concerns now

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 Posted: Fri Apr 5th, 2013 06:23 am $report_button
   
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And the Ignore Button works, Tsuma thank you for the PM

Last edited on Fri Apr 5th, 2013 06:24 am by Mango

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 Posted: Fri Apr 5th, 2013 11:13 am $report_button
   
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Tsutsuma
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Mana: 
Roelof du Plooy has been ID in the picture
He has been contacted for his comments

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 Posted: Fri Apr 5th, 2013 11:18 am $report_button
   
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aquadementia
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aquadementia wrote:
what do the Moz regulations say?

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 Posted: Fri Apr 5th, 2013 11:58 am $report_button
   
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That's not great to see but by law they are allowed 10 of most game fish species, Couta, YFT, Queen Mackerel etc.

Maybe you should worry more about your local ski boats off Maputo that are destroying fish stocks on your on door step loading over 40-100 YFT a day.

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 Posted: Fri Apr 5th, 2013 11:59 am $report_button
   
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aquadementia
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Porra Newbie wrote:
That's not great to see but by law they are allowed 10 of most game fish species, Couta, YFT, Queen Mackerel etc.

Maybe you should worry more about your local ski boats off Maputo that are destroying fish stocks on your on door step loading over 40-100 YFT a day.
would that be ten of each species as opposed to ten total irrespective of species?

Last edited on Fri Apr 5th, 2013 12:06 pm by aquadementia

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 Posted: Fri Apr 5th, 2013 12:07 pm $report_button
   
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Yip 10 of each species, wish they would decrease it by at least half.

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 Posted: Fri Apr 5th, 2013 12:12 pm $report_button
   
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aquadementia
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Mana: 
thanks for the info PN

tsutsuma I dont think it's cool of you to slate two guys have have actually not done anything seriously wrong.. Ja it looks like a lot, but in the grand scheme of things it isnt really... No slow growing demersal species taken has left the reef intact if I have to judge by this photo. I'm not saying I condone a lawn full of fish either, I would probably have chirped these guys had I been there... BUT - IF I were to take a bunch of fish from a spot, I would do it in the manner these guys did - a handful of each from a variety of 'free swimming' species

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 Posted: Fri Apr 5th, 2013 12:24 pm $report_button
   
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aquadementia wrote:
thanks for the info PN

tsutsuma I dont think it's cool of you to slate two guys have have actually not done anything seriously wrong.. Ja it looks like a lot, but in the grand scheme of things it isnt really... No slow growing demersal species taken has left the reef intact if I have to judge by this photo. I'm not saying I condone a lawn full of fish either, I would probably have chirped these guys had I been there... BUT - IF I were to take a bunch of fish from a spot, I would do it in the manner these guys did - a handful of each from a variety of 'free swimming' species


I don't care if what they did was within the law, point is it's overkill.

Bet the excuse will be the same one used most times "the fish was not wasted as it went to the locals and they were really greatful".

Idiots.

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 Posted: Fri Apr 5th, 2013 12:29 pm $report_button
   
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Tsutsuma
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Mana: 
Really??
And who would that be - what is the boat name??
What Club is this boat operating from??
It seems you have critical information we do not have

Name and shame the boat and skipper here of your facts are 100% correct

Thanks for bringing it under our attention and I am sure to pass your information to the Commodore of the Club

Porra Newbie wrote:
That's not great to see but by law they are allowed 10 of most game fish species, Couta, YFT, Queen Mackerel etc.

Maybe you should worry more about your local ski boats off Maputo that are destroying fish stocks on your on door step loading over 40-100 YFT a day.

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 Posted: Fri Apr 5th, 2013 12:33 pm $report_button
   
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Hi Guys,

Whether what they did is illegal or not, such wanton killing is not acceptable.  Not to mention if the fish were sold which is doubly bad, and although there is merit in having donated them to local folk, it is still just killing for killing's sake.  We all want to be able to take our kids diving, and behaving like this will ensure we have no fish to shoot when we do.

Many years ago an article appeared in Getaway where a few spearos had shot a pile of cracker at Vic Bay, and I, along with a number of spearos, got uptight as they were well within their rights to do what they did.  However, I now sing a different song and I firmly believe we have to limit our catch, not catch our limit.

And not just because of public outrage such as this, but because it is the right thing to do.

LEAD SA and don't do things like this.  Be responsible, take a nice fish for supper, and perhaps a trophy too, but leave it and that and we will all be much better off in the long run.

Cheers,

Tony

 

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 Posted: Fri Apr 5th, 2013 12:33 pm $report_button
   
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The caption posted on the picture with all the speared fish reads like this :

"THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DISCOVER A NEW REEF"

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 Posted: Fri Apr 5th, 2013 12:35 pm $report_button
   
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Well said Tony

jensent wrote:
Hi Guys,

Whether what they did is illegal or not, such wanton killing is not acceptable.  Not to mention if the fish were sold which is doubly bad, and although there is merit in having donated them to local folk, it is still just killing for killing's sake.  We all want to be able to take our kids diving, and behaving like this will ensure we have no fish to shoot when we do.

Many years ago an article appeared in Getaway where a few spearos had shot a pile of cracker at Vic Bay, and I, along with a number of spearos, got uptight as they were well within their rights to do what they did.  However, I now sing a different song and I firmly believe we have to limit our catch, not catch our limit.

And not just because of public outrage such as this, but because it is the right thing to do.

LEAD SA and don't do things like this.  Be responsible, take a nice fish for supper, and perhaps a trophy too, but leave it and that and we will all be much better off in the long run.

Cheers,

Tony

 

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 Posted: Fri Apr 5th, 2013 12:41 pm $report_button
   
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Law vs ethics......

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 Posted: Fri Apr 5th, 2013 02:23 pm $report_button
   
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jensent wrote:
Hi Guys,

Whether what they did is illegal or not, such wanton killing is not acceptable.  Not to mention if the fish were sold which is doubly bad, and although there is merit in having donated them to local folk, it is still just killing for killing's sake.  We all want to be able to take our kids diving, and behaving like this will ensure we have no fish to shoot when we do.

Many years ago an article appeared in Getaway where a few spearos had shot a pile of cracker at Vic Bay, and I, along with a number of spearos, got uptight as they were well within their rights to do what they did.  However, I now sing a different song and I firmly believe we have to limit our catch, not catch our limit.

And not just because of public outrage such as this, but because it is the right thing to do.

LEAD SA and don't do things like this.  Be responsible, take a nice fish for supper, and perhaps a trophy too, but leave it and that and we will all be much better off in the long run.

Cheers,

Tony

 


Good constructive post

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