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 Posted: Mon Jan 17th, 2011 10:17 am
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Hi guys,

I have been sliding for a few months now and only got my line snapped (not burnt off) once, all the other times my hooks came loose. Why is this?

I have used J-hooks sized from 9/0 to 12/0 and I've had fish on for 15minutes before losing it. What am I doing wrong?

 

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 Posted: Mon Jan 17th, 2011 10:45 am
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It might be that you are not setting the hooks very well? The best would be to get hold off decent circle hooks. These hooks set themselves and you dont need to strike.

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 Posted: Mon Jan 17th, 2011 10:46 am
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all i can think is that it may have to do with the hooks you are using? but as you have said you tried varying sizes so I have no idea....

shouldnt have anything to do with the sliding aspect though if you have had a fish on for that long. have you ever had this problem with throw baits?

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 Posted: Mon Jan 17th, 2011 10:52 am
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Could be that your baits are too big and the fish aren't getting their mouths around it so no place for the hooks to set. Often you don't need to set the hooks J hooks or circles as the fish will pick it up with such force it sets by itself.

Another issue could be the sharpness of the hooks. They have to be razor sharp to set! Daiichi, VMS and Gamakatsus are sharp enough out the box but Mustad, Bandit and others may need to be sharpened before use.

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 Posted: Mon Jan 17th, 2011 11:16 am
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Thanks for the replies.

I have never used a throwbait. Dont think I will get the distance I need.

I think self-set circle hooks are my next step.

I usually use a whole mackerel or a small yellowtail head with an inch of meat. and I always use 2 hooks. strange enough, I have caught about 5 small smoothhound sharks with those 12/0 hooks.

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 Posted: Mon Jan 17th, 2011 11:32 am
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Bud dont loosten your drag , lot of Guys when the fish goes they loosten up .Your drag should be ( I guess at 1-2kg ) just so that your rod dont dissapear out of your stand .Hold your thumb on the spool and lean back , this will set the hooks , offcourse only when your sure the slide is under , but you will know when it is .Bronsies dont take k@k they run.Tighten your drag slowly , maybe double up to 4kg , you can hold your thumb on the spool.A fish must work to take line off the reel , otherwise he will clean you out and resulting in a dead shark also.

Sharp proud hooks is the bom.

 

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 Posted: Mon Jan 17th, 2011 01:13 pm
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KLIPVIS wrote: Bud dont loosten your drag , lot of Guys when the fish goes they loosten up .Your drag should be ( I guess at 1-2kg ) just so that your rod dont dissapear out of your stand .Hold your thumb on the spool and lean back , this will set the hooks , offcourse only when your sure the slide is under , but you will know when it is .Bronsies dont take k@k they run.Tighten your drag slowly , maybe double up to 4kg , you can hold your thumb on the spool.A fish must work to take line off the reel , otherwise he will clean you out and resulting in a dead shark also.

Sharp proud hooks is the bom.

 


I think this might be where Im going wrong. I loosen my drag far more than this. I will try this the next time I target them. and add the circle hooks.

Hopefully this will put an end to me losing fish. Thanks everyone

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 Posted: Mon Jan 17th, 2011 01:39 pm
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Have to set the hooks properly, lost 5 raggies in one night after short fights because i was so excited i forgot to strike.

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 Posted: Mon Jan 17th, 2011 01:42 pm
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Aiden, you got good advice here from hooks to drag, I am going to add my 2c

Apart from using sharp hooks, make sure your hooks are standing proud in the bait. They must not be lying flat on the bait.

Also as said when you get a run, use the thumb, this will ensure your bait to be at the stopper ring (if its not there).

Once you are sure and you thumb the reel, thumb it hard and hit the rod hard once or twice or even 3 times. Just to make sure the hooks are set (J hooks).

Let as said,  him fight the drag.

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 Posted: Mon Jan 17th, 2011 03:41 pm
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Im sure I cant miss another fish with all this advice.
Just another question, how long do I have to make my steel trace from the slide to the hook? I usually use about 60cm.

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Calmer water 1.2m, Wave action rougher then 80cm and for very turbulent water 60cm

There is no greater cause of losing fish than blunt hook. Sharks jaws are super tough, your see when taking the hook out.

Once I have set the big circles by leaning into the fish I still bounce the rod to work the hook deep into the tough flesh.

Simen's advice is spot on, tightening the drag nd then thumbing the spool, you'll feel the line become dead as all the stretch is out, then strike / bounce the rod against the line with no stretch in it.

Striking to soon and when there is a lot of stretch in the line still will result in you striking the stretch in the line with little or no impact at the business end of the hook.

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 Posted: Mon Jan 24th, 2011 04:04 am
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Thanks guys, for all the replies and precious info. Went to the blue stuff again Satuday morning and the result.... one burn-off, one bronzie lost literally on the beach (leader broke) and.... my first bronzie landed. she isn't very big, but its a start. And in the excitement I forgot to measure it. Took a pic (that I cant seem to upload) and put her back in the water.

Last edited on Tue Aug 23rd, 2011 11:34 am by Aiden

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