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 Posted: Thu Jan 6th, 2011 09:58 am
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I have spoken to a few people in PE who have spotted an abnormal amount of Great Whites in and around Algoa Bay. One was spotted with in swimming distance from one of the main beaches. Even St. Francis Bay has reported a few big ones (4m+) within swimming distance of the shore.

Anyone else spotted any?

I know that we do get them in Algoa Bay due to the penguins and seals that can be seen on some of the nearby islands, but not in this volume and not normally this close to the beaches!

I wonder what is bringing them into areas that they do not normally frequent?

Think I am going to have to start carrying a bang stick :o

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 Posted: Thu Jan 6th, 2011 10:02 am
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Check his post on 20th Dec, rather try prod them than use a bang-stick (I know easier said than done).

 

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 Posted: Thu Jan 6th, 2011 10:55 am
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Check his post on 20th Dec, rather try prod them than use a bang-stick (I know easier said than done).

 

http://southafricaspearfishing.blogspot.com/


Yip, Gletwyn was one of the guys I chatted with. Lets hope that where great whites roam so do big fish :wfish

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 Posted: Thu Jan 6th, 2011 11:01 am
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Much more of them JUST behind the surf line than people think, has been that way for a few years

They are getting bigger and cleverer every summer

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 Posted: Thu Jan 6th, 2011 11:03 am
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I do allot of spearfishing and scuba diving and I am yet to encounter one while in the water. I have seen one break the surface near our boat out at Bellbouy but nothing else in PE.

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 Posted: Fri Jan 7th, 2011 06:27 am
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Give it time and you will see ou pieringoog.

The ones you see are not the problem, but rather the ones you don't.^^..

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 Posted: Fri Jan 7th, 2011 07:40 pm
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MOGGY wrote: . . . . . but rather the ones you don't.^^..

dis waarvoor ek bang is!!:ssswim:

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 Posted: Fri Jan 14th, 2011 06:10 am
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Hiya Gromit

I've also noticed a increase in White spotting here in the PE area. Could be due to the fact that are a protected specie and maybe looking for a bit more warmer waters???? Don't know, but them and the zambies are the reason I don't swim in the sea anymore, LOL.

Before I started targeting sharks I dreally didn't think there were that many close to shore, but now I know better.

Once snorkelled at Beachview just passed KiniBay (about 5 years back) where there are rocks in front and the only way in for a shark is waaaaayyyy to the left. My boet and I went out via the same gully about 3 times, no problems, and on the 4th occasion as I wanted to go into the deep water a shark came in the opposite direction, i.e. straight towards me. Didn't bother to have a look at what shark it was (probably a raggie pup) but with the teeth I saw I was probably reversing at a much faster speed than some people swim forward, with flippers :fbash:fbash.

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 Posted: Fri Jan 14th, 2011 07:56 am
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Hi Gromit,

Even in Natal we have seen more this year than previously. Since November we've had cloise to 30 sightings which is abnormal.

Just a word of caution regarding a bang stick or powerhead.
1) Possession of ammunition when not in possession of a valid firearm licence for that caliber is illegal.
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2) Even if you have said licence, a bang stick is classifed as a modifed firearm which is also illegal.

I know in the past we had them but cops turned a blind eye. Whether you want to take the same risks today... Just make sure you alone know and if you use it don't blurb to anyone

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 Posted: Fri Jan 14th, 2011 08:11 am
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Corry wrote:
Hi Gromit,

Even in Natal we have seen more this year than previously. Since November we've had cloise to 30 sightings which is abnormal.

Just a word of caution regarding a bang stick or powerhead.
1) Possession of ammunition when not in possession of a valid firearm licence for that caliber is illegal.
and
2) Even if you have said licence, a bang stick is classifed as a modifed firearm which is also illegal.

I know in the past we had them but cops turned a blind eye. Whether you want to take the same risks today... Just make sure you alone know and if you use it don't blurb to anyone


Thanks for the pointers, but personally I don't agree with powerheads and bang sticks, I rather try prod it and if it still persists, just get out the water.

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 Posted: Sat Jun 4th, 2011 08:17 am
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Hey guys any one know where i can get a plan to make a powerhead!

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 Posted: Sat Jun 4th, 2011 02:48 pm
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I have made some before but never tested them. Managed to get some Aluminium tubing with a 9mm ID. Pushed a 9mm parabellum through with the point just protruding so a nic groove remnained between the conical head of the bullet and the tubing. This groove was filled with Silicon. The back end also took a bit of silicon to seal the rear of the bullet. A short piece of black plastic tube with an OD of 9mm and a ID of 6mm was rammed up the back end. The theory was to stick one of these on the end of the spear and pop him with the speargun. Glad I never had to use one - who knows if it would've worked.:)

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 Posted: Sat Jun 4th, 2011 03:27 pm
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Arent white sharks protected? Ie. Using a bang stick would kill or maim the fish? I come from gw central and they are a pest at times.

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If you shoot a Great white and get caught you WILL get a solid fine or even jail!

great whites are way closer than most would like to admit i know in ct this summer a guy had his slide that was 20m of the beach eaten by a big white!!!!

there are lots more of them and it also has to do with the fact that people are more aware of them now...

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 Posted: Mon Jun 6th, 2011 08:24 am
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Gromit wrote: Anyone else spotted any?


Yep somenone else has, read this.


http://www.sealine.co.za/view_topic.php?id=58534&forum_id=26

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steve m wrote: If you shoot a Great white and get caught you WILL get a solid fine or even jail!

great whites are way closer than most would like to admit i know in ct this summer a guy had his slide that was 20m of the beach eaten by a big white!!!!

there are lots more of them and it also has to do with the fact that people are more aware of them now...


Admin Simen, I don't want to discuss GW's I just want to clear up a misconception.

Hi Steve M

There is a sense that you should rather allow yourself to be killed or injured rather than contravene a statute.

This is not the legal position.

Can I give this example: No person may harm or disturb a dolphin. There have been times when people have been harassed by dolphins. This is an extremely rare occurrunce and often relates to sexual activity or competition.

If you are about to be killed or hospitilised by a dolphin, you are allowed to give the dolphin a good hiding. If it seems likely that you will not make it back to the boat or shore alive and that the dolphin might kill you then you are entitled to kill the dolphin.

To quote Roger Waters "It was either me or him"

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 Posted: Mon Jun 6th, 2011 10:31 am
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jb2 wrote: steve m wrote: If you shoot a Great white and get caught you WILL get a solid fine or even jail!

great whites are way closer than most would like to admit i know in ct this summer a guy had his slide that was 20m of the beach eaten by a big white!!!!

there are lots more of them and it also has to do with the fact that people are more aware of them now...


Admin Simen, I don't want to discuss GW's I just want to clear up a misconception.

Hi Steve M

There is a sense that you should rather allow yourself to be killed or injured rather than contravene a statute.

This is not the legal position.

Can I give this example: No person may harm or disturb a dolphin. There have been times when people have been harassed by dolphins. This is an extremely rare occurrunce and often relates to sexual activity or competition.

If you are about to be killed or hospitilised by a dolphin, you are allowed to give the dolphin a good hiding. If it seems likely that you will not make it back to the boat or shore alive and that the dolphin might kill you then you are entitled to kill the dolphin.

To quote Roger Waters "It was either me or him"


I fully understand and would do the same but you will get some idiot who will shot one and claim this and that and think its fine...

i do however think that if you use a bangstick as was mentioned on this thread is illeagal i think then there will be *** because what were you doing with it in the first place...

please note im not saying that all spearfisherman would do this or even afew but you always get the one who will in everything in life...

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GIJOE wrote: Gromit wrote: Anyone else spotted any?


Yep somenone else has, read this.


http://www.sealine.co.za/view_topic.php?id=58534&forum_id=26

they are very close when i use to bodyboard and surf alot we saw them fairly often obiously also raggies and bronzies but we saw afew big whites! the one day my friend and i were surfing and he had a big white swim straight underneath him! and they dont really give problems i wouldnt chose to be in the water with a bite but they dont like biting people or there would be easily afew 100 attacks aday!

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steve m wrote: jb2 wrote: steve m wrote: If you shoot a Great white and get caught you WILL get a solid fine or even jail!

great whites are way closer than most would like to admit i know in ct this summer a guy had his slide that was 20m of the beach eaten by a big white!!!!

there are lots more of them and it also has to do with the fact that people are more aware of them now...


Admin Simen, I don't want to discuss GW's I just want to clear up a misconception.

Hi Steve M

There is a sense that you should rather allow yourself to be killed or injured rather than contravene a statute.

This is not the legal position.

Can I give this example: No person may harm or disturb a dolphin. There have been times when people have been harassed by dolphins. This is an extremely rare occurrunce and often relates to sexual activity or competition.

If you are about to be killed or hospitilised by a dolphin, you are allowed to give the dolphin a good hiding. If it seems likely that you will not make it back to the boat or shore alive and that the dolphin might kill you then you are entitled to kill the dolphin.

To quote Roger Waters "It was either me or him"


I fully understand and would do the same but you will get some idiot who will shot one and claim this and that and think its fine...

i do however think that if you use a bangstick as was mentioned on this thread is illeagal i think then there will be *** because what were you doing with it in the first place...

please note im not saying that all spearfisherman would do this or even afew but you always get the one who will in everything in life...


Hi Steve M

I see where you are coming from and  it makes more sense now. I just get twitchy when people say that you can never defend yourself from a shark, baboon, rat,  or whatever.

It depends on the interest being protected. If the shark is eating your fish. That is your problem. If the shark wants to eat you that's his problem.

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