Kabeljou

I had an interesting chat with Catch 22, and have been wondering: has anyone been successfull in targeting kabeljou/ "cob" on jigs?

yes got a few small - 6kg , fedu got a few monsters on inchiku jigs .

Thanks Tackle Whore. In which area was this?

Sorry for my lack of south african english, but if I understood correctly you were asking about what we call Corvina here and up until now we never tryed jigging them, allthought I don't see why not, plugs work with them.

Here in Angola we have what we call Corvina (2 species I think) and Pungo (2 species I also think), the first two are corvinas and the last three pungos.

NOT JIGGED YET (corvinas, caught with plugs)





SUCCESSFULLY JIGGED allready (pungos)







P.S. - All the 4 species above (2 corvina & 2 pungo) we also catch trolling with plugs.

Hi Fedu

Judging by the dots along the length I would say that the last three looks like what we refer to as kabeljou, might be a different sub-species.

What was the depth where you trolled with the plugs? Any specific colours or techniques for the Pungo's?

 

Hi Redhawk,

Some correction to my previous post, of this croaker or drum family that here we either call Corvina or Pungo (several names for it: Corvina-Legitima, Corvina-Preta, Pungo-Amarelo, etc. etc.) we have the following species in Angola (scientific names):

Atractoscion  aequidens
Miracorvina  angolensis
Pentheroscion  mbizi
Pseudotolithus  elongatus
Pseudotolithus  epipercus
Pseudotolithus  moorii
Pseudotolithus  senegalensis
Pseudotolithus  senegallus
Pseudotolithus  typus


Confusing hey? I would say we have your cobs and a little bit more species of croakers

That name kabeljou got me confused, yes they are cobs.

Not many people troll for them, the first time I got one on a plug a friend of mine told me I was probably confused .....

No specific colors for trolling, depends on the day and hour, the trick is trolling to theyr deepth like with grouper or your rockcod.
In 3 meters deep troll with plugs that "swim" at 2 to 3 meters depth, In 7 meters "swim" 6/7 meters and so on.
Usually we use Strom Plugs or Rapalas X-rap, controll the depth with plug type/lenght and line lenght.


On jigs, they usually prefer "clear" or shinny jigs, pink, yellow, white, silver or black & silver.

Thank you Fedu.

One last thing I forgot to tell you.

They are usually on rocky or coral areas and on wrecks, usually on the outer limits of the rock or wreck or sometimes in the sand just near the rock.

Trolling this way you end up loosing some plugs, because sometimes you are "harvesting" the bottom (they get stuck in the rocks), but it produces.

On jigging you also usually loose some jigs, when they are eating (hot bite) the best jig for them is the inchiku TW has talked about.

The intresting thing about jigging for cob is that you can arrive to a spot were there's a boat fishing with handline and bait, they can have been there for hours without geting a single cob and in a hour or two you get cob after cob if, with your sounder, you locate the outer limit were they are and put you jig on the spot.

In this picture you "see" the cobs on the right outer limit of this wreck, on this day I got cob after cob after cob.
http://www.sealine.co.za/view_topic.php?id=19009&forum_id=67

fedu wrote:

One last thing I forgot to tell you.

They are usually on rocky or coral areas and on wrecks, usually on the outer limits of the rock or wreck or sometimes in the sand just near the rock.

Trolling this way you end up loosing some plugs, because sometimes you are "harvesting" the bottom (they get stuck in the rocks), but it produces.

On jigging you also usually loose some jigs, when they are eating (hot bite) the best jig for them is the inchiku TW has talked about.

The intresting thing about jigging for cob is that you can arrive to a spot were there's a boat fishing with handline and bait, they can have been there for hours without geting a single cob and in a hour or two you get cob after cob if, with your sounder, you locate the outer limit were they are and put you jig on the spot.

In this picture you "see" the cobs on the right outer limit of this wreck, on this day I got cob after cob after cob.
http://www.sealine.co.za/view_topic.php?id=19009&forum_id=67

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Fedu...

Thats looking very familiar...

If the guys actively starting to target cob they might have a big surprise

fedu wrote:

Hi Redhawk,

Some correction to my previous post, of this croaker or drum family that here we either call Corvina or Pungo (several names for it: Corvina-Legitima, Corvina-Preta, Pungo-Amarelo, etc. etc.) we have the following species in Angola (scientific names):

Atractoscion  aequidens
Miracorvina  angolensis
Pentheroscion  mbizi
Pseudotolithus  elongatus
Pseudotolithus  epipercus
Pseudotolithus  moorii
Pseudotolithus  senegalensis
Pseudotolithus  senegallus
Pseudotolithus  typus


Confusing hey? I would say we have your cobs and a little bit more species of croakers

That name kabeljou got me confused, yes they are cobs.

Not many people troll for them, the first time I got one on a plug a friend of mine told me I was probably confused .....

No specific colors for trolling, depends on the day and hour, the trick is trolling to theyr deepth like with grouper or your rockcod.
In 3 meters deep troll with plugs that "swim" at 2 to 3 meters depth, In 7 meters "swim" 6/7 meters and so on.
Usually we use Strom Plugs or Rapalas X-rap, controll the depth with plug type/lenght and line lenght.


On jigs, they usually prefer "clear" or shinny jigs, pink, yellow, white, silver or black & silver.

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Cool, you caught a geelbek/cape salmon in Angola yet?

aquadementia wrote:

Cool, you caught a geelbek/cape salmon in Angola yet?

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Aqua,

That is a very nice fish!!!!! How was it caught ?

I think that is what we call a "Pungo amarelo" or "Corvina de boca amarela", this angolan/portuguese name  literal translation to english should be something like "yellow cob" or "yellowmouth corvina" .

Atractoscion aequidens  or Geelbek Croaker

P.S. - I have caught several trolling with plugs.

fedu wrote:

aquadementia wrote:

Cool, you caught a geelbek/cape salmon in Angola yet?

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Aqua,

That is a very nice fish!!!!! How was it caught ?

I think that is what we call a "Pungo amarelo" or "Corvina de boca amarela", this angolan/portuguese name  literal translation to english should be something like "yellow cob" or "yellowmouth corvina" .

Atractoscion aequidens  or Geelbek Croaker

P.S. - I have caught several trolling with plugs.

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thanks it was caught on a small 3 inch gulp squid on a 3/4 oz jighead, the fish were not far down. I've never heard of anyone catching a geelbek here while trolling, but they do on occasion come up to 2 metres under the surface so a deep diver should work for them? Maybe i should try next time im out.

Deep diver on shallow water, the Rapala X-rap trolling lure swims from 4 to 9 meters (15 to 30 foot) depending on the lure size, line, etc..

Whats the ideal trolling speed to get it to dive deep?

aquadementia wrote:

Whats the ideal trolling speed to get it to dive deep?

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Usually 4 to 5 knots, I'll post a more detailed thread about this and all the lures on the proper forum later.

Awesome thanks!