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 Posted: Wed Nov 14th, 2007 10:07 am
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I read in a angling book, that you can use a barbel fillet for cob if you keep catching barbel all the time when cob are around. Apparently barbel wont take their own, but cob will. Seeing that there are alot of barbel in the falsebay area, has anyone tested this theory. any comments?

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 Posted: Wed Nov 14th, 2007 02:41 pm
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jackal my china i have asked the same thing of a number of okes. the best i can tell you is that the old salts used to swear by it as a deadly bait and then it fell out of favour. the next time i'm at macassar i'm going to definitely try it, just got to do it really carefully....

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 Posted: Wed Nov 14th, 2007 03:15 pm
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Hi Guys
Tried it before (Gordons bay harbour). Barbel eat anything... Caught nearly 15 barbel, all on barbel fillet. If they are around you'll catch them, no matter wat bait you try!

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 Posted: Wed Nov 14th, 2007 08:23 pm
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I tried a Barbel fillet at Dawidskraal earlier this year. The Barbel were biting shot for shot and probably having read it in the same book as you, I filleted one and put a spare rod out.

The whole evening and till the next morning we caught Barbers, Skaamies, Shad and Kob, but the Barber fillet came out untouched after 7 or 8 hours of recasting the same bait. So, my opinion has then to be that the guy that wrote the book is working on hearsay and doesn't know what he is talking about.

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 Posted: Wed Nov 14th, 2007 08:28 pm
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It's like so many people telling me what a deadly bait Maasbanker is. Please!! We've had Maasbankers swimming for hours on our spare rods more times than I care to remember and nothing, ever! If you fillet one, hello Skaamies! And thats it.

So scratch that myth too, there's better baits to use.

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 Posted: Thu Nov 15th, 2007 05:12 am
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mickey i disagree. maasbanker has been a deadly bait for me time and time again...

 

fishing is a crazy mixed up world...got to love it!

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 Posted: Thu Nov 15th, 2007 07:00 am
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My foto shows the result of a live maasbanker off gansbaai harbour wall.I have caught nice Valies off there too and huge skamies on live maasbanker.

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 Posted: Thu Nov 15th, 2007 07:38 am
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Mantis wrote: mickey i disagree. maasbanker has been a deadly bait for me time and time again...

 

fishing is a crazy mixed up world...got to love it!


Hi

Agreed Mantis.  Had some really nice catches of late with the maasbanker baits.  Haven't tried any livies yet, so can't comment, but some nice smoothhounds and cob on the "pill" using maasbanker/chokka combo.

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 Posted: Thu Nov 15th, 2007 07:49 am
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Hey Jakkal

From my limited experience of only using the barbel fillet once, I did not have a positive experience.  Fishing the Goukou river mouth in Stilbaai, I caught at least 4 barbel (after the 15 caught on bloodworm that preceeded it) on barbel fillet.  Whether this would apply to all areas, I don't know, but I have seen cob going for barbel fillet as well.

In the absense of any clear indication that barbel fillet actually repels the advances of other barbel, I will most probably continue using my other baits and hope the critters go away. 

While on the topic of the sea barbel, I implore all the guys to treat these species as any other species coming from the ocean.  DO NOT kill them as you fear being stung and if you handle them properly, the likelihood of getting stung is almost zero.

Steps

# Place the barbel on the wet sand, flat on its belly

# Starting at it's head, slide your index and middle finger over the barbel

# Let the barbel's spine rest between these two fingers

# Use you thumb and pinky finger around the side of the head covering the eyes with you hand

In this way, you are able to comfortable take out the hook without hurting or killing the fish that we see all to often down here in the Cape.  :(

ciao

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 Posted: Thu Nov 15th, 2007 08:35 am
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karma that is one the best posts i have seen in ages. genuine. i hate it when guys kill blaasoppies, barbel, skaamies etc. It serves no purpose and always reminds me of kids terrorising insects with a magnifying glass.

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 Posted: Thu Nov 15th, 2007 08:41 am
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Good info and positive stuff here boys and girls...

Just a quick question, sorry if its a stupid one... What are you guys talking about when you refer to "Skaamies" ??? Sorry, ex banana boy living in the cape...
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 Posted: Thu Nov 15th, 2007 08:56 am
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donut sharks/shy sharks the little pests that cover their face with their tails when they come out the water...

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 Posted: Thu Nov 15th, 2007 08:59 am
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ahhhh... Thanks Mantis.... One more piece of info to chuck into the fishing filofax!! ;-)

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KLIPVIS wrote: My foto shows the result of a live maasbanker off gansbaai harbour wall.I have caught nice Valies off there too and huge skamies on live maasbanker.

Nou lieg jy mos Stinky na Fishhhh…. Daai 2.7kg kabeljou het jy op chokka gevang,  en net n goeie fotograaf soos ek kan hom na n 16kg een laat lyk!!!

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Expat jy soek vir K , lyk my ons enigste dame gee jou n run vir jou money , check Corlia Niemand !

OK sy wen my ook , maar ek is nie n pro nie.

PS , die vis was 20kg , so baie goeie fotografie daar.die 16kg was gevang op n livie.

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KLIPVIS wrote: Expat jy soek vir K , lyk my ons enigste dame gee jou n run vir jou money , check Corlia Niemand !

OK sy wen my ook , maar ek is nie n pro nie.

PS , die vis was 20kg , so baie goeie fotografie daar.die 16kg was gevang op n livie.


Ja ek sien sy is  ook voor al julle X WP hengelaars  en huidige WP hengelaar( sy is 3de in julle Klub)….. Ek is baie bly vir haar, het haar Saterdag gesien en sy hengel baie hard!

 

Ps. gelukkig is die seisoen nog lank en die Groot Haaie gaan nou eers begin byt!

 

So Stinky, wat se aas het jy gebruik vir die een op die foto?

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I read a similar artical in Ben Schoeman's 'Strike' (for me still the bible of rock and surf fishing) and decided to give it a try after a frustrating two hours of barbel on every bait-up with pilchard at Solitude in Namibia last year.

After baiting up with a fillet of barbel, I noticed an immediate taper off of barbel activity and half an hour later my line suddenly went slack on me. All hell broke loose when I took up the slack when my reel suddenly started to turn against the drag and I had that satisfying feeling of something sizeable on my line. The end result was a 15kg spotted gully shark, a surprisingly good fighting fish for it's size!

 

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spotties are awesome fish to catch for sure... nothing compares to the adrenalin of catching them off the reefs...aaaaaah got to love summer...

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On one of hennie papenfus' dvds, Ankie smit says that barbel do not swim away after they have been caught ,is this true.

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Sorry Mantis is that spotted gully's or smoothounds ? heheheh

Expat jy is reg die een op die foto was gevang op tjokka , ek het die 16kg op maasbanker gevang.

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