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 Posted: Tue Feb 2nd, 2010 04:20 am $report_button
   
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jensent
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Hi Guys,

Check this out - if you run a boat, fish, dive and get crayfish, then you are in for R1800 per year - more than triple what you currently pay.  I think there is an additional levy per vessel, but not too sure.

Cheers,

Tony

 

Attachment: Gazzete- Increase Notice.pdf (Downloaded 107 times)

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 Posted: Tue Feb 2nd, 2010 04:52 am $report_button
   
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They are not shy are they, R200 for a fishing license. And for which mp's children are they using this money?

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 Posted: Tue Feb 2nd, 2010 05:13 am $report_button
   
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Many wives...many children....lol

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 Posted: Tue Feb 2nd, 2010 07:08 am $report_button
   
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I do not mind paying, as long as they can justify where they are spending it...and it must be transparent to us all.

If it is going into Vidal's park manager's new mansion or cruiser, then I think we should start worrying :-)

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 Posted: Tue Feb 2nd, 2010 07:23 am $report_button
   
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Of course it's all going toward their corrupt lifestyle, just as every cent of our taxes has gone into funding it. There is no such thing as transparency and morals with this govt.

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 Posted: Tue Feb 2nd, 2010 07:29 am $report_button
   
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Hi Guys,

Got this response from Corry Versluis on this:

Hi Tony,

Yup, got the "good" news yesterday.

At least SAUFF, as the registered and recognised body can fight this due our strength in numbers.

Oh wait, 90% of spearos/divers in SA aren't members of SAUFF because they:
1) Don't care,
2) Haven't joined because SAUFF "only caters for the competitive divers,
3) Haven't heard of SAUFF, or,
4) combination of or all of the above.

SAUFF has for 3 years now been fighting in the trenches to prevent this exact type of legislation. We have warned, prohesied, begged, pleaded all to no avail.

Currently SAUFF membership sits at ~130 members. In 2007 almost 10 000 Spearfishing and Crayfishing licences were sold. Take it that alot of them were one diver getting two, but there still are thousands of divers out there who we need to join otherwise those pushing legislation will not even bat an eye our way.


So the moral of the story for all you spearos out there is to join SAUFF to help them fight this on our behalf.  You can register at http://www.sauff.co.za.

As Nike says: Just do it, it's a lot cheaper than new licenses now!

 

Last edited on Tue Feb 2nd, 2010 07:31 am by jensent

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 Posted: Tue Feb 2nd, 2010 09:32 am $report_button
   
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Angus wrote: Many wives...many children....lol

Haha, spot on there Angus!!
And none of those children will ever need a spearo licence, *************
From what I see on riverbanks and shorelines, 98% of licences are held by law abiding ******** who mostly keep to size limits, and are more likey to conserve by catching and releasing!! Most other take 20cm Steenbras in bag loads out of estuaries. They have no idea on size/bag limits and nor do they care!!

Until a credible MCM unit is put into place to
  • Check anglers licences
  • Inforce/confiscate equipment and press charges
I believe that any fee is a total waste of your money!

 

Please refrain from Racist remarks.
Admin


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 Posted: Tue Feb 2nd, 2010 11:23 am $report_button
   
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I think they are smoking some good stuff.

Unless someone makes representation, before 1 March, this will be law.

 

 

 

 

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 Posted: Tue Feb 2nd, 2010 11:36 am $report_button
   
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There are nearly 13,000 members on Sealine all with licenses, can we not as a forum lodge a complaint to the minister?


Work out what income will be generated just from Sealine  


ADMIN?????????????

 

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 Posted: Tue Feb 2nd, 2010 11:55 am $report_button
   
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Can I be a subsistence fisher? R6 a year and they take more fish, bait etc than we do! It's a joke

B-Vista if you use the Rod licence @ R200 it'll be R260000. Some members are spearos @R300.

Jensent, you havent included each river has it's own permit at R300 odd and mooring. We in the eastern cape need 3 seperate permits for our 3 rivers.
Nuts, or too close to Umtata?

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 Posted: Tue Feb 2nd, 2010 11:59 am $report_button
   
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MOGGY
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Mana: 
There is another thread on the fishing forum.

SAUFF is so active that their website still has the 2008 president's report.

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 Posted: Wed Feb 3rd, 2010 05:43 am $report_button
   
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Hi Guys,

Sorry, the SAUFF site is not active.  You can rather access through http://www.saspearoranking.co.za to have a look and register.

It is not a lot of money to spend, and well worth it for spearfishing in SA.  It also means you can claim an SA record, should you be so lucky, and compete at Nationals should the competitive bug grab you.  You also get a monthly newsletter with updates on spearfishing in SA, new records, nationals, and any legislative issues being addressed.  It iw worthwhile knowing what is going on.

There are a bunch of very good guys at SAUFF working hard for us, they need our support.

Cheers,

Tony

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 Posted: Wed Feb 3rd, 2010 06:45 am $report_button
   
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SAUFF is so active in the trenches that their website still reflects the 2008 presidents address.

Don't rely too much on them to support you.

I used to be a member of SAUU and my wife was secretary for 10 years.

When she left, not so much as thank you.

 

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 Posted: Wed Feb 3rd, 2010 10:54 am $report_button
   
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Hi Marius,

I hear you, that is not nice.  I met you & Julie a few times at Interclubs in the early 90's, and Julie always did loads for SA diving.  I pulled James Lawson-Smith out from a blackout in PE in '92, I think, and spoke to Julie quite a bit at the time as well, so I understand how much effort she put in.

But isn't it largely a completely new bunch of folks there now?  From what I've seen, the guys are really working at being professional and making a difference.  Is it not maybe time to let bygones be bygones?

Cheers,

Tony

Last edited on Wed Feb 3rd, 2010 11:00 am by jensent

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 Posted: Wed Feb 3rd, 2010 11:12 am $report_button
   
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We pulled Len de Beer out, during a trial, also blacked out.

It is the same basic guys and there are a lot of "professional " spearos, making a living out of selling fish.

The idee of joining some body is good, because at least you get represented.

I am with SADSAA, through the clubs that I belong to, but I spear more than fish.

The guys at Noordhoek should join SAUFF.

I have asked Noordhoek as a club to object and we are taking this licensing isuue up from a SADSAA provincial and national level.

 

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 Posted: Wed Feb 3rd, 2010 04:17 pm $report_button
   
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They're trying to hogtie the fishermen so that their Chinese buddies can get even closer to the beach with the trawlers.

One day sood they'll be taking okes on boards and skis as bycatch.

Lekker to pay exorbitant fees to fish were there aren't any left!!!!!

Guffmehnt, you suck!.

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 Posted: Thu Feb 4th, 2010 07:29 am $report_button
   
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Guys is this actually real,is it true????????

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 Posted: Thu Feb 4th, 2010 07:50 am $report_button
   
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These are PROPOSED values.  Please download the document, read it, and comment as requested.  The more comment they get from more of us, the better.

Please don't rant in your mail to them.  Use moderate, clear, calm language, and we will get a better response.  And try to present a decent, logical argument.

Cheers,

Tony

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 Posted: Thu Feb 4th, 2010 08:52 am $report_button
   
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This fee increase is outrageous....:swear

Speaking as a fishing charter operator in KZN, you can't expect the clients to fork out a substantial amount of money for a day's marlin fishing AND then tell them that they need a fishing licence, at a hefty fee..... all for a single day's fishing.

At the end of the day we are going to lose business due to it all just getting too expensive for the client to afford.

MCM needs a wake-up call....the fees are meant to be used to upgrade our Coastal Parks, but to this day I am yet to see Sodwana Bay getting the upgrade and care it needs^^.. I'm all for the increase IF it is used accordingly, but not to fill up some idiot minister's beemer!

My opinion...

Peter.

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 Posted: Fri Feb 5th, 2010 09:15 am $report_button
   
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WOW from R75 a licence to R200

Talk about an inflation beater, gotto support a winner::S

The problem I have with SAUFF is that they just don't reply to any email that I've sent them (both regional and national)

 

I must also add that the government is trying (and succeeding) in turning me into a couch potatoe. First they shortend the diving season, then they took away the perlemoen and now they want to rip the @r$ehloe out of the chicken !!!!!

But then again we only have ourselves to blame. If the report in Ski-Boat magazine is anything to go by, the amount of money that "fishing" contributes to the economy is so big , why cant the governmint create a bandwagon, jump on it and milk the cow on all four tits

Thats my two cents worth

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