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who has actualy caught a shark on a swimbait?  Rating:  Rating
 
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 Posted: Thu Jun 17th, 2010 07:16 pm
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I know many anglers that swimbaits and can only think of one or 2 that has actualy landed a shark on a swimbait!

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 Posted: Thu Jun 17th, 2010 07:40 pm
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I know Enigma has.. Surely there are pics of em eh Craig..

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 Posted: Thu Jun 17th, 2010 08:32 pm
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Does a mullet count as a swimbait? :::S

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 Posted: Thu Jun 17th, 2010 08:55 pm
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What pictures do you want to see, the swimbait and the shark... er, swimming ?

Of course will a shark pick up a live bait, the swimbait's actions is an open 'come eat me' sign for anything out there.

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 Posted: Thu Jun 17th, 2010 09:17 pm
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Chomps.. plenty!!! on sandies and smoothies.....
Havent got the heart to swim a Diamond...or any type of ray!

I know Noweeds can tell of some pretty freaky encounters with some big busses,  of small bronzies being chomped up and amongst other types of swimbaits and rigs used!

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 Posted: Fri Jun 18th, 2010 06:53 am
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All words,no pictures.....

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 Posted: Fri Jun 18th, 2010 06:58 am
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I have yet to land a fish on a swim bait. Had fish on for more than 5 hours. I have been beaten on several occasion at Hole. But then again to challenge a big nunu in the Kei with no beaches around can be quite a challenge. I reckon that Mazeppa would be a spot in the Kei with your best chance to land the fish.

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 Posted: Sat Jun 19th, 2010 10:42 am
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140 views and not one pic yet? YOH! it is worse then i thought! here are a few pics of a friend of mine getting a hiding!



Yes! that is a shimano tyrenos 50!



Yes! it is half emty!


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 Posted: Sat Jun 19th, 2010 11:23 am
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That looks like Mark Rubelli in the pic?

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 Posted: Mon Jun 21st, 2010 06:07 am
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Someone give that man a black magic harness and a fighting chair, that Marlin is on the move....

I cannot believe the success rate on swim baits is this bad.... I see what you saying now whaler, there will definately be a couple of them big boys swimming around with a trace trailing behind them...

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 Posted: Mon Jun 21st, 2010 07:43 am
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I know of a few landed and have the pics but cant post them here....

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 Posted: Mon Jun 21st, 2010 07:45 am
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If you would please SteveM

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 Posted: Mon Jun 21st, 2010 09:01 am
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Zambezi in my avatar on a milky and the most embarrasing (no photo) was a 45kg Zambi on a 50kg Diamond. The diamond got smashed by a school of Zambezis and the smallest one got the chunk with the hook in.

One which can't be spoken about,

2 x Raggies and they weren't even big, biggest was only 205cm

BUT - 30 other Swimbaits picked up - Diamonds, Garrick, Grey Sharks and 30 heart sore stories.

High rocks of KZN South Coast swam a Grey, got picked up on a Daiwa 900h filled with 100lbs Dacron, emptied in one long and slow run

Splash rock off South Coast, swam a grey got picked up and eventually lost the fish at TO Beach on the rocks in front of the point (3km North)

Next swimbait off of Splash, picked up and at about 700m cut me off on the 2 pinnacles out to sea.

MOST Thankful I've been for a bust up on a Swimbait - Swam a 15kg Hammer of Skurwebankies looking for one of the 200kg+ raggies that were being caught that week...... No indicators, nothing, rod pulled flat and when I tightened up a 400kg+ jumping fish of sorts jumped out, wrapped my 2mm leade and bust me off - Phewwwwww that was close to getting a hiding on a Tor50

There were 2 x Swimbait landed fish this season that were posted

http://www.sealine.co.za/view_topic.php?id=34790&forum_id=1&highlight=256kg+zambi

http://www.sealine.co.za/view_topic.php?id=40934&forum_id=1&highlight=mazeppa+swimbait

And along with these monsters there are also stories of stripped reels and straightened hooks

I have come to the conclusion that swimbaiting is not something to be done with std competition rated tackle.


That's why I got a Lever Drag 2 speed but as Tuna is busy finding out on the wild coast at the moment, the bigger the bait the bigger the bite and the bigger the hiding

Last edited on Mon Jun 21st, 2010 09:02 am by Enigma

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 Posted: Mon Jun 21st, 2010 09:51 am
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Enigma that is unbeleivable... a person has to ask, when is enough enough... To get spooled on a Daiwa 900H?? OH MY WORD... Must have been an amazing experience though

Enigma, any chance you could run us through some of the traces and trace materials you use for those monsters, also could you give your input on hook placements, this seems to be a grey area still

I'm beginning to think my new Tyrnos 50 and Sharke Extreme Heavy are going to become ornaments if that is the success rate..LOL

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 Posted: Mon Jun 21st, 2010 10:27 am
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This will piss some Guys off , but I wont mind if they ban the use of swim baits above 5kg.

You will get much more hidings than pics and in my book loosing a fish doesn't make us hero's.Whats the difference than shooting a buck in the stomach or hooking a monster and leaving it trailing 300m of line behind it.Sorry that's the reality.

I dont like swim baits offcourse a shad or mullet for cob or leervis is another story, those fish can be landed.

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Enigma wrote: ...
Splash rock off South Coast, swam a grey got picked up and eventually lost the fish at TO Beach on the rocks in front of the point (3km North)
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BLIKEMMER !!! Now that is 1 far walk with a fish on and not the easiest of walks to get around and over all of the rocks in between Splash and TO ... I mean, 1stly you have to get from Splash to Suicide rock, then around the point, across Lucky dip, around beach point, across the beach with all the bathers, through the lagoon, along about 1.5km of jagged rocks and only then do you get to TO ...

BIG ... ::respekt: !!!

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Splash rock off South Coast, swam a grey got picked up and eventually lost the fish at TO Beach on the rocks in front of the point (3km North)
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BLIKEMMER !!! Now that is 1 far walk with a fish on and not the easiest of walks to get around and over all of the rocks in between Splash and TO ... I mean, 1stly you have to get from Splash to Suicide rock, then around the point, across Lucky dip, around beach point, across the beach with all the bathers, through the lagoon, along about 1.5km of jagged rocks and only then do you get to TO ...

BIG ... ::respekt: !!!


To Suicide not a problem as is it not to Lucky dip but needed help to get the line across to the island in front of the NSRI

Shark was inside the nets but outside the lone rock on the beach. Moved off the island once it was past the lone rock.

Night time so no bathers or boats launching. Made it pas the 2nd long gully before I realised I was on the way to a hiding of absolute catastrophic proportions so I held tight and got cut off.

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This will piss some Guys off , but I wont mind if they ban the use of swim baits above 5kg.

You will get much more hidings than pics and in my book loosing a fish doesn't make us hero's.Whats the difference than shooting a buck in the stomach or hooking a monster and leaving it trailing 300m of line behind it.Sorry that's the reality.

I dont like swim baits offcourse a shad or mullet for cob or leervis is another story, those fish can be landed.


I would venture to say ban swimbaits on standard fishing tackle (below 0.60mm and 50lbs braid) even with a 5kg< you'll probably lose 4 out of 5 fights.

I only ever fished swimbaits on standard tackle an learnt that it is a recipe for disaster, as you rightly say but only lost leaders or terminal rig never a 300m+

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Enigma that is unbeleivable... a person has to ask, when is enough enough... To get spooled on a Daiwa 900H?? OH MY WORD... Must have been an amazing experience though

Enigma, any chance you could run us through some of the traces and trace materials you use for those monsters, also could you give your input on hook placements, this seems to be a grey area still

I'm beginning to think my new Tyrnos 50 and Sharke Extreme Heavy are going to become ornaments if that is the success rate..LOL


Rays were hooked 1 in each wing, we were fishing Zambezis, let him chow down and you know when he finds the hook, the tempo goes mad.

Edibles i have swum i have just used 1 x 16/0 or 20/0 circle in the back 1/3 of the bait and if it wasn't taken i ate the bait on the braai.

Each of the small sharks I have sent out and that were taken I used 1 hook at the dorsal (trace cable tied at the tail) or one in the dorsal and 1 in the interdorsal. The scary thing here is that not one missed in hooking the fish and not one was first bitten.

The bait got skittish then rod was pulled flat, feed out 30-50m of line and tighten up VAS. In the rig section there are some good pics and description of the rigs there by Trophy.

My basic rig is 2 x 14/0 hooks for shark and rays for bait on 440lbs steel attached to a 3/0 Japanese power swivel.

I use the same 440lbs steel but with 1 x 16/0 or 20/0 circle with edibles.

I used 2mm windons previously but have since found that the livebait swims just as well with the 400lbs cable windon.

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 Posted: Mon Jun 21st, 2010 05:32 pm
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Trophy got his pb raggie on a smoothound as a swimbait!!

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