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 Posted: Mon Apr 29th, 2019 12:18 pm
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jonathanw wrote:
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Have any of you guys attempted to make your own cannabis oil. If yes, please run through your extraction method

Not oils personally but, I have seen on the web how they use butane gas to extract oils, seems very effective, butane gas is pumped into the cylinder containing the herb and passed through the end with a filter medium, the collective liquid is then boiled to remove the butane residue and only oil remains behind, think it would not be that hard to make the equip if you have some basic DIY skills.


You can also check google, lots of tips / recipes - for free, but take there's been some incidents etc...

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Have any of you guys attempted to make your own cannabis oil. If yes, please run through your extraction method

This is the SA Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/cannaclubsa/?ref=nf_target&fref=nf

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 Posted: Tue Apr 30th, 2019 05:37 am
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Thanks, my wife has had 3 back operations and is in constant pain. She now lives on heavy pain killers and anti inflammatory medication. When i approached one of the suppliers in the Durban area, i was given a price of R800 per 3ml. This is obviously because all of a sudden there is a demand for this product so the suppliers or home manufacturers have drastically driven up the price.

Its legal in SA to grow the weed at home, so i'll try make the stuff myself and see if it helps with my wifes back pain.

Thanks for the help

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Thanks, my wife has had 3 back operations and is in constant pain. She now lives on heavy pain killers and anti inflammatory medication. When i approached one of the suppliers in the Durban area, i was given a price of R800 per 3ml. This is obviously because all of a sudden there is a demand for this product so the suppliers or home manufacturers have drastically driven up the price.

Its legal in SA to grow the weed at home, so i'll try make the stuff myself and see if it helps with my wifes back pain.

Thanks for the help


It should be cheaper now, or so I've heard, since the "legal" outlook, who did you buy from?

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Mate i cant mention names, because although it may be legal to grow and use it at home. Its still illegal to sell the product.

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For that, grow yourself, and extract into olive oil (as they did it in early chapters of the BIBLE) or coconut oil (new age). A slow cooker at 100 degrees or less or a double boil will suffice and repeat with new dry weed and same oil till it is concentrated. Loosely strain each time (stainless sieve), extract and stir/agitate for an hour or less or more (but long enough) at a time and when done, filter the oil through cotton balls or coffee filters and it's good to go. Store in the fridge for longer term and keep some out for use now.. You can get that oil pretty golden and potent, just cant be smoked which is a good thing as no mates are going to raid your medicine. Rubbing this oil on pain and inflammation helps wonders, I'd say up with diclofenac preparations (voltarin) and sometimes when my back is really giving me hell I just run a hot bath with epsoms, dollop a table spoon or more of this oil in, and soak in it..THAT works wonders!

I have mates on pain management therapy in wheelchairs, for that the butane stuff was a godsend as well as the maturation of the dab technology, for the first time they can have such a large dose at once they can interrupt pain signals from phantom pain as they start. That has allowed them to go off a regimen of up to 10 different opiate courses and use maybe one when needed, dabbing the rest of the time when the pain starts. But I'm not going to tell anyone how to make butane oil, to do that you must already know what you are doing and have proper equipment and know and follow safety precautions, there are hundreds of people that have blown themselves up over the years making it. It is NOT safe to do unless you know what you are doing and follow correct procedures and take precautions etc.. and then there is the purity of solvent, getting the excess solvent out of your oil..leave that to the pros.

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For that, grow yourself, and extract into olive oil (as they did it in early chapters of the BIBLE) or coconut oil (new age). A slow cooker at 100 degrees or less or a double boil will suffice and repeat with new dry weed and same oil till it is concentrated. Loosely strain each time (stainless sieve), extract and stir/agitate for an hour or less or more (but long enough) at a time and when done, filter the oil through cotton balls or coffee filters and it's good to go. Store in the fridge for longer term and keep some out for use now.. You can get that oil pretty golden and potent, just cant be smoked which is a good thing as no mates are going to raid your medicine. Rubbing this oil on pain and inflammation helps wonders, I'd say up with diclofenac preparations (voltarin) and sometimes when my back is really giving me hell I just run a hot bath with epsoms, dollop a table spoon or more of this oil in, and soak in it..THAT works wonders!

I have mates on pain management therapy in wheelchairs, for that the butane stuff was a godsend as well as the maturation of the dab technology, for the first time they can have such a large dose at once they can interrupt pain signals from phantom pain as they start. That has allowed them to go off a regimen of up to 10 different opiate courses and use maybe one when needed, dabbing the rest of the time when the pain starts. But I'm not going to tell anyone how to make butane oil, to do that you must already know what you are doing and have proper equipment and know and follow safety precautions, there are hundreds of people that have blown themselves up over the years making it. It is NOT safe to do unless you know what you are doing and follow correct procedures and take precautions etc.. and then there is the purity of solvent, getting the excess solvent out of your oil..leave that to the pros.


@ PSY, do you think WWS will approve of this as in the above posted?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_anointing_oil
Kaneh Bosem is accepted to most likely refer to cannabis. Jesus was the one who broke protocol and started using the oil to heal the masses. Apparently, as everything in the bible is heresay, after so many translations. Apparently he was crucified for giving cannabis oil to the masses..

""Jesus Healing the Blind"  from 12th Century Basilica Catedrale di Santa Maria Nouva di Monreale in Sicily."
The oil was supposed to be reserved for priests, funny that is what happened to most concoctions made from "sacred plants" in most cultures and religions, commoners not generally worthy of the secrets bestowed from the brews. With the royalty and religious power always being intertwined the use of these potions in in history has generally been extended to the kings and queens and their families too. Is/was this right? I agree with the Jesus character and say no. History has a way of repeating itself and here we find ourselves again, and when I got skin cancer years ago and I had lost my father and godfather to cancer before that, I thought, well, why not, if I know how to heal myself, and can, after healing a mates mom in mid 2000's...why not. Stuff the law, I knew the applied law was illegal itself already as I had been using dope under doctors instruction for ten years already for my epilepsy and it worked and that when applying my rights enshrined in the constitution, made all lower drug law redundant..law works like that. The highest law of the land even says so in plain enough english right in the beginning of the document, how everyone else missed it for 22 years blows me away! I had been trying to tell people this for 20 years. I was just laughed at, hahaha. Brainwashing is a powerful force haha.

My neurosurgeon told me in late 90's, that if it works, and is safe, then who has the right to tell you not too. And since I smoked already, the epilems were not needed, just to smoke before water sports so he could have a clear conscience that I would not drown. It is basically almost impossible to have a fit with your blood flooded with cannabanoids as your body uses its' own cannabanoids to stop fits and moderate them.
In fact I now believe that in someone like me, grand mal, that my endogenous cannabanoid system is naturally weak and it NEEDS supplementation for me to function properly. I later thought about it and realized no one has the right to tell me what to put into my body, safe or unsafe. Same like they cannot tell me what to do with my body, if my actions do not affect you, you cannot act in a manner that affects me. Specifically that, was Jesus' entire pluk for crying out loud, that in fact was his ONLY commandment he gave to humans, according to that book, it is not a new concept!! I've eaten of the priestly concoctions from religions from every corner of this globe.. I can understand fully why they were reserved for the class of people in power, the truth sets you free and the last thing the people in power want is for the masses to be free! Hence the books full of lies, and world of lies, and ignorant leaders, and ignorant masses that we sit with today.. ;) The cultures where they were NOT reserved for the elite but shared with the masses, those ARE the few different, sustainable and peaceful cultures you find on the planet today still. It is very polarized and the common denominator is...these plants/fungi and whether the use has been preserved and shared, or kept for the elite and forgotten.

On another note..Shrooms will too soon be legal for personal use (not that they are actually illegal now, if one applies the law fully). Ever see any of the original surviving artworks and documents and scrolls from the christian "cults" that pre-dated the evil catholic church <200-300AD and also in later art. Most of these surviving earliest christian documents are kept safe by the ethiopian coptic church in their library in their highlands. The history of christianity in ethiopia is fascinating, that is how far the early christians had to flee to under roman and later catholic (roman) persecution. Strange how almost every page or painting in the entire collection of almost 2000 year old art, is adorned with little blue and gold leaf mushrooms?! Think about that..Mana..Gimme more! Eat enough mana and you too will feel like Jesus..Happened to Timothy Leary and many many many more before and after..haha history repeats itself..but now I am waaaaay off topic, but it is the lounge! We talk about fishing in the lounge of cannabis forums and the likes hahaha.



Always blue and gold in coptic architecture and art...hmmm royal blue? Queens' Blue..Imperial Blue..Blue blood..whats that all about? Whats up with the holymen all having that golden halo? Hehe. Anyways..leave the masses to figure it out LOL.

Shakespeare also liked his cannabis, a researcher from Wits I think did that academic work?..It has been proven, yup there was weed in his pipe, among others.

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Some classic quotes to end off my input here ;) RIP Bill..

“I think it's interesting the two drugs that are legal, alcohol and cigarettes, two drugs that do absolutely nothing for you at all, are legal, and the drugs that might open your mind up to realize how badly you're being fucked every day of your life? Those drugs are against the law. He-heh, coincidence?
I'm glad mushrooms are against the law, because I took them one time, and you know what happened to me? I laid in a field of green grass for four hours going, "My God! I love everything." Yeah, now if that isn't a hazard to our country … how are we gonna justify arms dealing when we realize that we're all one?” ― Bill Hicks

“You see, I think drugs have done some good things for us. I really do. And if you don't believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a favor. Go home tonight. Take all your albums, all your tapes and all your CDs and burn them. 'Cause you know what, the musicians that made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years were rrreal fucking high on drugs. The Beatles were so fucking high they let Ringo sing a few tunes.”
― Bill Hicks

Add a swathe of literature including pretty much all religious texts, through the ages to that burn!
“They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do just as well — you just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference.”
― Bill Hicks
“Why is marijuana against the law? It grows naturally upon our planet. Doesn’t the idea of making nature against the law seem to you a bit . . . unnatural?”
― Bill Hicks

“Always that same LSD story, you've all seen it. 'Young man on acid, thought he could fly, jumped out of a building. What a tragedy.' What a dick! Fuck him, he’s an idiot. If he thought he could fly, why didn’t he take off on the ground first? Check it out. You don’t see ducks lined up to catch elevators to fly south—they fly from the ground, ya moron, quit ruining it for everybody. He’s a moron, he’s dead—good, we lost a moron, fuckin’ celebrate. Wow, I just felt the world get lighter. We lost a moron! I don’t mean to sound cold, or cruel, or vicious, but I am, so that’s the way it comes out. Professional help is being sought.Wouldn't you like to see a positive LSD story on the news? To base your decision on information rather than scare tactics and superstition? Perhaps? Wouldn't that be interesting? Just for once?
Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Heres Tom with the Weather.”
― Bill Hicks

“I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your fuckin' mouth.”
― Bill Hicks
“I know this is not a very popular idea. You don't hear it too often any more … but it's the truth. I have taken drugs before and … I had a real good time. Sorry. Didn't murder anybody, didn't rape anybody, didn't rob anybody, didn't beat anybody, didn't lose – hmm – one fucking job, laughed my ass off, and went about my day. Sorry. Now, where's my commercial?”
― Bill Hicks

“There are essentially only two drugs that Western civilization tolerates: Caffeine from Monday to Friday to energize you enough to make you a productive member of society, and alcohol from Friday to Monday to keep you too stupid to figure out the prison that you are living in.”
― Bill Hicks
“Here is my final point...About drugs, about alcohol, about pornography...What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, or take into my body as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet? And for those who are having a little moral dilemma in your head about how to answer that question, I'll answer it for you. NONE of your fucking business. Take that to the bank, cash it, and go fucking on a vacation out of my life.”
― Bill Hicks

Just go fish..:)

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