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 Posted: Wed May 16th, 2018 02:00 pm
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willem wikkel spies
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Seems that many wants to compare new fishing equipment.

in this day and age, technology is so fast that we need to upgrade our fishing tackle every 6 months or so.

it has to be bad for the fishing shops, keeping stock and if they do not sell in the first 6 months then all is now old stock.

so, how many of you try and keep up with the tackle?

i'm old school, I don't need new tackle yet. and also, prices have gone up ridiculously to such a point that we cannot keep up.....imho

and do all of this new innovations in the manufacturing process really make you a better angler getting your results up, catching more fish?

or is it about keeping up with the Jones?

lets see your comments....lol ;)

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 Posted: Wed May 16th, 2018 02:37 pm
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Hi Willem

Na my onlangse grunter-sukses met vleglyn, ligte gerei en sirkelhoekies het ek nou begin gallies en ander bankvis teiken met dieselfde strategie.

Vir laasgenoemde gebruik ek nou vleglyn en koffiemeul met sirkelhoekies van grootte #1 en #1/0. Ek vind dat ek meer sukses behaal so. Die ouens in die tydskrifte was reg. Ek verloor nie meer so baie sinkers en vis soos in die verlede toe ek nog multipliers en nylon gebruik het.

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 Posted: Wed May 16th, 2018 03:12 pm
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I don't think new gear every 6 months will make you a better angler, but new gear is great!

If you fish a multiplier, then a new multiplier will probably only make you feel good inside.  You will most likely have your old one dialed in to your thumb and brain.  But like Spook mentioned (and you have to love that he only ever uses the purest Afrikaans), braid on a grinder has it's advantages. Braid is so thin that even in heavy sea days your sinker stays in place if you fish a short mono leader on thin braid as it does not get pulled about as much as heavier mono would.  You don't need a new reel for this, you could just re-spool an older reel and give it a go, but the rod eyes would eventually need replacing - so you might as well have bought a new rod anyway.  So now of course you need a new reel to match you lighter, faster braid rod setup...

It's really only a move to braid that requires new reel and rod, IMO.  Otherwise fish whatever makes you happy!   Besides, most new gear is of incredible quality and can be easily serviced to give decades of use. New drags and replacing old bearings and line will mean good as new.  If you scratch for Galies etc - your gear gets scratched quickly, even if you look after it.  It just happens on the rocks and your gear takes a beating, so no real point upgrading.

However, nothing better than new fishing gear!

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 Posted: Wed May 16th, 2018 11:15 pm
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willem wikkel spies
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ok, when you have to buy for yourself all is good.
we do quite a lot of angling facets.

carp fishing.
bass fishing
rock and surf fishing
deep sea fishing.
currently we have 18 rods and reels...enough to open my old shop.
it does sound like plenty....upgrade them all, what amount will I have to spend?

so it is not that much, but when is it enough.

yes equipment do get cosmetic damages, even if they look bad, they need to be good on the inside.
that is what matters. and with the current reels were are getting, depending of the amount of fishing you are doing you should only need to upgrade when your reel is mike tango and spares no longer available...

remember bling does not catch fish.

just like now, all the years I have been using the normal Kendal round hooks. I caught many fish with them, they were cheap and they served me very well.

dahichi hooks were the in thing.....at a stage, but I do not like them.
they rust like crazy and cost plenty a penny.

so eventually i started using gripp hooks, all stainless steel type.
they are fly hooks but have a nice range.
so I went over to them.
they are not cheap, but they do not rust like the others.

if they do start rusting, I just wipe them clean.
due to being stainless steel, I can even re sharpen them.

and yes, new equipment is also nice to have.
they need to earn themselves by working in providing you with pleasure and thus they will run through the mill eventually.

great to hear that your change in tackle caused you to catch more fish.

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 Posted: Thu May 17th, 2018 12:25 am
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I believe that the bling will not bring you more fish, it's the anglers skill and knowledge that decides success.I have my multipliers with nylon and have my grinders with braid and are equally successful with nylon or braid.Fish with J hooks and cheap circles and still manage to outfish guys with the latest technology, expensive rods and reels.My 2c

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 Posted: Thu May 17th, 2018 08:39 pm
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Adrian Coerecius
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I use to purchase lots of tackle until I sat still and calculated the costs incurred. At that very point I told my crew and myself that no further purchases will be made until we have recovered the costs in fish. This include the capital outlay for my twin motor Yamaha Explorer vessel. I bought tackle as consolation when I had a mombak; now just imagine how many times we mombakked to accumulate this kind of tackle.
No less than 14 rods of various type from R&S to boat rods
Slightly more reels than rods and not the cheap type either
We have lost count of how many fish we caught already and thus far only one rod failure - 7.2ft Shimano Vengaence that broke when I reeled in a average size Westcoast Stump (had a weakspot) but managed to boat him. Here and there a rod tip eyes damaged. I also said that I will not replenish stock if absolutely necessary. I still find it tempting to buy more if I enter a tackle shop.What I did find is that the cheaper ones catch just as many as the more expensive ones and this alter my mind every time; and restrict me from acquiring more of something I don't really need.

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 Posted: Thu May 17th, 2018 08:57 pm
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Having come back to the hobby after many years I for one have definitely seen the evolution of tackle. Back when I was active spinning reels were almost exclusively for scratching and light tackle fishing and multipliers were the only route to go for serious anglers today with the technological advances spinning reels are at the fore. Ultimately with the way the world goes why do we carry smartphones and not the half kilo Nokia's? Everyone wants to keep abreast of the latest trends and take cognicence(spelling?) Of the value that these advances may have in getting u a hook up. At the end of the day when we walk into a tackle store the term "kid in a candy store" comes to mind I just can't resist😀

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 Posted: Fri May 18th, 2018 12:28 am
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dit maak nie saak wat ek het en hoe oud of nuut dit is nie ek sukkel my tos los om iets te vang . behalwe nuwe tackle gee nuwe raad asb WWS

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 Posted: Fri May 18th, 2018 09:23 am
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Mens vang nie meer vis met nuwe tackle nie, maar jy vang lekkerder! Dit hou so 6 maande dan moet jy weer verander om dieselfde “gevoel” te kry 😬

Im a bit of a “loose lady” when it comes to tackle. I like trying new reels and rods. But I have a limit... for instance, the new Berkley Anaconda... WOW WOW WOW... youre talking perfection, youre talking Allison Stokke (ironically) in fishing rod terms. But Im not paying R6k for a rod, I honestly cant justify it.

But its not always true that things get more expensive. Take the Adranaline Tripple X rods fo example. Its a relative cheap rod that can do what all the others can and will probably outlast some of the more expensive blanks... The same goes for the Daiwa BG spinning reels, more technology in a more affordable reel.

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Blikkiesvis wrote:
Mens vang nie meer vis met nuwe tackle nie, maar jy vang lekkerder! Dit hou so 6 maande dan moet jy weer verander om dieselfde “gevoel” te kry 😬

Im a bit of a “loose lady” when it comes to tackle. I like trying new reels and rods. But I have a limit... for instance, the new Berkley Anaconda... WOW WOW WOW... youre talking perfection, youre talking Allison Stokke (ironically) in fishing rod terms. But Im not paying R6k for a rod, I honestly cant justify it.

But its not always true that things get more expensive. Take the Adranaline Tripple X rods fo example. Its a relative cheap rod that can do what all the others can and will probably outlast some of the more expensive blanks... The same goes for the Daiwa BG spinning reels, more technology in a more affordable reel.


XXX nou daais vir jou ' value for money'.
I vowed not to buy new rods, yet as I did not own an HMG bought the XXX 13ft spin option being used with my Torium 20.Totaly satisfied with the rod.

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 Posted: Fri May 18th, 2018 11:34 am
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nantes wrote:
dit maak nie saak wat ek het en hoe oud of nuut dit is nie ek sukkel my tos los om iets te vang . behalwe nuwe tackle gee nuwe raad asb WWS

hoor nou net!!!
jyt darem n halwe vis in jou hatch!

alhoewel hy getax is.
newwat ons try maar met die ou gerei.
die enigste ding nodig op ou tackle is nuwe lyn wat jy kan vetrou........

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 Posted: Fri May 18th, 2018 11:37 am
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willem wikkel spies
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BigBen wrote:
Blikkiesvis wrote:
Mens vang nie meer vis met nuwe tackle nie, maar jy vang lekkerder! Dit hou so 6 maande dan moet jy weer verander om dieselfde “gevoel” te kry 😬

Im a bit of a “loose lady” when it comes to tackle. I like trying new reels and rods. But I have a limit... for instance, the new Berkley Anaconda... WOW WOW WOW... youre talking perfection, youre talking Allison Stokke (ironically) in fishing rod terms. But Im not paying R6k for a rod, I honestly cant justify it.

But its not always true that things get more expensive. Take the Adranaline Tripple X rods fo example. Its a relative cheap rod that can do what all the others can and will probably outlast some of the more expensive blanks... The same goes for the Daiwa BG spinning reels, more technology in a more affordable reel.


XXX nou daais vir jou ' value for money'.
I vowed not to buy new rods, yet as I did not own an HMG bought the XXX 13ft spin option being used with my Torium 20.Totaly satisfied with the rod.


precisely.

new tackle recommendations is a night mare.
rather fish with the tried and tested if you want to buy new tackle.

old tackle works just as well!

if you are a newbie, in the sport then new tackle might just put you in a disadvantaged spot instead of teh other way around.

if your a league angler and you want to treat yourself....that is fine, it is your TOM!

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 Posted: Fri May 18th, 2018 12:52 pm
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Personally, if you have the bucks and like to splash out, happy days and lucky you! However, referring to the main parts now... rod + reel + basic line (good enough mono - your choice)... if it's working for you, it's well maintained, why change? Meaning, I know many tip top anglers in Moz + SA that's still fishing with toriums (old type) or SL50s... no braid, no fancy rod, and yes they do catch fish. Sometimes it boils down to - reading the conditions - bait presentation and a bit of luck. It doesn't mean the chap that have a R 5000 outfit will catch fish... experience counts + luck....LOL, With luck, the "lucky" person must also know how to handle / land the fish, otherwise, he will end up "unlucky"

You do get super new lures, take the Squid 360 that came out a few years ago, I bought like 10 of them, they caught many fish, so yes some new stuff will give you the edge for sure. Some new Rapalas swim deeper, have a better action - so yes indeed it is a multi million dollar market, so new stuff will pop up weekly.

Come to think...way back in the very 90s, when we started going onto the newer type multi pliers, some old skool toppies "stuck it out" with Penn 500s + 49rs..Likewise I have learned the trade with them too. I used them Senators 6/0 + 4/0 + wide spool 49rs on my boat right up to the early 2000s, simply because they worked for me, easy to clean and svc. Now... OK lets look at the TLD 25 / 20 /15 they've been around ages, still going strong... and will be around for years to come. I have loads of them too, likewise when Penn "sticked out" with the Squall range, I have them too 60LD / 50LD / 40LD, good reels, tuff ect.. like I said I have a few of them as well - but compare the price of a Penn Squall 60LD vs a Shim TLD 25... the TLD 25 will cost less... It will give you the same amount of years of service ect... so it goes to show, some good stuff cost less, and are in demand hence cheaper.

Moral of the story...."lures don't catch fish - lures catch people".... If you have the cash, go ahead and enjoy!

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" I have come to the conclusion that buying fishing tackle and actually using it is two separate hobbies "

I need my fishing fix and the only way i get enough is by tinkering with what i have or buying something new.( Bits and pieces do me , the odd lure or ten every now and then does the my soul wonders. Its still cheaper than going to a bar and at least you have something to show for it ) .
My fishing sessions have some what dried up over the last 5 yrs with the introductions to the family and life did a 360 from having a lot of freedom to fish to next to none.
I still try get to the waters edge once a week , but that's all about getting my toddlers fishing and onto some fish.
Now with the introduction of club sports the schedule is even more hectic , then one adds in a kids birthday party every second weekend ........

To keep my sanity , i need to read / watch / play / buy something fishy.

I have drawn the line in the sand so to speak and refuse to buy top end - stella's etc
I have always been happy with my mid range gear - stradics , sustains etc.for spinning and my overheads are toriums etc. Look after them and they will look after you .
Keeping them clean and smooth , using good line and they will land the same fish as the top end gear.
I still have a shimano speed master that's got to be 20 yrs plus old and its still a machine. Installed new drag washers and its as smooth as the day i got it.

Doesn't matter what car you drive the road is still the same distance . ;)

Have fun doing what you love be it with the top end gear or a hand line its all the same .... just get out there enjoy natures show .;)

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agree with Willo - buying and using are 2 different hobbies - both enjoyable and good for my soul

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