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 Posted: Tue Mar 6th, 2007 09:55 pm
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mumro
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hi guys my name is mumro an im an alchoholic....lol just kidding

im a newbie to surf fishing and would like a few tips and tricks

1:>what rod should i buy-lenght,composite,action

2:>what reel should i buy

ive done some fishing on the" bay of plenty"pier in central durban,i was using a shimano corsair reel,with a 7ft bass rod.I caught 2 grunters of about 2kg and a pompano of 2,4kg.I luv forums and im a member of a few,i hope i can get info on this 1 as i have on the others.I am a die hard bass angler,i luv fly fishing for yellows,but am really interested in surf angling......hoping to get some good feedback::H

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 Posted: Tue Mar 6th, 2007 11:51 pm
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Howzit Mum

Lol

Welcome bru hope i can help although i'm no pro 

I think the first thing you need to do is decide what sort of fishing you wana do most 

I mean sea fishing that is ......

Then once you've decide that you can choose maybe something for that particular purpose eg. blue marlon hmg or asassin hmg for the big guys then you need to know weather u want 3 pcs or single.

My advise is in the beginning you need to buy an all round rod some thing that you can do everything with.....

My choice for you would be the beach master its reasonably priced good value also it can handle big fish as well as normal edible fish that is my choice for you but you  have to be comfortable with what outfit you choose if possible get the tackle shop to let you demo it im not sure if they would but hey its worth the try good luck .....

riymos

 

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 Posted: Wed Mar 7th, 2007 12:05 am
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hey mum

i agree with riymos totally.once you have decided on what you intend targetting the decision would be alot easier.now adays rods n reels are extremely specialised in their application.

a trip to a leading tackle dealer should make your selection alot easier.

regards

shaveen:) 

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 Posted: Wed Mar 7th, 2007 10:18 am
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hOWZIT

JUST to give yuo my experience, when i fist started fishing i used on of those cheap R200 okuma rod and reel combo. Thereafter with learning more i moved to a shimano 20 40 (which is still my favorite). I think fisherman are like woman and shopping. the more we see others have and newer models the more we want. teh ESA guys dont help either. most of the common reels today are made using advances technology. How many times do you get stripped of all your line. It only almost happeneed to me once in teh last 5 years(unless im a bad angler)i then moved to an SL 50 (which i personally dont like but others swear by) and tehn to a torium and then to a trinidad 30. rod from a posiedon, asssain hea, elbe waverrunner and then to teh Blade HMG.

MY advice is choose a reel for the fishing you want to do, an alrounder is best. later on you might want to target sharks, then you still have the neccessary tackle. teh way i have done it is too costly, and you wont need to ahve all.

Many of us are manipulated by advertising.

How many times have you heard a tackle shop for example saying teh kingfisher braid is terrible, then you realise its just because they dont keep kingfisher products. those tackle shops that only keep berkley swear that other lure brands are not as good, its about keeping sponsors happy.

i have been personnaly given the worst advice by tackle shops. Eg teh assasin heavy and Blade standard is about R200 difference. but the guy from bassil manning insisted there is no other rod within a similar price range of teh assasin heavy. a week later i found out that the Blade standard is R200 more. i was very angry. cos i kept on asking him. eventually i bought it and when to spend close to R4000 for a blade HMG.if they advise properly i would not have spent so much.

So be careful when buying tackle

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 Posted: Wed Mar 7th, 2007 11:01 am
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Blade, i couldnt have said it better myself. You are right on the money...:first

Mumro from my own experience with Surf rods, id say the ieal rod to start of with would be the Assasin Beach Master. I have one and i must say its a good all rounder. Its not in the league of your Blades and HMG rods, but it is more than capable of handling your average size shark.

I would say go with that rod matched with a Shimano Toirum 30. That to me is a very capable outfit. You would be able to tackle almost anything the sea throws at you. At the end its what is comfortable in your hands that matters.

Hope this helps you

Cheers

Nivi4ZN :sha

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 Posted: Wed Mar 7th, 2007 11:15 am
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are these one piece rods or more?are they light?:)

Last edited on Wed Mar 7th, 2007 11:15 am by mumro

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 Posted: Wed Mar 7th, 2007 11:32 am
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3 piece, i think theres an extra tip as well. fairly light.

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 Posted: Wed Mar 7th, 2007 04:36 pm
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guys ive just been to the tackle store ive seen a few rods n reels,but the ones that impressed me the most was

1>shimano exhage rod...there were 2 the 12ft 3pc and then the 14ft 3pcs....i like the 12 ft because its light.....what do you guys reckon?

2>there were 3 reels that i liked the shimano trinidad 30,daiwa saltiga 50,daiwa grandwave......

please advise on what to buy...thanx guys;)

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 Posted: Wed Mar 7th, 2007 04:58 pm
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WOw WOW Wo

Please dont rush. You got match a 14 ft rod with these reels. trinidad and saltiga if for really big fish.sharks. teh grandwave is inbetween.

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 Posted: Wed Mar 7th, 2007 04:58 pm
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mum

 

i think if you like the 12 ft

then the trinada 30 is good

but hey if you like the saltiga 50 then go for it i think its the best. but for an allround package i mean eds and non eds its to much, i think go for the saltiga 40 the combo would be much better. 40 and the 12ft balances the outfit better.

you dont want two put too big a reel on a med action rod it defeats the purpose.

hope ive been of some help .

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 Posted: Wed Mar 7th, 2007 05:16 pm
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Hi Guys

OK I have recently acquired the Shimano Exage 1224 rod which I use with a Penn 505HS that I'm quite new to using, having been an old KP guy in my KZN days, and Diawa Jupiter 5000 Coffee Grinder when first down here because I got lazy. :shock:

I'm quite happy with the rod and reel as a combo and it feels right.  Now for the interesting part - I've been a good boy and only used 2ounce sinker on the light tip, 3 ounce on the medium tip and 4 ounce on the heavy tip, my only problem is 70m seems about MAX distance I can cast with the heavy and the 4 ounce sinker.  That includes hanging the sinker and the hook to improve the aerodynamics.

Any ideas or tips that can get me that little bit further out?

 

Thanks

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 Posted: Wed Mar 7th, 2007 05:59 pm
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Hey Coxy

What is the max weight for your heavy tip? Also what casting action do you use?

Cheers

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 Posted: Wed Mar 7th, 2007 06:26 pm
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Hey guys. I really dont think you should put a trinidad 30 on a 12 ft rod. firstly you gona use heavy sinkers to carry the line a good distance, as teh line is going to be of a thicker diameter. You need a good reaction rod to match teh trinidad. what do you guys feel

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 Posted: Wed Mar 7th, 2007 06:27 pm
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YOu could use the 12 ft rod with the TN 30 if yu swimming out live sharks as bait. for this type of fishing you dont need a long rod nor are you casting sinkers miles. you need a short robust rod

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 Posted: Wed Mar 7th, 2007 06:42 pm
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Hi Mum

Blade has given you some excellent advice......and for free.....If you want to start surf fishing (totally different from bass fishing), I suggest that you take Blades advice and go for something more average. I personally use a 14 ft Kingfisher Delux..weighted tip 5 to 6 ounce......and I fished all round with that ( However that is a single piece...not what you are lookig for) and I have caught everything from pinkies to sharks....just need to test it on a 150kg monster though......

My suggestion to you is go for a 14 ft rod, cos sooner or later the bug is gonna get you, and you will start looking for FURTHER DISTANCE when casting....also a 14ft makes handling any fish a lot easier from the surf. Reels . I would suggest the  Daiwa Grandwave 40/50,  Saltist 40/50 or the Shimano Torium ....all have proven themselves....and I re-iterate what Blade has said.....don't fall for all the marketing gimmicks.....just buy what you are happy and comfortable with....

Happy hunting

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 Posted: Wed Mar 7th, 2007 07:33 pm
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trinidad or saltiga on a 12ft rod...alot of cheek.

its like putting 18 inch tyres on a mini.

my 2c

regards

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 Posted: Wed Mar 7th, 2007 07:45 pm
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thanx for all the help guys:)

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 Posted: Wed Mar 7th, 2007 10:00 pm
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oh forgot...before i buy just check these prices to c if im being ripped off

1>shimano 12ft=R850

2>shimano 14ft=R1000

trinidad 30 R2700

torium 30 R1200

daiwa saltiga 50 R3700

daiwa saltist 40 R1400

daiwa saltist 50 R1500

please keep me posted........thanxxx:)

 

 

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 Posted: Thu Mar 8th, 2007 09:01 am
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To get more distance, aim high and like other things that you enjoy put your shoulders and back into it, you should know how to do that or has marrige made you soft?????:squid1

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howzit buckled....good 1::H

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