slide problems

string

New member
hi,

pretty new to the slide technique and so far have a recurring problem . when i get picked up by a fish, the slide is burning me off every time . i usally slide for about 8-10 min. and when i get picked up i point the rod at thye water and try to take up all slack . this is the part when i seem to get burnt off .please help cos i 've lost lost 4 fish in the last three weeks to this problem.

 
 
G

Guest

Guest
Ocupational hazard. Everybody who slides will get burnt off. One questions:What is the thickness of the line that you are using.

Wait longer let the fish lift the sinker.
Shake the rod more and try get the slide down to the sinker/leader.

Even if you do everything that you think is right you can still get burnt off. Guys like Whaler will give you more help. They are the experts.
 

neilg

Sealiner
Use minimum 15kg line , better to go to about 18kg
use good quality line

when u slide your bait and you feel that the non return clip has reached your stopper, then shake your rod for another 2 minutes just to make sure.

as said, let the fish pick up your sinker before starting to fight !

Make sure you do your knots properly, a little pigtail where your swivel, hook or sinker used to be is a good way of knowing your knot "pulled".
 

Shark man

Senior Member
Use .55 main line or thiker, nothing less.

Shake your rod for at least 10 minutes.

Don't strike and do not put on to much presure at first.  Keep your rod down with quite a tigh drag and only pick it up to set the hooks.

You will still get burnt of once in a while it happens to all of us.
 

carcharias

Sealiner
It sounds to me like the slide is not reaching the stopper. Probly not getting over your join between mainline and leader.
Thats why I asked the questions above.
The chances of burning a leader of 1mm or more is quite slim.
The tags on your knots can easily be part of your problem.
Give more detail and them the guys will be able to adress your specific problem.
 

KLIPVIS

Sealiner
String to give you the correct advise please advise the following.

weight of sinker and type
line diameter main and leader
lenght of slide
weight or size of slide ( bait )
what type slide ie weighted or no weight

all the above play a huge role

and then sometimes you still get burnt off , but if everything is right your chances is better.

always use .55 line minimum when sliding.
 

habib

Sealiner
tsa....i dont think we will ever know if it did.

i have been sliding now for only a few months ad so far have never had a problem with burning off. wat im doin ryt?....i dont know. i use 0.50 line...7/8 ounce and bonnies most of the time. my method.......which i learnt frm readind material/dvds and sealine member is the same which alota ppl use is

short jerky shakes at the beggining and once u lose site of ur slde......long hard strokes. do this for about 5 minutes. im lazee and use a rodstand all the time and the most important thing i found is to keep a tyt drag and tighten ur line alot so that the rod is bending on the stand. in this way it keeps ur line tyt and even if ur slide has not moved all the way down.......with a tyt line....it will move down graduallly. remember that u have to use a good quality rod stand and not those aliminium flexy long jobbys cos with a tyt drag....ur stand needs to hold wen the fish runs or u will just lose ur tackle

if ur line is lose....u stand a chance of tangling ur clip around the line and in my opinion...thats were u get broken off and not burnt off.  so in conclusion i would say that the most important thing is to keep ur line as tyt as possible cos thats what causes break offs and not the so called burn off.

my 2c...i knw there are many that dont agree....but take a minute and think of wat loose line in the water is doin to ur slide clip.....tangles
 

Tsa

Senior Member
"tsa....i dont think we will ever know if it did."

Yes habib thats what I thought as well, but everyone asking string that question, so though I might have been also missing something all along :)
 

string

New member
hi guys thanks for all the good advice. been working out of town for a while and had no computer. i use .55 mainline and .8 leader. with an eight ounce sinker been thinking that perhaps the sinker is really getting bogged down in the sand and does not brake free when the fish picks up my bait . also when i get i run i piont the tip of the rod at the water and then tighten the drag is this the correct way to respond?
 

khalaharikid

Sealiner
Your leader is way to thin, for big fish 1mm and wire about 60cm to your stopper,

Had an experience in the transkei where even the 1mm leader was not good enough, only the guys with 200lbs nylon coated wire were able to hang on to fish for longer than 20 min.

We had 27 pulls only 3 fish landed cause guys did noy use wire to the stopper!

Dont mean to be rude but .80 is for edible fish, snoot line to the hook, to light for big fish as a leader, however im sure guys will prove me wrong, but for consistant big fish go 1mm plus
 

carcharias

Sealiner
Here are a couple of points that I can think of that may help.
I would go to at least a 1mm windon leader. Use a short(30/ 40cm) piece of steel at the end of your leader. You can definately feel the slide reach the stopper, as well as when the slide goes over the join in your leader/mainline.
Try to use the water to help get the bait out to the stopper.
Rip tides work very well. Remember that most predators prefer working water anyway.
Use a thinner line between your stopper and your sinker. You can easily cast an 8oz sinker with 10kg line. If the fish then cant lift the sinker the line will break , near the sinker, and not break your mainline.
I have seen plenty guys not using the natural slope of the beach to assist with getting the bait out. The higher you can get the easier you will slide the bait.
Remember that you cannot set your reel at the same tention, or even close to your line rating. If a big fish takes a hard run that reel will not be able to keep the tention at a constant. As you loose line the drag, in effect, becomes tighter. The closer the line gets to the centre of the spool , the less leaverage the line has over the spool.
I hope this makes sence and helps you to find the solution.
 

Koeks

Senior Member
1mm leader, first thing the other thing that you you could do if you are having some problems with your knots is by some uv knot sense it is fairly expensive and is mainly used by fly fisherman, this makes a seel over your knots and the slide wont get caught on the tag ends of the knots, also dont shake to vilontly on the rod as it creates the chance of the slide twisting over the line. Make sure you have a peice of wire going to the stopper ring. HAve only ever been burnt off once and that was when i was picked up by a raggie as my bait hit the water of the island at mazeppa. Good luck and practice makes perfect.
 

string

New member
morning guys thanks for the advice. will def. scale up to a 1mm leader and use the short length of wire like you advised. unfortunately for those of us who woke up in durbs this morning ,you 'll be excused for thinking it was hurricane katrina , looks like we gonna have to wait a few days before we can wet our lines
 
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