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Serra Moz
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Joined: Sun Apr 15th, 2007
Location: Marracuene (The Bush), Mozambique
Posts: 4673
Equipment: A - Z (Penn Rules)
Best Catch: Lots and Lots
Favorite Fishing Spot: WorldWideWaters - (Fresh + Salt)
Boat: Got a few that can float
Club: Macaneta Ski Boat Club (MOZ)
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Truth, I believe the likes of Facebook & W/app killed off all the old traditional forums - I have noted it on all the fishing / diving / spearfishing / boating / hunting forums. If one look at the amount of members on these Facebook pages, look at the amount of daily posts / replies. It's a far cry of what's happening on the forums.

Fishing wise I belong of course to SL and UA, a person hardly see more than 5 posts a day....

Writing on the wall? Sign of times? Yes I think so. Various reasons, I suppose quicker responses, easy access, more "hip" than the old school forums.

What's your take.... I myself have been pondering, is it still worth our while running these forums, the old labour of love?

Frikster
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Joined: Fri Apr 24th, 2009
Location: Richardsbay, South Africa
Posts: 660
Equipment: Lots
Best Catch: Await tha beeeg one
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Club: RBSBC
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agreed, i am also on other forums, they are all mostly dead!

Limpopoking
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Joined: Fri May 14th, 2010
Location: Louis Trichardt, South Africa
Posts: 1404
Equipment: The odd rod and reel with some stringy bits and ...
Best Catch: Swine flu
Favorite Fishing Spot: Linene Moz
Boat: Bandit 380
Club: 14lb
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I dislike just about everything about FB... I find it to be a sort of "attention deficit" kind of media.

I'm a forum guy thru and thru. I love the fact that you can revive old threads as they become relevant again, search through topics and find specific posts. I also love the fact that forums do not overwhelm you with commercials.

I'm on FB, but only because I have a business page.

Serra Moz
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Joined: Sun Apr 15th, 2007
Location: Marracuene (The Bush), Mozambique
Posts: 4673
Equipment: A - Z (Penn Rules)
Best Catch: Lots and Lots
Favorite Fishing Spot: WorldWideWaters - (Fresh + Salt)
Boat: Got a few that can float
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Of course I am FB, what I enjoy about Forums, it acts as a Bible, you can always go back to an old thread - say for example you changed to "fly fishing" voila, just read up and there you go.

Serra Moz
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Joined: Sun Apr 15th, 2007
Location: Marracuene (The Bush), Mozambique
Posts: 4673
Equipment: A - Z (Penn Rules)
Best Catch: Lots and Lots
Favorite Fishing Spot: WorldWideWaters - (Fresh + Salt)
Boat: Got a few that can float
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Frikster wrote:
agreed, i am also on other forums, they are all mostly dead!

100%, like I said about rifles / hunting etc... same people on the facebook pages, however they don't post on the forums anymore.

Perhaps, it's because FB is or can be more interactive?

Houtarm
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Joined: Sat Mar 7th, 2015
Location: Swellendam, South Africa
Posts: 609
Equipment: Okuma Metaloid 13.6, Daiwa BG6500, Shimano Sedona 2500, Shimano 15/30
Best Catch: Yellowfin Tuna 12kg, Leervis 84cm, Galjoen 56cm, Cracker 72cm, Kob ...
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Limpopoking wrote:
I dislike just about everything about FB... I find it to be a sort of "attention deficit" kind of media.

I'm a forum guy thru and thru. I love the fact that you can revive old threads as they become relevant again, search through topics and find specific posts. I also love the fact that forums do not overwhelm you with commercials.

I'm on FB, but only because I have a business page.


I agree.

How much of the activity on Facebook is just the same thing over and over. Every second day someone wants an ID on a two tone finger fin. Same questions get asked over and over.

Facebook is nice to follow significant catches, here and there an interesting conversation takes place.

But I prefer the forum format if you are looking for serious advice or info. The forum doesn't need to be very active to be of use, most questions have been asked and I read old topics regularly just for the fun of it, so much info hidden where it's not easy to find by just using a search function.

Serious or interesting questions and topics on the forum will get responses.

I think you might be right that forum's are on the out though, but the problem is with people, not the forums.

I spoke to a old timer teacher recently.I asked her if she has seen any affect of social media on the kids in school today compared to before. According to her children in schools have lost the ability to research problems and formulate solutions. If they can't Google the answer instantly they struggle.

I think it's the same with forum users.

Serra Moz
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Location: Marracuene (The Bush), Mozambique
Posts: 4673
Equipment: A - Z (Penn Rules)
Best Catch: Lots and Lots
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Houtarm wrote:
Limpopoking wrote:
I dislike just about everything about FB... I find it to be a sort of "attention deficit" kind of media.

I'm a forum guy thru and thru. I love the fact that you can revive old threads as they become relevant again, search through topics and find specific posts. I also love the fact that forums do not overwhelm you with commercials.

I'm on FB, but only because I have a business page.





I agree.

How much of the activity on Facebook is just the same thing over and over. Every second day someone wants an ID on a two tone finger fin. Same questions get asked over and over.

Facebook is nice to follow significant catches, here and there an interesting conversation takes place.

But I prefer the forum format if you are looking for serious advice or info. The forum doesn't need to be very active to be of use, most questions have been asked and I read old topics regularly just for the fun of it, so much info hidden where it's not easy to find by just using a search function.

Serious or interesting questions and topics on the forum will get responses.

I think you might be right that forum's are on the out though, but the problem is with people, not the forums.

I spoke to a old timer teacher recently.I asked her if she has seen any affect of social media on the kids in school today compared to before. According to her children in schools have lost the ability to research problems and formulate solutions. If they can't Google the answer instantly they struggle.

I think it's the same with forum users.


Correct - I agree on google, as a search tool the person will search to give/supply an answer, but will not really remember the question or answer later on...as it was so easy to obtain it. I have used google for a few things - I cooked a duck once, oranges etc...duck l'orange - came out perfect thanks to google, but I made a point of etching the recipe in my small brains..

Limpopoking
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Joined: Fri May 14th, 2010
Location: Louis Trichardt, South Africa
Posts: 1404
Equipment: The odd rod and reel with some stringy bits and ...
Best Catch: Swine flu
Favorite Fishing Spot: Linene Moz
Boat: Bandit 380
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Houtarm wrote:
Limpopoking wrote:
I dislike just about everything about FB... I find it to be a sort of "attention deficit" kind of media.

I'm a forum guy thru and thru. I love the fact that you can revive old threads as they become relevant again, search through topics and find specific posts. I also love the fact that forums do not overwhelm you with commercials.

I'm on FB, but only because I have a business page.


I agree.

How much of the activity on Facebook is just the same thing over and over. Every second day someone wants an ID on a two tone finger fin. Same questions get asked over and over.

Facebook is nice to follow significant catches, here and there an interesting conversation takes place.

But I prefer the forum format if you are looking for serious advice or info. The forum doesn't need to be very active to be of use, most questions have been asked and I read old topics regularly just for the fun of it, so much info hidden where it's not easy to find by just using a search function.

Serious or interesting questions and topics on the forum will get responses.

I think you might be right that forum's are on the out though, but the problem is with people, not the forums.

I spoke to a old timer teacher recently.I asked her if she has seen any affect of social media on the kids in school today compared to before. According to her children in schools have lost the ability to research problems and formulate solutions. If they can't Google the answer instantly they struggle.

I think it's the same with forum users.


((goodp_

Serra Moz
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Joined: Sun Apr 15th, 2007
Location: Marracuene (The Bush), Mozambique
Posts: 4673
Equipment: A - Z (Penn Rules)
Best Catch: Lots and Lots
Favorite Fishing Spot: WorldWideWaters - (Fresh + Salt)
Boat: Got a few that can float
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Something I really miss on SL will be the DIY stuff, enjoyed that...

CharlesF
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Joined: Wed Mar 13th, 2013
Location: Mosselbaai, South Africa
Posts: 346
Equipment: Shimano / Daiwa / Assasin / Penn
Best Catch: Stil fishing
Favorite Fishing Spot: Gouritz / Kanon
Boat: Dinghy for estuaries
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Serra you nailed it. I have also noted this on SL and UA also other forums like Cycad Friends.

I am a die-hard fan of the forums and (as already said) they have a wealth of knowledge.

FB seems to be very "shallow".

Limpopoking
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Joined: Fri May 14th, 2010
Location: Louis Trichardt, South Africa
Posts: 1404
Equipment: The odd rod and reel with some stringy bits and ...
Best Catch: Swine flu
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Serra Moz wrote:
Something I really miss on SL will be the DIY stuff, enjoyed that...

For sure... Bennie J was a huge inspiration among others.

Serra Moz
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Joined: Sun Apr 15th, 2007
Location: Marracuene (The Bush), Mozambique
Posts: 4673
Equipment: A - Z (Penn Rules)
Best Catch: Lots and Lots
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CharlesF wrote:
Serra you nailed it. I have also noted this on SL and UA also other forums like Cycad Friends.

I am a die-hard fan of the forums and (as already said) they have a wealth of knowledge.

FB seems to be very "shallow".


Thanks buddy, as mentioned on the FB sites unless "files" or "notes" are saved in a "vault" a newbie cannot obtain any info / tips etc... shallow is the word !

Serra Moz
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Joined: Sun Apr 15th, 2007
Location: Marracuene (The Bush), Mozambique
Posts: 4673
Equipment: A - Z (Penn Rules)
Best Catch: Lots and Lots
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Limpopoking wrote:
Serra Moz wrote:
Something I really miss on SL will be the DIY stuff, enjoyed that...

For sure... Bennie J was a huge inspiration among others.


For sure, like wise with Marcos on AU.. love DIY stuff

Serra Moz
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Joined: Sun Apr 15th, 2007
Location: Marracuene (The Bush), Mozambique
Posts: 4673
Equipment: A - Z (Penn Rules)
Best Catch: Lots and Lots
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Serra Moz wrote:
Limpopoking wrote:
Serra Moz wrote:
Something I really miss on SL will be the DIY stuff, enjoyed that...

For sure... Bennie J was a huge inspiration among others.


For sure, like wise with Marcos on AU.. love DIY stuff



Look at this, a "copy & paste" -

189 users online (30 members, 159 guests, 2 invisible)

= 159 Guests!!!!!!

CACTUS JACK
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Joined: Fri Sep 10th, 2010
Location: Sibasa, South Africa
Posts: 12
Equipment: Ultra light spinning mainly
Best Catch: 104 cm GT
Favorite Fishing Spot: Water
Boat: Impala 50 Yamaha
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The Facebook sites are full of keyboard cowards - because there is no community, it just becomes a big slagging match with tons of blaming, whining and finger pointing.
The forums have respectful advice and a sense of pride. When shopping for 2nd hand gear I would far rather trust a forum member than some random on FB.

hrogers
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Joined: Tue Oct 19th, 2010
Location: Kriel, South Africa
Posts: 334
Equipment: Blue Marlin - Cast master - Okuma rods -: Penn ...
Best Catch: Kingfish 3KG - Live bait used small blacktail
Favorite Fishing Spot: St Luicia - Richardsbay - Orange rocks Uvango
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I've got face book but hardly use it, when it's someone
birthday then I can use face book to post on his timeline
I still prefer to log in daily to the fishing forums.

SL / UA / Alantani ( fishing reel repair and there is a lot of info as well) Tacklebag.co.za
Namibia fishing forum is very quite not much happen there
I do receive mails form Capetown fishing and they keep me updated via email

willem wikkel spies
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Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4149
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
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some good replies already.
it has been discussed previously.

Sealine is like a library!!!!
anything and everything under the sun, about fishing has been discussed already.

so it is here in the archives.

only on the tips and tricks side of angling, can we basically elaborate or hand out the tips.....

looking at the rods and reels...there are so many on the market, it is hard to keep track of them all.
especially new models

so knowledge around the new reels and rods on the market and feedback on them are not freely available.

I still use old technology rods, reels are also quite old, but at least upgraded from the jigmaster 500 range.

they still do the job, so why do I need to change?
I have learnt that knowing when, how and where to find fish is a better weapon then the equipment being used.

looking at face book....eisch.

those moderators are working overtime, poor old bastards!!!!
kry vir julle...lol
the information as stated is indeed shallow.

yes one can do some good stuff....if you are a attention seeker!!!!
feedback might be quick......and so people too who like to judge on fbook.


on sealine you can still use a user name, which can hide your identity....not so much on facebook.


so their users should be aware.....any wrong statement etc, might end up in you loosing your job.

or being slayed in the fishing community.....

I recall a certain incident...which was of poor taste...
which also turned quite bad.

it was with the sardine run...where a employee was tasked to keep sharks away from the netted sardines, this poor oak then hit a shark...…

a video was posted and he was named and shamed, and most people judge him!!!!
they made him apologize on social media... what a disgrace!!!!

I took the liberty and informed mr. Cameron Johnson....as he is a moderator, that this poor oak should take them to court for defamation of character...and sue their pants off them. as the moderators should also protect people from being humiliated...…


then just like that the whole post was deleted....

so, if you want to use face broek, please do so at your own peril.
they do not have the knowledge this site has and they will never have it.

if one looks further....sealine does not have sh!t.....
moderators hardly need to jump in to prevent ships sinking or personal attacks being made.

this is because most of us here, are grown up anglers.
we do not have many keyboard anglers here, we have men and ladies with real fishing knowledge.

we do have many roof kykers...that is clear.
and old members are still active and they do tend to pop in at times....

we do need some new info....on diy….etc.
and the guys need to post their fishing reports.
they should post their catches...…
and they should not be afraid of being judged on the fish they kept when it was within their right to do so.

we should also refrain from personal attacks at times "hardly ever happens nowa days as the kaf has left the field"

one thing that we should not forget is that Sealine is free, free for all.
we are lucky to still have it this way.

so lets see, how we can take Sealine to the next level.. together.

Serra Moz
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Joined: Sun Apr 15th, 2007
Location: Marracuene (The Bush), Mozambique
Posts: 4673
Equipment: A - Z (Penn Rules)
Best Catch: Lots and Lots
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WWS - well said

I certainly agree 1000% on new products and reviews, can't KEEP track, are they really "new" or just a slight upgrade with a different name / colour ? LOL, just joking of course I know they do upgrade stuff to last longer and perform better.

What I enjoy/ed about SL and UA in the days, were these descriptive posts on fishing outings, (1) Weather conditions (2) bait used (3) tackle used etc, like a real proper write up. And then the okes used to posts like 10 pics with the post.

Also I enjoy the restore / revamp projects on boats for example - like "John Doe" doing a Ski Vee revamp over a 6 months period etc..

Another favourite of mine - the "golden oldies" pics of yester year, and info on the pioneers of fishing in SA, the museum collections great as well.

The reality is: a) People moved on, immigrated etc b) Kids c) Change of location, people moving inland d) Suppose a money factor and a change of hobbies e) Some passed on RIP = Who knows who's gonners from SL? In a nutshell there's so many variables as to why people leave forums, again I say it's "connectivity" of social platforms, it's quick and easy and you have an instant audience of 50K people.

Last edited on Sat Oct 27th, 2018 02:48 am by Serra Moz

Frikster
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Joined: Fri Apr 24th, 2009
Location: Richardsbay, South Africa
Posts: 660
Equipment: Lots
Best Catch: Await tha beeeg one
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Boat: Seacat 565
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I wonder if it is not the bad economy that is causing this, or do you guys think its a shift into the new smartphone technology?

Think its the latter , but also a bit of whats going on in the country atm.

Serra Moz
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Joined: Sun Apr 15th, 2007
Location: Marracuene (The Bush), Mozambique
Posts: 4673
Equipment: A - Z (Penn Rules)
Best Catch: Lots and Lots
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Frikster wrote:
I wonder if it is not the bad economy that is causing this, or do you guys think its a shift into the new smartphone technology?

Think its the latter , but also a bit of whats going on in the country atm.


Could be, see what I said I suppose the likes of FB and W/app is more interactive...so yes I agree

Slimy Salamander
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Joined: Mon Aug 18th, 2014
Location: Wolmaransstad, South Africa
Posts: 337
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I agree with everything said above, but one thing this forum needs is mobile support. It would make a world of difference if the forum can be updated and a responsive template installed.

Pylstert
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Joined: Fri May 4th, 2007
Location: Wagina Island
Posts: 2016
Equipment: 2nd Hand Rods, Torium reels
Best Catch: Medium Bronzie
Favorite Fishing Spot: SA coast
Boat: no
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Yip tapatalk works very well there has been requests in the past for it not sure if it costs money though to host on there

MichaelK
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Joined: Tue Mar 25th, 2008
Location: Durban, South Africa
Posts: 1945
Equipment: Daiwa BG 8000, posidon rods
Best Catch: Couta, Wahoo, Sailfish, GT, YFT
Favorite Fishing Spot: The sea
Boat: Cobra Cat 525 with 2 x 90hp Yamaha
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Back in the day when forums seriuosly thrived it was a pleasure to read and post. Somehow the green bunny huggers crept into these forums and you now cant post a picture without some idiot giving you advice on sustainablity of fish populations ect ect ect and then brow beating you. It gets even worse when everyone jumps in like a pack of wolves feeding on a carcase.
The problem with those guys is they dont see the amount of fish returned and only the odd 1 or 2 fish kept.
I admit that i hardly ever post my catches anymore because of that and tend now to be a roofkyker

Last edited on Tue Oct 30th, 2018 06:30 am by MichaelK

BTTB
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Joined: Sun Sep 23rd, 2007
Location: Cape Town, South Africa
Posts: 777
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Best Catch: Too many stories, not enough space
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willem wikkel spies wrote: some good replies already.
it has been discussed previously.

Sealine is like a library!!!!
anything and everything under the sun, about fishing has been discussed already.

so it is here in the archives.

only on the tips and tricks side of angling, can we basically elaborate or hand out the tips.....

looking at the rods and reels...there are so many on the market, it is hard to keep track of them all.
especially new models

so knowledge around the new reels and rods on the market and feedback on them are not freely available.

I still use old technology rods, reels are also quite old, but at least upgraded from the jigmaster 500 range.

they still do the job, so why do I need to change?
I have learnt that knowing when, how and where to find fish is a better weapon then the equipment being used.

looking at face book....eisch.
Agreed. Forums are useful to serve as a Library of information, also searchable with Google. Sharing tackle information is great but I will never post about where and when I catch fish, here or at the tackle shops.

In my opinion it is a no win scenario that I have seen pan out with the West Coast Angling Forum as example where the potential is that hundreds of people can instantaneously know where the fish are biting on the "fly" using WhatsApp.
Its self defeating and potentially harmful to the resource where we would all like a piece of the resource but due to the overflow of information anyone and everyone knows where the fish are.

I come from a commercial fishing family where the mindset was to fill the boat, so my instinct that its OK that the guy in the laaitjie next to me also catches, is accepted. However we never told the whole world where the fish were biting, especially on a Friday as we knew that we would be swamped with boats on the weekend.

In regards to sight casting for Yellowtail specifically and where my passion lies.
This form of fishing can be seen as an art-form where more boats are not helpful when the fish are skittish, in actual fact I have seen the same scenario pan out every time where the moment the parking lot is full, the fish don't bite and vice versa.
Approaching birds and knowing which way the fish are going and accurate casting is needed. Having a boat trolling through the fish with bungies is counter productive, extremely irritating and poor etiquette. 

I have come to a point where I don't fish on weekends and choose my days during the week rather unless I have privy information and know its going to be worth it.

Our group of fishing friends have discussed this situation at length and have come to the conclusion that the guys that continuously use Facebook to post their plans for the weekend and then again their catches with photos are people seeking accolades for themselves and some may have a commercial interest too. One of these guys even posted a comment that he was going fishing on Saturday because he expected there were going to be too many boats out on the Sunday was for us the most stupid retort anyone could come up with .... because its people like him that draw the crowds in the first place and then turns around and comments about the crowd makes no logical sense.

Sorry for the small rant. I am happy if other people catch fish. I am not happy that people feel the need to advertise everything. This is not a sport like running, cycling, hiking where the more the merrier, fishing is a sport where the very resource in South Africa has been in decline for decades, poaching is rife, the TAC is excessive and we really need to protect the resource.
Even with my commercial fishing background it hurts to see huge Cob being killed, large Leervis being put to the knife, the slaughter of small fish along the Osterwal in False Bay, the continuous demise of the White Stumpnose at Langebaan, all the "illegal" by-catches on the trawlers, gill-nets in rivers and estuaries and a places like Dwaarskersbos, the fact we have no idea how much our Government gives to foreign fishing vessels, beautiful red fish being taken along Macassar in False Bay with ultra light tackle, the mindset that its OK to put everything in the bag no matter the size etc. There are many other aspects to dwell on in regards to how our resource is really in a poor state. Adding more and more fisherman to the equation, now with social media is a complete stuff up in my opinion.

My late father told me of how he in his fishing days of the 50s, 60s, 70s saw how the resource would dwindle the moment the boats arrived. He mentioned the scenario of how they used to fish at Struisbaai and then Die Dam, Rietfontein and Buffeljags and then one day he told a guy at Gansbaai about their catches of red fish at Rietfontein and within one season it was all over, the Gansbaai boats came and caught all the red fish. The same scenario played out in False Bay, the Kalk Bay fleet stopped worrying about red fish because it was commercially unviable .... now two decades later the stock has returned, nowhere near its previous pristine levels but nevertheless they are there, but the recreationals and other charter boats are now targeting them again. What they catch and keep I cannot say but looking back I am happy I changed gear in 1992 and sold my boat and got out.

In summary, DAFF are useless and corrupt. You need to smokkel in order to get quotas and fishing rights. The fishing industry I knew in my youth is gone and I was reminded the other day by an old fisherman of 78 years old, how after they used to catch Snoek in Hout Bay and afterwards would go to just outside the Knoll and sak their lines for a couple of Stock Fish fries. Those fish are all gone now.

Last edited on Tue Mar 5th, 2019 10:44 am by BTTB

willem wikkel spies
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MichaelK wrote:
Back in the day when forums seriuosly thrived it was a pleasure to read and post. Somehow the green bunny huggers crept into these forums and you now cant post a picture without some idiot giving you advice on sustainablity of fish populations ect ect ect and then drow beating you. It gets even worse when everyone jumps in like a pack of wolves feeding on a carcase.
The problem with those guys is they dont see the amount of fish returned and only the odd 1 or 2 fish kept.
I admit that i hardly ever post my catches anymore because of that and tend now to be a roofkyker


Come now !!!
Post em pics of your catches...seeing is believing!!!!


now, most of them greenies are gone....

but if you post your catches and they come and disturb the tread, then I will personally remove the posts!!
as long as you are within your catch quota!!!

this is a invitation to all users!!!


we are all concerned about our fish stocks!!!
and I believe that most of us, will voice it when it matters.

but when we are within our rights, do feel free to share your catch.

remember, n lucky angler catches a big fish, 1 in a life time.
a great angler, catches plenty of fish regularly and more big fish in between!!!

Happy fishing guys!

nantes
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Last edited on Mon Oct 29th, 2018 07:57 pm by nantes

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... And there we go ((wideeye))

Dr halibut hoffman
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Got a copy of Bidens Sea Angling of the Cape for myself now..Mind blowing! I think just reading about how unbelievably bountiful our ocean used to be and how stocks are mere percentages (or less in some case) of what they used to be, I think anyone who read that and fishes today would become an insta-greenie..

The resources have been hammered and they need protection and I agree with BTTB where we can't rely on the gov' to do it for us. Stocks of cob, geelbek, red and white steenbras, most reef fish, leervis, tail, cracker black and white, bait fish etc.etc. have been hammered in the past, some have started to recover but with nunmbers still low, some are still hammered beyond belief and some currently are in the process of catastrophic collapse.. Most fishermen I think are completely ignorant of this and not of their own choice, I think it is ethically wrong for those who are aware of what it should be, to stand by and say and do nothing.

:)

Most of my mates will not post pics so as not to get swamped by everyone and their mates on the weekend or the next day. When I post a pic, I wait until after the fish have gone and conditions have changed, seen the hoards decend on a quiet spot enough times. We had a few quiet days last season, then one day when a guy got a few fish and instagrammed it, and the next morning there was not a place to park in the parking lot at sunrise, guys had driven 800k's through the night..Shame and everyone got skunked, no more fish came out..eish..

Posting a pic of a big dead leerie of cob will still get a few comments from me LOL, I mean try and post a pic of a 100lb tarpon or grander billfish you just killed on a forum from a more civilized and educated country and check what reaction you get from the keyboard warriors haha..And rightly so!

Last edited on Tue Oct 30th, 2018 08:04 pm by Dr halibut hoffman

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Dr halibut hoffman wrote:
The resources have been hammered and they need protection and I agree with BTTB where we can't rely on the gov' to do it for us. Stocks of cob, geelbek, red and white steenbras, most reef fish, leervis, tail, cracker black and white, bait fish etc.etc. have been hammered in the past, some have started to recover but with nunmbers still low, some are still hammered beyond belief and some currently are in the process of catastrophic collapse.. Most fishermen I think are completely ignorant of this and not of their own choice, I think it is ethically wrong for those who are aware of what it should be, to stand by and say and do nothing.

I absolutely agree. My father also taught me the valuable lesson if you can't eat your catch in one meal you don't need it. Set it free.

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;)Well to be perfectly honest...from 2011 to 2013 when I got banned from here ...Sealine was a HIVE of activity...could still never understand why some people here complained about posts etc etc...the thing is about this forum and any thread based forum..IF a thread is started and it has GOOD fishing intel in it AND the okies on that thread are having good banter back n forth AND its not to your conservative taste THEN DONT go open the thread to read it...BUT..sadly the admins that were here saw fit to close..chase and of course ban members AND it all imploded in 2014 and many mooched off to FB etc etc...funny enough a couple of those ADMINS went off to start their own website...and Im not talking UA either...BUT ...SEALINE can be great again....most work and most fish weekends...back in the day I used to notice ...not much traffic over the weekend BUT come Monday and most get a gap at work and the forum was alive again...was good!!::slr::

Last edited on Sat Mar 2nd, 2019 08:44 am by Kenty

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I still like the Forum as it is. And, true, a wealth of knowlege from "hands-on" members.
I would rather share experience and pics on the forum then on social media.

Nice to see old members peaking in or reply on recent posts. ;)

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OLD SCHOOL like in this case is better than whatsfacetwitbook ::slr::

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A lot of info and tutorials was lost here some time ago. Nobody knows what happened to it... Just poof... gone. Perhaps the site was hacked.

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benniejordaan wrote: A lot of info and tutorials was lost here some time ago. Nobody knows what happened to it... Just poof... gone. Perhaps the site was hacked.
Surely the owner of the site must know?

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Pylstert wrote:
benniejordaan wrote: A lot of info and tutorials was lost here some time ago. Nobody knows what happened to it... Just poof... gone. Perhaps the site was hacked.
Surely the owner of the site must know?


yip, a sad thing.

thus big boys....it is time to get writing again!!!
kom nou Psy en Kenty.

maak n plan.

ek self moet die St Lucia tread oor doen want die tread was delete.
sodra ek tyd kry sal ek weer aan die ding begin werk.

hy is iewers maar soveel dinge het verander.
dat dit beter sal wees om n nuwe een te skryf.

Serra Moz
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benniejordaan wrote:
A lot of info and tutorials was lost here some time ago. Nobody knows what happened to it... Just poof... gone. Perhaps the site was hacked.


True that, I have noticed that too, even some of my own stuff which were posted in the Museum / collections section, are gone, and yes lots "Tuts" are gone? Maybe 'hacked' or removed by the postee? Anyway we can make it work again... Prefer this to the FB version to be 100% honest, just my observation + opinion...

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Nobody know what happened. tons of the good tuts just disappeared over night. Emps also doesnt know.

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benniejordaan wrote:
Nobody know what happened. tons of the good tuts just disappeared over night. Emps also doesnt know.

Did they not changed over servers?????

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yes they did change servers at a point in time.

many but many treads were deleted by someone.
so the whole sealine profile had to change as it was someone within... ok, back to the other tread.

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willem wikkel spies wrote:
yes they did change servers at a point in time.

many but many treads were deleted by someone.
so the whole sealine profile had to change as it was someone within... ok, back to the other tread.


The "Spy within" ???? LOL.... Dirty move by the person...

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willem wikkel spies wrote:
Pylstert wrote:
benniejordaan wrote: A lot of info and tutorials was lost here some time ago. Nobody knows what happened to it... Just poof... gone. Perhaps the site was hacked.
Surely the owner of the site must know?


yip, a sad thing.

thus big boys....it is time to get writing again!!!
kom nou Psy en Kenty.

maak n plan.

ek self moet die St Lucia tread oor doen want die tread was delete.
sodra ek tyd kry sal ek weer aan die ding begin werk.

hy is iewers maar soveel dinge het verander.
dat dit beter sal wees om n nuwe een te skryf.
:spite..Hehe...Herr Willem...a new "trend" thread is about to break water...blue print is almost done...STAAN VAS!!!