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 Posted: Mon May 3rd, 2010 02:17 pm
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ChriDry
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Ek het na die seewater manne se forum gekyk en wonder of ons nie dalk amper dieselfde formaat as hulle kan begin soos hieronder nie.
Ek dink dit sal ons wat nog baie het om te leer, help, veral as ons illustrasies het sodat jy fisies kan sien hoe lyk die onderstaande. Daar is miskien nog een of twee meer sub forums wat dalk bygevoeg kan word???

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 Posted: Mon May 3rd, 2010 02:33 pm
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Otto
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I have been trying to get hold of the Fox Guide to Specimen Angling since November 2009, but to no avail. Apparently the book is distributed by Sensation but they have no stock. Any help in trying to locate a supplier that has stock will be appreciated.

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 Posted: Mon May 3rd, 2010 02:50 pm
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charlie carp
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ive got the fox rig guide printed and binded, if ur willing to pay postage ill be more than happy to post it to you, unfortunately its not in colour

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 Posted: Tue May 4th, 2010 05:27 am
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Not really stronger - just safer ... same grinner knot ..BUT is your grinner knot looped twice over the leadcore ??

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 Posted: Tue May 4th, 2010 06:42 am
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Basspro... no, only once, suppose twice would strengthen the point of contact with the lead core... used to loop twice when using a double blood knot, not sure why I stopped when I moved over to using grinner... will start doing so again... out of interest can you explain why the spliced option is safer?

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 Posted: Tue May 4th, 2010 07:17 am
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For me I'd say when you hold down on the loop end of leadcore and your knot it feels a tad "thicker" than the other method -

The 5 turn grinner thro' the leadcore looks as if the knot is in line with the leadcore making it easier for leads & beads to slip over ... It took some practice for me to get it right but I prefer this method !!!

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 Posted: Tue May 4th, 2010 08:50 am
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Thanks, will give it a try and see...

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 Posted: Tue May 4th, 2010 08:52 am
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charlie carp wrote: ive got the fox rig guide printed and binded, if ur willing to pay postage ill be more than happy to post it to you, unfortunately its not in colour

Please pm me with your tel no please.

Tx

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 Posted: Wed May 5th, 2010 02:43 am
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siocnarf
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I am more worried about what is on the hooklink side of the leadcore than on the mainline side of the leadcore.
Your hooklink material should always be the weakest link. If it breaks the carp only swims around with a short hooklink.
It does not matter which knot you are using on the mainline side of the leadcore, if your mainline breaks the carp is towing at least a 1 meter deathtrap along. The lead may have been dropped or the safety clip slid over the knot, it is still dangerous.
Always make sure that your hooklink material is the first to go.

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 Posted: Wed May 5th, 2010 05:19 am
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Valid point, need to check things... my current set up, I use 25lb braid on main line, 45lb lead core and my hooklink is 25lb coated braid... looking at this combo, not that safe is it... what poundage hooklink should I go for, or should I change my setup completely... open to suggestions?

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 Posted: Wed May 5th, 2010 07:42 am
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Nothing wrong with 25lb ........ !!!!

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 Posted: Wed May 5th, 2010 09:29 am
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Naruto
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Question: 15lbs mono mainline, sliding weight and 9lbs hooklink? Is it too little?

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 Posted: Thu May 6th, 2010 01:24 am
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Naruto, in my opinion yes, especially if you plan on targeting bigger fish... you don't want to hook into a good fish, and have it snap your line off and dragging it through the water... thinking more from a carp safety perspective than loosing the fish...

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 Posted: Thu May 6th, 2010 06:41 am
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If you have a mono or a florocarbon leader, you can also splice your leadcore into a loop, and make a double overhand loop in your main line. feed your mainline through the loop of the leadcore, and then feed your hooklink end leadcore through the mainline loop. pull back on both ends. i think this is the most common way of attaching Mainline to leadcore.

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 Posted: Mon May 10th, 2010 12:57 pm
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Hi Naruto..

I know a little about specimen fishing, and until you have bought yourself a rubber duck and a fish finder and some shimano LC`s you are going to have settle for a mixture of coventional mixed with specimen.

I will however compile something for you as this is the same position i find myself in as my innitial interest in carp fishing was specimen orientated, until i realised the implications.

So what i can offer you should be helpfull, just give me a little time....

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Hi Naruto.

Was busy with your post and my cameras battery went flat so just need to charge it first...! Will post tonight..

Sorry took so long..

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 Posted: Wed Jun 2nd, 2010 06:02 am
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 Posted: Wed Jun 2nd, 2010 12:38 pm
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Hey Pappi..!

He he....

Well the reason i say that, is because it`s my understanding that for one to realy target the biggest fish in the dam you need to map out your swin with a boat and a fishfinder to locate suitable structure and then you would need the line capcity to beable to fish at 5 or 600m in for instance the origional river bed which would be a good place to find those realy big fish ext ext..

But that is just my understanding thus far and i`m new to carp fishing, so i`m all ear`s..!

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 Posted: Wed Jun 2nd, 2010 01:54 pm
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Naruto although i`m no expert i just wanted to share with you what i have learnt.

So nothing is a hard and fast rule so to speak..

These are the swivels that you can buy specificaly for these safety clips.

I like the bottom one because you can change your hooklink by simply swapping it, no tying of knots ext ext..

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 Posted: Wed Jun 2nd, 2010 02:03 pm
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What i think is a good idea is to drill a hole through the clip to secure your swivel so that  if it does get hooked up. The whole clip dosn`t come free from the swivel. You will see what i`m talking about when you build the rig yourself..

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