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 Posted: Wed Sep 8th, 2010 01:16 am
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Steelhead
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Hi Gents,

I've seen good sharks and traces on the forum which tells me the guys who caught them still have their fingers.

I about to start my quest for non-eds (sharks & rays) land based. Got all the basis covered apart from landing & hook removal. I intend releasing the catches with minimum damage to them - and myself. I am targeting 5-8ft ( gummy, bronzie, ) and assortment of rays.

Can you please advise on safe handling of sharks.

Hooks - do circle remove easier?

Where to gaff or how/when to noose?

How to remove hooks from rays - do you need to remove the spike? Can you turn them over?

Thanks guys!

 

 

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 Posted: Wed Sep 8th, 2010 05:04 am
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When using circle hooks, some guys flatten the hook part just below the main hook to pull out the hook easier, as below.

 

My 2c

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 Posted: Wed Sep 8th, 2010 05:15 am
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With rays just lift the head and stick your pliers under it and get the hook out, don't flip it onto its back as it damages the internal organs.

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 Posted: Wed Sep 8th, 2010 12:59 pm
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In Competetive angling we are forced to remove all our barbs on slides. This helps when you need to remove the hooks. A decent pair of pliers are very important.

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 Posted: Wed Sep 8th, 2010 02:09 pm
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Thanks,

Is it best to gaff behind the dorsal towards the tail?

On the beach, what is the max average shark that can be pulled out on a 1 - 1.5mm leader?

I'll surely remove the barbs.

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 Posted: Wed Sep 8th, 2010 04:00 pm
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No need to gaff, just grab it at the tail and pull.

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Tuna has landed 2 fish over 250kg with the leader and a Bronzie of 175kg and that's in this year already.

Of the bricks in reasonable water a 100-120kg fish can be landed on the rocks without a gaff, if you use a wind on.

I recommend that you remove the barb from a circle as even with the barb removed I've had to use a link hook remover a pliers and my side cutter. When it's in it's in (Barb or Not)

I recommend that you always keep a fair sized pliers attached to your belt, nothing worse than being 500m from where your kit is and the hook can't be removed and you don't have a pliers.

I made a T-Bar of 8mm round bar with a 15 x 10mm chain link welded to the end. There is a cut in the middle of the link, slip it over the cable, slide it down to the hook and you can now push or pull the hook while holding the cable and remove the hook,

This I keep in a pouch on my bucket and no matter where the fish pulls you to you can unhook it or cut the trace and release it.

The only ray I know to have serious dentures is the Spearnose, keep away because it can bit hard with a mouth full of mini raggie teeth.

If you keep to the front of the ray it can't get at you with it's spike. if you have someone with you get them to pin the tail down with a rod to keep it flailing around.

Follow the cable down and use your hand to unhook the fish, keeping it flat on the ground.

I've had my whole arm all the way down a Diamond's throat to get a hook out. JUST REMEMBER - Don't pull your arm out if it bites down just wait. Many have recurved rough jaw plates and jerking your arm out leaves a lot of very nasty scraps.

Tthe clamp down and hold, not bite but the fright factor results in jerking your arm out and a multitude of scrapes and scratches

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 Posted: Thu Sep 9th, 2010 05:21 am
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Enigma, can you post some pics for us about your hook remover tool.

I think that this is something we all need in your bag when targetting non edibles and even edibles

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Will do over the weekend.

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 Posted: Thu Sep 9th, 2010 07:50 pm
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Enigma hope you don't mind, but here is the remover from bluecity.co.za

http://bluecity.co.za/oscommerce/product_info.php?products_id=136

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 Posted: Thu Sep 9th, 2010 07:59 pm
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.....No problem, doubt Andries will mind.............bit of advertising

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 Posted: Thu Sep 9th, 2010 08:22 pm
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that is the one i have but in smaller scale! work like a charm!

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 Posted: Fri Sep 10th, 2010 05:33 am
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I need to make one for myself. Thank you for the pic Enigma

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Thanks Arno & Enigma

Going to make myself one for sure (none available here)
Excellent advice Enigma. Will be hitting the coast soon. Had a look and there is no spearnose at this end of the world. Thanks for the practical tips.

Look forward to share the outcome!

Cheers

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whats that you use to get the hook out and how does it work?........ it looks great

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 Posted: Fri Jan 14th, 2011 04:44 pm
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It's a chain link with a gap cut in it and welded to a T Bar.

Slip the wire in through the slot on the link, slide it down to the hook and while holding the wire tight you ram or pull the hook loose and the remove the trace from the sharks mouth

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 Posted: Mon Jan 17th, 2011 04:28 pm
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thanks ill give it a try!!!!!!!

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