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 Posted: Mon Nov 17th, 2008 04:57 pm
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sebastiaan
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A few months ago i was in Mozam, Tofu i was on the beach and i saw a man go into the water with a spear gun, later my friends told me that he came out with about ten big lemon fish. Since then i have really wanted to start spear-fishing. I have done a bit of research on the internet but have not really found any thing so this is my main question:

As a 14 year old do could i legally spearfish (in the western cape)?

Other things i was wondering do i need a permit, and how much would it cost and do i just have to go to the post office like when you get other permits?

Thanks

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 Posted: Mon Nov 17th, 2008 05:44 pm
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I started spearfishing when I was your age. I am not sure of legality of it these days, but if you have a family realtive or friend who can take you it should be no problem. You most probably going to start without much gear esp. a wetsuit so try for spots up the coast like Arniston or Cape Infanta. The water is shallow and reasonably calm with lots of fish to keep you interested. Don't think False Bay is going to give you the same experience as Moz. LOL You might just decide after the cold water and hardly any fish that spearing is waste of time.

Good Luck and BIG FISH!

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 Posted: Mon Nov 17th, 2008 05:48 pm
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Hi There ,

freediving / spearfishing is awesome.

I personally dont think that your age matters when it comes to spearfishing.

As long as you are comfortable in the water and take it easy in the begining you will enjoy yourself.

You will need a permit which you can obtain at the post office at around R 120.00 i think.

 

good luck new spearo

 

Ask miles on sealine for any info you require , he has a wealth of knowledge on spearing.

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 Posted: Mon Nov 17th, 2008 05:50 pm
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i would say go to your local fishing club and see if you can join up with some spear fisherman. the sea aint just about going in a swimming, you need to learn all about rips, techniques (especially safety) and gear. good luck

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 Posted: Mon Nov 17th, 2008 06:07 pm
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Thanks for the replies.

So is there no where in cape town where you can spear fish?

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 Posted: Mon Nov 17th, 2008 09:00 pm
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Hi

Welcome on board future spearfisher.

No there is no legal restriction on you spearfishing .Yes you do need a permit. Around R75.

Spearfishers are quite a close circle and it is difficult to find an easy introduction.

Clubs are the best way to start. There is also a strong informal network of people who hang around spearfishing shops talking nonsense when they should be doing something more productive.

A good start would be to phone Louis Hattingh at Rabitech and introduce yourself. (He is out in Kuilsriver so you might have trouble getting out there in person.)

He might know where people are going diving that are safe and suitable mentors. Ask him if he can recommend someone who has a son your age who is also being introduced to spearfishing who would have no objection to you tagging along.

I give no guarantee that he can help but he might be able to refer you to the right people.

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 Posted: Tue Nov 18th, 2008 10:47 am
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Hi Sebastiaan,

Great to see some new young blood interested in spearfishing.Most Cape divers will start their diving in Sea Point (Cold,but normally calm and clean waters with an abundance of Hottentot to practise your hunting on).If you have a wet suit,hoodie and a pair of fins,borrow a speargun if you don't already have one and you're on your way.Always dive with a partner,never alone,and preferrably someone who has some experince of the sea or particular area.

A call to Louis or joining a club will help speed the learning process along.

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 Posted: Tue Nov 18th, 2008 04:39 pm
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Thanks guys i hope to try it out some time this holiday (with my dad who is a real strong swimmer).
Will tell you how it goes.

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 Posted: Tue Nov 18th, 2008 05:20 pm
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I forgot to mention that there are some handy books around as well. The Len Jones guide is a classic and costs only a few rand.

The main thing I think is to learn to relax in the water. Spend some time on the surface just listening to your breathing and focussing on filling up your lungs for the dive.

DO NOT be tempted to hyperventilate. This only fools your bodies early warning system. Keep breathing smoothly and naturally at all times.

Try not to move around too much. Don't try chasing after fish. Just drop to the bottom and wait for the fish to come to you.

Don't over think the shot when you do shoot. If you try to aim too hard it will become difficult. Think Yoda "Use the force Luke"

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 Posted: Wed Nov 19th, 2008 12:35 pm
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Hey There. First thing first you must be fit because if not you can get into trouble with the current and swell. I'm not saying that's going to happen in Cape Town, but when you start diving further North you quickly learn to respect the sea.I suggest that someone teaches you how to spear. It makes things a whole lot easier and never dive alone. Probably the biggest cost will be your wetsuit. I suggest you get an open cell because you must be warm and comfortable in the water.If you cold you'll use up alot of energy and shiver which will affect your breathhold...so dont buy a nylon suit!  Coral makes good suits. Go see Loius at Rabitech about getting kitted out. Sea point is a good place to start because the sea is generally calm and there are some big hotties there. Got one of 2.8kgs there two weeks ago. There is no stipulation on the minimum age to spearfish but you must have a licience which costs R75 (from post office). Once you start you'll never stop and as we say fish always eat spear! :wfish

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 Posted: Wed Nov 19th, 2008 03:51 pm
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the permt is easy, thats at the post office.

whether you are allowed or not legally i don't know but i'm pretty sure you are. i started by getting my crayfish and it was a progression from there. it was about 14/ 15 years of age, i always had someone more experienced with me though and that is the best way to learn.

Whats also important is not to shoot the wrong fish because when you start you just want to shoot the first thing that appears at the end of the gun. know your fish, it one of the best parts of spearing and freediving.

good luck!

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 Posted: Wed Nov 19th, 2008 07:06 pm
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Where could i get a spear gun and the other stuff, are there any shops in Cape Town?

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 Posted: Wed Nov 19th, 2008 09:12 pm
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Hi Guys

Miles referred me to Trevor Hutton re freediving course for spearfishing. I called him yesterday and he is just starting free training sessions at Sea Point Pool on Tuesdays and Thursdays from 5-7pm. I joined yesterday and the he really gives you attention. My intention is to do one of his courses, but the training sessions are a good way to get to know otehr spearos and see what can be done with proper training.

http://trevorhutton.blogspot.com/

The guy is a legend so give him a call if you want to get into the sport safely.

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Hi Sabastian

where are you in Cape town, if you are in the southern suburbs then Chrisys sports would be the closest they stock free divers equipmnet -christys sports is down kendal rd, otherwise i normally drive through to louis hatting in Kuilsriver.Jimmys sports in fish hoek also has some equipment but it is not dedicated spearfishing equipment.

I have an old 900 champion gun that i dont use any more ,you can have, still works great and a nice gun to start with. if it is to long it i s a simple task to cut shorter.I dont know how ehical it is giving a 14 yr old a spear gun so rather get you dad to come and get it if you want it.you can send me a pm i live in constantia.

cheers and good luck

Ants 

 

 

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Hi guys

A training lesson sound like a good idea.
As soon as the exams are over i will have a look around at the shops and get some more info on how to spearfish ( i live in Hout Bay so i guess i will go Chrisys Sport).
The champion sounds like a good idea, how much do you want for it? My dad will be with me if i get it.

I'm getting pretty stoked to start spear fishing but i first want to do a bit of swimming at the gyms pool before i start.

Thanks a hell of a lot for all the tips.

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 Posted: Fri Nov 21st, 2008 11:42 am
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you can have it

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 Posted: Fri Nov 21st, 2008 12:07 pm
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big ups grunter for helping a youngster start up manna bru

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 Posted: Fri Nov 21st, 2008 07:26 pm
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Thanks a hell of a lot for that.
Me and my dad could pick it up pretty much whenever because we often drive through there.
When would it suit you?

Once again thanks a hell of a lot.


We are going to malgas (breede river) as soon at the holidays start (if our house is still above water) is it legal to spearfish in a lagoon?

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Nope, not legal in inland waters. But if you drive down to Infanta there are plenty of really beautiful shallow, 2-5m dive spots with plenty of Bronze Bream, Stump and Kolstert and if you're lucky cob, garrick and galjoen.

You can dive between the mouth and the slip which is a little deeper and more interesting or from the slip up to the point along the wall which is very close to the side and shallow but has a lot of stumps and other small fish. It is a very easy dive from the side.

Just dive with somebody at all times please.

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Thanks i will give it a try at Infanta.

Will do.

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