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 Posted: Mon Sep 24th, 2018 08:18 pm
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Pepeijn.G
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Hey guys, to you that are more experienced in fishing then me, is it more important to buy and extra rod and reel while I already have one or rather first buy a pair of Costa's while I don't have any polorized glasses yet? I can't decide what's the best decision to make here, perhaps you know what's best?:SSS

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 Posted: Tue Sep 25th, 2018 07:06 am
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My personal opinion is that you can get really good polaroids for about R350 from Dichem (I have 2 pairs and I can see fish that my mates in high end darkies can't) and get that rod & reel instead. Glasses have a nasty habbit of getting lost and/or destroyed... Rod and reel, less so.

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 Posted: Tue Sep 25th, 2018 06:41 pm
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Get the rod :), You cannot fish with Costa's.. I agree with Limpopoking wrt glasses. I have been using cheap snowbies for as long as I can remember. Does the job.

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 Posted: Sat Sep 29th, 2018 02:27 pm
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Buy Dischem glasses get my vote as well

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 Posted: Sun Sep 30th, 2018 08:10 am
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Just a heads up... The Dischem glasses that have served me so well are "Glareware Polar Eyes" I can honestly say they have helped my fishing enormously.

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 Posted: Sun Sep 30th, 2018 08:21 am
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Take it from someone who has spent 50 years on, in, next to bluewater - protect your eyesight.
And your face, hands etc.
No so much fun having 20 rods when you are blind.

As mentioned CDM's. MJ's etc are very nice to have - but a cheapy pair will offer similar protection. You will not get the same optics, but at least you will get glasses and a new rod / reel.

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 Posted: Sun Sep 30th, 2018 09:09 am
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Most high end sunglasses brands are owned by one Italian company and the industry has been the victim of global price setting for as long as they have been around and the price for decent shades are hugely inflated. Technologically, most high end shades are made from the exact materials as cheaper ones and often even have inferior lenses. Talking about oakleys, ray ban, armani, versace, prada and arnette and the likes etc..

Before I am sued, there have been numerous journalists that have looked into this over the years and have come to the same conclusion. That said, high end fishing shades are different and proper glass lenses are superior. The main issue is the frame, to have something made from a quality and non-toxic material (not full of endocrine disrupting pthalates and the likes ) that can sit on your face all day long and be comfortable (and not give you cancer) and, for sight fishing, not allow internal reflection through gaps on the side of the face. I have the most amazing, light non-toxic, floating and comfortable bamboo shades with high quality polarised lenses that a friend was having made in china, but unfortunately the aviator frame is not meant for fishing with big gaps on the side and I could not find a frame that suited me for the application.

I'm still looking for the right frame..I may just have tobite the bullet and buy a pair of costa's to get the frame thats perfect, bugger. The lenses are vokol, go to an optometrist and get perscription polarised glass sunglass lenses made custom to your eyes, for a fraction of the cost and of an equal or superior quality of material/coating and probably higher manufacture quality. Glass does not easily scratch, lasts years and does not distort and remains crystal clear. There was a member on here (Khans Optometrist if I remember correctly) even who was an optometrist in Uitenhage, was offering discounts to sealine members at one stage to get glasses/lenses for fishing made. Once you find the right frame, cheapie or not, to get real proper lenses is the trick. Then your eyes will be as protected as they can be, you will spot fish better than ever and your wallet will happier. Also your local business (eye guy) would have received your support instead of your hard earned money just leaving the border to some fashion house. Actually that is not true as chances are your optometrist is just running a franchise owned by the same Italian holding company too, although not all are - mine isn't, most optometrist franchises even here in SA are owned by them too. LOL..

http://www.theprch.com/supporting-responsible-biz/sunglasses-one-company-owns-entire-industry/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxottica

"Luxottica Retail has approximately 9,000 retail locations[2] in the United States, Latin America, Canada, China, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, the United Kingdom, and United Arab Emirates.The headquarters of the retail division is in Mason, Ohio, United States (North America)"


I'd rather spend cash on my eyes..I have enough rods..I've bought enough kuk shades over time as they only last a season or half a season, that I could have bought 2 pairs of costas and looked after them with the money. Hindsight is 20/20.

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 Posted: Sun Sep 30th, 2018 11:04 am
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Dr halibut hoffman wrote:

... as they only last a season or half a season, that I could have bought 2 pairs of costas and looked after them with the money. Hindsight is 20/20.


Into my 4th year with the first pair of Glareware and the first year of my 2nd pair. I bought the 2nd pair when I realised that they were still available. First pair still going strong... I fish about 30 weekends out of 52 in a year. Just bought a Majorcraft N-One for approximately the price of a pair of Costa's

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 Posted: Sun Sep 30th, 2018 12:48 pm
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 Posted: Mon Oct 1st, 2018 07:39 am
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Hallibut the guy said he only has one rod and needs t9 decide between a rod and expensive shades. Expensive shades get trashed as well and really how do you know the expensive shades are also not endocrine disrupting......while you take another drag on a cigarette.......

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Expensive shades often no better, or often worse than cheapies..Costas are better than cheapies but not good value. Best value is to visit your eye doctor but hard part is finding the right frame beforehand. Toxic components of frames not particular to cheap nor expensive frames. Nor to just sunglasses.

"Soft touch" rubber mainly consists of plasticizers and not the plastic component. Of all plastics, they have the highest plasticizer content and the lowest plastic percentage, more phthalate than plastic..only plastic with less plastic and more of the toxic cra@p is the plastisol we use in fishing lures and feed to the bass! These plasticizers are estrogen mimics and tend to cause birth defects and reproductive system cancers. It is just info, use it or loose it..the info is 100% correct, there is a wealth of science behind it. My ciggie also cancerous, hence me making it clean as possible, unprocessed as possible, and then I still add now legal anti cancer herbs in my ciggies to aid in prevention. Nicotine and tar does not cause cancer, but like with plastic, the additives play a large role..I accept my addiction to tobacco for now and try minimise harm.

The shades that I've had that contained the worst of the soft touch rubber cr@p were the berkley ones..they were for free but oh my those things were cheaply made, the lenses junk, the polarising film peeled off from sunscreen exposure and the soft touch rubber disintegrated from the same. That made me aware of it, most frames of shades are made from polycarbonate, that is another culprit when it comes to high phthalate content and "off gassing" or leaching of the stuff out. That junk though is everywhere, there are some brands of toothbrushes that I can't buy as they use that junk in the handles and I make my own toothpaste that is coconut oil based and the stuff just disintegrates into a plasticcy slime on my hands if I use the two together..Ja nee..at least I am aware of it and try avoid it where I can..

I sweat, secrete oils and have oil based sunscreen on my face where my shades touch me, guaranteed that I WILL absorb a fair amount of phthalates on the spots where shades touch my face if I use shades that contain much of the stuff even though the nasty chemicals are supposed to stay put, they don't, they are oil soluble. My 2 cancer growths on my face along with other growths, occured exactly where my shades touch me..Coincidence?

The US library of medicine doesn't seem to think so..By the way, the replacement phthalates for things like BPA and DEHP which cause reproductive system cancers, after study published just last week, seem to mimic estrogen just the same and cause the exact same issues. One could have just taken a look at a chemical diagram and known there was going to be K@k, there is not too much difference between what was/is used and what is used as a replacement now and they all mimic estrogen..just like whole swathes of chemicals used ubiquitously in industry, but ja that a topic for another day LOL..feminise the planet! Eish..

https://toxtown.nlm.nih.gov/chemicals-and-contaminants/phthalates

""Where are Phthalates found?

    Consumer products – many plastic, vinyl, and personal care products

How can I be exposed to Phthalates?

    Skin contact

    Touching or using products made with phthalates""

Try and avoid where you can. Or end up with prostate, testes, breast, ovarian, lymph or other cancer..like half of us will. Just this week I read about a groundbreaking square wine bottle that can be put through your letter box..but the bottle is plastic..ja that is all good as the nasty stuff is not water soluble they say..but add a solvent like alcohol and/or add an acid (like in wine or softdrinks) and there is not much that will not be at least a little bit soluble in that water, even metals will dissolve in that mixture. I mean hey we used lead crystal glass for centuries before we only recently realized that it was poisoning us slowly. I had long before put away the lead crystal decanters and glasses just out of logical caution before I read the studies that showed it to be a real concern. Do not even look at epoxy, shame the boat and lure builders have no clue how toxic the stuff they handle is. In that case the same endocrine disrupting cr@p.

Remember that the next time you glug down your coke, which is highly acidic, or an acidic mineral water that you bought in a PET bottle. ;)And as much as one is told that the BPA replacements used in the PET are safe, logic and now the science is showing otherwise. BTW the "T" in PET stands for terephthalate, also known as "dacron" to us fishermen/women and a phthalate it is. An endocrine distrupter it is, and leach it will and does and the stuff causes havoc in our bodies whether we are aware or not.

It is good in glass, that goes for lenses too, plain old soda silicate glass contains sodium and silicon, two things that our bodies are quite used to dealing with, the better glass boron/silicate also stuff that are is of no harm to use in the amounts encountered otherwise beach sand would be toxic.

Frames, I am still looking for the right frames! haha...Best glasses you find at your eye doctor and they will cost you consultation and then a good couple hundred for the lenses depending on coatings/shade and polarising. Been a while since I priced them.


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There is a wealth of info on the web, but here is an article that explains it nicely..All plastic is bad under certain conditions unless the purest grade of engineering HDPE basically as they all will leach some plasticizer component, but some are worse than others, some require UV or microwaves (the safest HDPE) and some are just horrendous (polycarbonate, soft "rubber" plastics, PVC etc).

Forewarned is forearmed.

http://www.changecalifornia.org/2010/11/phthalates-make-plastic-softand-dangerous.html

"In the eighth story of our ongoing series, "Independence from Toxic Chemicals," Pam Palitz describes the danger of phthalates in our everyday products

When I first started working in the environmental health field, I had a mantra: “
BPA makes plastic hard, phthalates make plastic soft.” Baby bottles … hard. Rubber duckies … soft. It’s
so important for an environmental health advocate to keep her endocrine disruptors straight.



If you’re not familiar with phthalates, just pee in a cup. You’re likely to discover that you’re way more familiar than you thought. In 2005, scientists at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention three thousand people for phthalates, and found that only 12 were phthalate-free, which is no suprise considering that global phthalate production is estimated at 11 billion pounds per year.



Phthalates are a common class of chemicals primarily used as plasticizers. Manufacturers use them in many household products to keep polyvinyl chloride (PVC) strong, yet soft and flexible. In cosmetics, phthalates bind fragrance to the product. Among the products in which phthalates are used are flooring and wall coverings, food packaging, and medical devices such as IV bags. They have been used in soft plastic toys and other baby products, such as some teethers, bath books, and “rubber” ducks. Because phthalates are not chemically bonded to PVC plastic, they leach easily from the plastic. Manufacturers use certain phthalates in perfumes, lotions and cosmetics, as solvents and plasticizers for cellulose acetate, and in making lacquers, varnishes, and coatings, including those used to provide timed release in some pharmaceuticals. New car smell, after a car has been sitting in the sun for a few hours, is partly the pungent odor of phthalates off-gassing from a hot plastic dashboard.

Endocrine disruptors alter the proper balance of hormones, which play a critical role during development. That’s why five of the most common phthalates are on California’s Proposition 65 list as either developmental or reproductive toxicants (or both); one phthalate, diethylhexyl phthalate (DEHP) also made the list as a carcinogen.

Among the adverse health effects of exposure to phthalates are early puberty in girls, premature delivery of babies, impaired sperm quality and sperm damage in men, genital defects and reduced testosterone in boys, genital defects and testicular cancer in men, and allergies.

If the bad news about phthalates is that they are virtually ubiquitous, the good news about them is that their dangers are so well-documented that action is being taken against them. California led the way in 2007 by banning phthalates in children’s toys; the federal Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act followed in 2008, banning three phthalates in children’s toys in concentrations greater than 0.1%. In 2003, the European Union banned phthalates in cosmetics, including nail polish. And this summer, Reps. Jan Schakowsky, Ed Markey, and Tammy Baldwin introduced the Safe Cosmetics Act of 2010 (H.R.5786), which gives the U.S. Food and Drug Administration authority to ensure that personal care products are free of harmful ingredients, including phthalates.

Considering the volume in commerce of phthalates, banning these endocrine disruptors from toys and personal care products are minimal responses to an environmental health crisis. But exposure from toys, which young children put in their mouths, and from cosmetics, which women slather onto their skin, are direct and intensive, and thus are easy pickings for legislators and regulators.

Pamela King Palitz is Environmental Health Advocate and Staff Attorney for Environment California."

More..eye opening reading..

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/feb/10/phthalates-plastics-chemicals-research-analysis

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