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 Posted: Fri Aug 13th, 2010 07:13 pm
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dewaldnel14
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cotton

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 Posted: Fri Aug 13th, 2010 07:14 pm
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dewaldnel14
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excuse the drawing very rough a cabel tie works also

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 Posted: Fri Aug 13th, 2010 07:24 pm
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dewaldnel14
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cabel tie

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 Posted: Sat Jan 22nd, 2011 09:19 pm
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other one Use 3.4 teak rod if it lands and is bent properly it wount slip!! I garentee that Ask Def. he uses the ones I make.they do not move!! LOL

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 Posted: Sun Jan 23rd, 2011 07:30 am
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You dont need the cotton or ties if you bend your legs properly.

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 Posted: Mon Jan 24th, 2011 03:57 pm
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I used to use Cable ties or cotton, and it definately works, but i ended up going through 1 sinker per cast so started looking for better options. I was always worried about using heavier mono for the sinker line than the main line, otherwise i would have done that.

In the end I found that if i bend the wires out more the sinker gripped better and i was able to slide better with it dislodging less.

I also used to slide a lot more violently than i do now, ie i would yank that rod as hard as possible. I found if i take it a bit easier and slide for a bit longer, i get the baits out without dislodging the sinker and the bait still gets to the stopper ring.

One other thing is to cast out and then prepare your bait. Once the bait is complete, go back to the rod and test the sinker's hold. It should have had enough time to settle by now, but if not, pull in and try again.

When all else fails, add a cable tie.

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 Posted: Sun May 29th, 2011 05:49 pm
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scarr...is this malcom???

those graps work awsome ,i bought 40 from scarr the other day via def...

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 Posted: Sun May 29th, 2011 07:58 pm
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Scarr
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Ja its me! LOL dis goed om te hoor!!::S

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 Posted: Sun May 29th, 2011 08:29 pm
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Hiya Guys,

NEVER had to tie the graps to the sinker? If you find a sinker with thicker wire you should not have to do this.

I see loads of chaps having a problem with sinkers pulling loose mainly because they are not sure how to bend the wires to match the ground they are fishing over.

I agree that you will loose far to many sinkers if you secure the graps and the chances of a burnoff to happen when the sinker sits to tight and the shark runs off at an angle.

You sinker will sit tight while the line peels off the reel. When you tighten up you will have the coil of the non-return slide up on your main line and not the leader and this normally results in 'pop' a burn off. If not on the initial run it will happen when you tighten up and start fighting the shark.

Rather match the sinker weight, bend of the graps and your shake down better to the conditions. This way you can be assured the sinker will life when the shark takes off rather than the sinker sitting tight and causing a large bow in the line anchored between the reel and the sinker.

Another tip is to buy graps with a clip. This allows you to clip the sinker into the ring when casting and you can use sinker snoods of 0.50 on 0.55 main line or 0.45 on 0.50.

You will be amazed at how many burn-offs happen not because the slide has not reached the stopper, but becasue the sinker is so wedged?

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 Posted: Thu Jun 2nd, 2011 03:20 pm
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@ Trophy:

That makes perfect sense! And to think of it, I am sure that has happened to me on more than one occasion...

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 Posted: Sat Jun 4th, 2011 04:04 pm
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@ trophy the tieing has nothing to do with the thickness but rather the fact that if not bent right can open up

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 Posted: Wed Jun 8th, 2011 05:29 pm
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steve m wrote: @ trophy the tieing has nothing to do with the thickness but rather the fact that if not bent right can open up

HIya Steve,

Find and buy better slide grap sinkers...never had a problem with the wires opening. In fact 90% of the time they come back the way they went out?

If they do open I simply bend them back into shape and make sure before i cast that they are tight?

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 Posted: Wed Jun 8th, 2011 05:41 pm
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I have made several variations of graps with varying wires.
from 4oz to 10oz.
Some comments:
1/ Short boom graps for fine sand, long booms for coarse sand
2/ I have from 1.2mm to 2.0mm spring steel for grap wire.
I use 1.6mm SSteel tig.
The tig is softer on the bend.
Reason: I bend the wires as tight as possible towards each other where the corners lie in the sinker slot and they sit like snot.
The StSteel gives easier when pulled hard and the grap wires slip out of their slots and the sinker is loose.
3/ The slots in the sinker:
Too shallow, the wires slip out easy.
Too deep, they go now where.
Deep with and angle works for me and helps the wire slip out when pulled hard.

When sliding, the action of the sliding pull on the weight is short and pulses. The wire tensions and relaxes, repeatedly.
When pulling to free the weight, the tension on the grap wires pulls it out of it slots.

My 2c

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 Posted: Wed Jun 22nd, 2011 07:00 pm
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I find if you do tie your wires, wrapping an elastic band on works a bit better than a cable tie. It makes it a little easier for the wires to pull if you do have a pick up.

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 Posted: Thu Jun 23rd, 2011 11:50 am
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They don`t move at all I can guarantee that I got 20 from DEF thanx scarr

Scarr wrote:
other one Use 3.4 teak rod if it lands and is bent properly it wount slip!! I garentee that Ask Def. he uses the ones I make.they do not move!! LOL

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 Posted: Thu Jun 23rd, 2011 04:45 pm
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Ek is bly as julle tevrede is dit maak my baie gelukkig!!!!::S

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