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 Posted: Tue May 18th, 2010 10:42 am
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Does anyone have the new bait rocket by Korda (MK11 Skyliner)?  I have the old Skyliner rocket and its done me very well. I'm looking at the new version as it is more stable in-flight, esp. in crosswinds, etc...

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 Posted: Wed May 19th, 2010 06:18 am
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No mate - ain't used it !!!

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 Posted: Thu May 20th, 2010 03:44 am
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Tx BP... seems no-one else uses bait rockets these days anymore, lol! The "in" thing these days is boating out one's baits. Come to think of it, I cant remember when last I have seen anyone on the bank doing spodding. Huh! lol.

There's just that little extra bit of satisfaction that one feels when you know you've done your markerfloating, spodding and casting, and then catching off the efforts. Or what?:dude:

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 Posted: Thu May 20th, 2010 03:49 am
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There is more ways to bait a spot than just a spod. I prefer pva bags and a kettie. Alternatively a throwing stick and then the HOG.

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 Posted: Thu May 20th, 2010 04:06 am
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Natuurlik KUSAF, ek hoor wat jy se. Maar spodding is baie meer effektief as jy bv. 2kg se particles op n spot wil voer op 60m of dalk verder. Hoe gaan mens dit regkry met PVA sakkies? En n throwing stick kan ook net boilies gooi.
Ek gebruik nou en dan n kettie om n spot op te bait maar dit het ook limits, en nie maklik om spot "tight" te bait verder as bv. 20m nie. Tensy jy net met boilies voer...

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I agree - Boating is all well and good but it makes for a lazy angler "SOME OF THE TIME" & YES some situations require a boat !! Ok guys so don't shoot from the hip !!

Right - I do prefer the above methods fished tight to a marker - I'm no master with the throwing stick at times so I go tight with pva or kettie & scatter a bit in the areas with the stick.

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 Posted: Thu May 20th, 2010 08:37 am
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nope havnt used it either but i did just buy a really funky thing,, a gardener glow in the dark rocket, just needs a few wholes and it will be ready for ction

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 Posted: Thu May 20th, 2010 12:57 pm
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I have used a spod in the past and actually enjoy using it... agree not many people cast around the bank, still my prefered option... I have no idea which one it is (black plastic with red front), which is why I didn't respond... now to work on the marker and accurate casting etc... got me a spod rod and reel for the task... ready to go...

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 Posted: Thu May 20th, 2010 01:35 pm
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I get my marker with bait balls and the lot to 60m dead acurately. Further than 60m I will go with boatcraft. Fishing the margins the HOG.

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I love my spodding and in the St Lawrence where we fished a money tournament we spodded for 14-18 hours a day on the peg.

There is definitely an advantage with the spod, especially in long sessions in that the Carp come to associate the splash with feeding.

I've had great success in Tzaneen while spodding at 100m. We fed on a program, same 4 time sessions every day and eventually on day 4 when the first rocket hit the water the fish were rolling on the surface and if you left the rocket on the spot they would actually bump the rocket for particles to fall out (put binder in with the hemp and maples and they knocked it around for 2 minutes to get everything out.

I haven't seen a Skyliner II but we use the Korda Skyraider for long range spodding and we have used the Skyrader to 140m+ with 100lbs Whiplash leader and 30lbs Whiplash

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Now that is interesting, as everyone I know that has fished Tzaneen used a boat there... But then what is also interesting is that some guys have outfished others by fishing just 30m out!

I still think markerfloat and spod fishing is highly underrated. And I think if you know your dam well enough you dont need a boat anymore if you are fishing areas that are within casting range. Its amazing how nice it is sometimes not to have to set up the whole boat, lol!

How many of you would agree that there is more skill involved in finding features by markerfloat and accurate spodding, than doing it using a boat?  ;)

This winter I am fishing my local dam, and will be spodding to the areas I know produces the goods... Should be fun!

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I love marker float work but I hate spodding. As mentioned above I do cast to short structure but I dont feel confident in trying to get maximum distance and not being able to be spot on with the cast.

Ive seen a couple of 30's fron Fanie out of the margins. But its the age old debate of trying to fish the margins on the other side and the guy on that end trying to fish to your margins.

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Lol, that is true! I still see guys fishing all the way to the opposite margins, and overlooking the margins right under their noses. But then again at some dams the margins are barren and shallow... e.g. DD public side, Vaal, etc.

I must agree as well, the actual cast of the hookbait to the exact spot is a mission sometimes. And there's always that little thought in the back of your mind everytime, "did it land on the bottom ok, or did it tangle..." lol.

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I have never seen what the attraction is of fishing the opposite margins in any and every lake - constantly boating baits out....

Yes I've also boated too but have had gr8 success 50m's out casting .... I know of a 50lb and a 39lb that came out from the margins !!!

I'm with U MC on the hookbait issue - that's why I use a 2bait + PVA stringer or dried particles in PVA to prevent tangles if I'm not using stiff rigs !!!

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 Posted: Fri May 21st, 2010 06:04 am
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I also use PVA bags, and sometimes pva nuggets to prevent tangles. It works well, but you know how we speci-okes are, you still wonder about your hookbait down in the depths, lol!

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Hey that's the advantage of boat craft ... almost perfect presentations.

BTW my bud has a bait boat he's not using - maybe I should ask him for it.. !!

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Gebryk dit nog al baie wanneer ek na boom stompe en goed hengel.  Maar dit raak baie werk as jy op 100m + begin spodding doen.

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I still believe the spod is the best way to condition fish in the swim to your spots.  The plonking down of the rocket signals food.

It's also in my personal opinion a good thing to consistently put smaller amounts of feed into the swim to keep the fish active and constantly looking for food (yes can be done with the boat) but with the boat guys often over feed with each feed, the fish gorge themselves and return 6 hours later.

The European anglers spend a lot of time and effort into spodding techniques and accuracy.  Fishing tight on the marker concentrates the feeding fish into an area and if your bait is presented correctly in the feed you're all but guaranteed a take.

Mouse trap feeding with the spod is also another big plus.  I like to clip the spod line at a range corresponding to an under water feature and then cast 2 or 3 rockets onto the feature, with the help of a distant target point.  Then leave the rocket floating on the water and immediately put your target practice to good use and cast your bait and PVA right next to the floating rocket.

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Het vandag na die 1 man hier in Frangkryk gestaan en kyk terwyl hy besig was met spodding. Hy het 2 keur die merkker flout raak ge gooi terwyl hy besig was. Die res het in 'n 3m radios om die merkker flout geval. Hy het 2 plekke so gevoer 1 op +- 100m  en die ander plek was op +- 150m. Die man gooi daai ding dat hy naderhand water vrae. 

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