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 Posted: Thu Mar 29th, 2018 07:30 pm
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Going good, timewise! You are pushing the time on curing! Seal all that you need to seal, allow at leat 12h to cure!
Otherwise you will end up with the same! Use a proper epoxy and fiber to close the holes.

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Using only the best money can buy for the long term!

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DAY 6

Timmy came off a 12 hour night shift and had another night shift the same day 12 hours later with the approaching weekend off, really take my hat off to the guy for still managing to squeeze some work in the same day.

Started by closing all the old holes on the outside of the transom, there were some black lines drawn on the outside of the transom on day 5's post, the area between those lines will have to be build up slightly from the outside as the motor actually bent the outside as it had no support from the rotten transom on the inside.





Once that was done it was left to dry, after that the wood received it's coat of resin, I gotta say that looks like one solid piece of wood core.




Once the resin is dried up, it was time for more resin and fiber glassing the edges of the wood to the shell.

Looks like we are on track to have the transom fitted by the end of day 7, once again really good progress made by Timmy.




Knowing him he will probably continue working tomorrow coming from hardly any sleep and a crazy amount of work over the last few days.

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Hugo, as julle so aangaan is die boot vannaand klaar, hehe!Dat die goed maar eers mooi kuur, beplan julle skedule mooi en werk eers op ander plekke, soos jou stingers etc.

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Rian, thanks, daar is geen rush om die boot klaar te maak nie, ons kyk om als klaar te he in so maand in a half, regtig geen rush.

Thanks vir jou input maar Timmy is heel bewus van die curing tyd en happy met die curing voor hy verder werk aan wat moet gecure word. :)

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Hugo, jy sal maar 'n 50hp Yammie moet opsit met al daai hout! Ek grap regtig nou!!! Ek mis net my boot! Nou reen ek nat, en kan nie eers slaap nie met die center console nie!
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Ja Rian, a cabin bly maar my favourite, ek love die skuiling! haha

DAY 7 and 8.

So the initial fiber on the sides of the wood was left clamped to cure before anything else was done as well as all the holes that were filled on the outside.

The topside of the application was left open to be filled up with resin once curing was complete to fill any gaps.

We also decided to make the bottom plug the same plug as the deck in stead of a screw type plug.







After that curing the resin was pured in and left to cure for quite some time until anything was touched.




The next day Timmy was ready to level the backside of the transom that now had a bow shape to it, he said that with the observation of a straight edge along the back of the boat it needed between 3mm to 5mm of filling up, he applied 2 layers of matting to achieve this.






Next was doing the fiber on the inside to attach the wood, Timmy mentioned he would do 2-3 layers of matting on the inside, these layers will be overlapping each other in the area that will be supported by the motor to give additional strengthening.

You can see the overlapping just before the resin was applied.


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Coming along nicely, great job!

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Fully agreed, I have done plenty of boats in the past, this is progressing swiftly and the workmanship from the fotos looks good. Although, no longer in the boat business have I learned somthing from this! That is to concentrate on one boat and complete it in full! At some stages I had 4 boats in the workshop for a full revamp, at the end the critical details is not checked! We once had a old client that wanted a bulch pump in his Cabin, the labourer though it would be a good idea to drill holes through the hull to ensure it was secure. _seal1_, he is still on the adult missing list! No!, shame, he was so proud of his work that he showed me!:X

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Thanks for the compliments guys, I have forwarded all of them onto him, all the credit to him for doing this in the time and manner he has.

Timmy did mention that he wanted to complete the transom in and out before moving onto the floor, so next will be to finish the outside before he moving the floor.

The guys that attached or fixed the fuel tank did something similar Rian, I was out on my first trip with the boat one day at a local dam after they did the tank, I thought I saw the nose float a bit low when it was docked and I was observing it from the side, upon checking under the cabin forward seat (yes that far forward already) I saw water in the hull.

I freaked out as I knew the whole boat must be filled with water almost completely as the boat does lie stern heavy and the water is almost at the front end?

I tried to pull the boat out on to the trailer, snapped the winch strap almost right away because of all the weight, snapped a couple of ropes and with the help of multiple sources we got the boat out just enough so that we could get the drain plugs out the water, the weight was to much to keep going as nothing wanted to get the boat up the trailer and at this stage only about half of the boat was on the tailor, we couldn't get the rest on.

It took about 20-30 mins of constant water running out, it was an immense amount.

So now I had to see where this water was getting into the boat, these were the same people that installed the motor by the way and also responsible for why the transom is in the state it is, turns out, they screwed to nice long mild steal screws to hold the tank bracket straight through the deck and then through the outer layer of the hull and after that those screws were sticking out about 10mm under the boat, so much for workmanship?

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DAY 9

Timmy is back to afternoon shift this week so he can only work on the boat till around 12pm as he has to go to work around 2pm so progress will be a little bit slower this week.

Next week however he is off the whole week so he is looking at capitalizing on the time.

So up until this point the transom is fitted and Timmy was very happy with how solid it came out, everything was properly cured and as mentioned he wanted to finish the transom before moving onto the floor, but first, he made himself a sanding tool.

He wasn't happy with the length of the electric sander he had as he wanted something with length to level the outside of the transom so this is what he created:





After sanding the result on the outside was not as expected and there was still some bow to it caused by the collapsed transom and the weight of the motor, he is still gonna give it his best shot to get it as level as he possibly can, as mentioned in the first post, there will be a 8mm stainless backing plate mounted on the outside of the transom to distribute the force and weight of the motor.





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DAY 10

Not a whole lot done today besides more materials bought and some sanding.

The bow at the top of the transom is still quite a problem so it will require more mating to get the whole transom completely flat.

You can see in the pictures below that the transom does move away from the level as you move to the top where the top mounting bolts of the motor used to be, the damaged caused was worse what we initially though, Timmy is confident he will get it flat it will just take more matting.

The 2 black vertical lines on the transom is the area requiring attention.




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DAY 11

So more matting was placed on the top of the transom to fill it up and eventually get it even.

While that was left to cure Timmy started ripping out the last piece of rotten wood in this boat and that is the vertical piece as you enter the cabin, the step is obviously very weak and needs to be rebuilt as there are also no stringers holding it, more text below with the pictures.







So this is the plate that will go on the outside, it will be trimmed as its to big for what we want it for and it weighs around 22kg's which is unnecessary weight I dont want, the plate is a great template as well for where the new mounting holes will go. This is the plate we fitted when I wanted to use the boat temporary but I ended up never using it.



As you can see it's still not flush with the top and thats the gap that still needs to be filled, unfortunately this is a setback we only became aware of 2 days ago.



The gap is much more visible from this angle.



So these are the shots taken of the wooden plank inside the cabin that was taken off, it was hanging on for dear life with shot stringers, a shot plate and that small piece of fiber glass visible in the picture.



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Also today, the 10 push button switches arrived for the new switch panel.
These have a blue LED ring on the face that lights up once the switch is pressed and all these switches are latched.
I can not wait to see what the panel is going to look like with these, 1 switch and 3 plugs are all ready on their way to Dewald who is a friend of mine that will be attaching a relay to 3 of these as they are only rated to 2A.
The 3 major power consumers is the stereo, the amp and the bilge pump.

For what the info is worth, the company that came up with these switches, Bocatech, charge around R800 for a 20A switch IP67 rated, times that for 10 switches plus your acrylic dash panel, you looking at 10k for a panel!

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DAY 12

Pretty good progress made today.

Started off with leveling the matting from yesterday and Timmy got it to a level that he was happy with. He has been having loads of trouble getting that 22kg plate on and off for where the motor was going to be mounted.

After the area was marked off as in yesterdays post, he made some more adjustments and drawings to get the plate ready for fitment, the final fitment will obviously be done when the motor comes back on.

So first thing was prepping the holes for the stainless pipes to go in, we ended up going with 13mm (inside diameter of the pipe) and changed the plan back to 12mm motor mounting bolts in stead of the 14mm as initially planned.

Mounting holes lined up before drilling.


Stainless sleeves are sealed up and inserted:




Finished product:



We decided to keep the plate a little bit lower than the top of the transom as well as bevel it for obvious reasons to take away any sharpness it might have anywhere.



After the template was cut and finished:


So this is what the fitment will look like once the motor comes back, all the stainless backing plates inside and out will be polished for finishing.



Next will be to get the same done for the swim platforms, Timmy suggested fiber glassing the platforms onto the stern but I was not keen on the finish that it will provided no matter how neatly it was done.

So we will be going with a single row of bolts as high as possible on the platforms to prevent the downward flex.

As mentioned in previous posts, the attempted mounting of these platforms by the previous party was absolutely disgraceful, they will also be mounted 30mm inwards than previous to prevent the latch straps from damaging them as the latch hook extends past the bow eye to the point that it touches the platform.

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baie mooi en geluk met die vordering sover!!!

dis n lelike stuk staal plaat daai.
nie eintlik nodig nie, maar bly jou keuse.

onthou om nie weer gate in die hull te boor nie.....vir fish finder.
verleng eerder staal vanaf die staal plaat en mount fish finder dan daarop.

myne is op n motor bout.
dus wanneer boud uitkom is fishfinder ook los.

dan het jy nie onnodige worries nie.

hou so aan en sterkte verder

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willem wikkel spies wrote:
baie mooi en geluk met die vordering sover!!!

dis n lelike stuk staal plaat daai.
nie eintlik nodig nie, maar bly jou keuse.

onthou om nie weer gate in die hull te boor nie.....vir fish finder.
verleng eerder staal vanaf die staal plaat en mount fish finder dan daarop.

myne is op n motor bout.
dus wanneer boud uitkom is fishfinder ook los.

dan het jy nie onnodige worries nie.

hou so aan en sterkte verder


Thanks ek sal die kompliment aan Timmy oordra.

Die plaat idee kom van bote of wat ek in Australia gesien het, baie van die Haines Hunter bote wat ek gesien het met engines 200hp en op het a backing plate op. Ek het van hulle gesien van verskeie meteriaal gemaak van Kevlar, staal en nog ander.

Die backing plate is daar om die load oor a groter area te versprei, dis glad nie vir finishing doeleindes nie maar thanks vir die input!

Hier is a foto van 2 bote wat ek in Adelaide afgeneem het met backing plates in die gemerkte rooi area:



Oor die fishfinder, thanks, ek gebruik a polypropylene backing plate wat hulle a stern saver noem, hy word met 2 skroewe permanent vas gesit en dis ook soos a backing plate vir enige transducer accessories. Die doel van hom is om nie onnodig gate in jou hulle te boor nie maar eerder in die stern saver en jou transom is nooit compromised nie want jy boor nooit reg deur die hele plaat nie, paar pics van dit hieronder:


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cool

loer ook hier:

http://www.boatfishing.co.za/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2270&start=10

en hier

http://www.boatfishing.co.za/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=3768&start=10

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Willem, thanks vir jou input, hoe weet jy of jou transducer op daai manier altyd level is en op die regte is vir wanneer die boot n gear is?

Ek vra maar want as jy down en sidescan het kan dit jou return image nogal heelwat affect.

Die transducer mouting plate is deel van die finishing so die opsie is altyd daar om dit net vas te seel in plaas van boor. Dis nog nie iets wat ons regtig bespreek het nie.

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DAY 13 & 14

Ok so lots of sanding today, the transom is now flattened and primed for the purpose of sealing it so no water can intrude while he carries on with the rest even though the boat is standing under a roof.

So thats the first major job of the transom done, I think he did great time wise to get this complete on day 13, I thought I was full of sh@t with how I want stuff done but he is even worse.










So next up, more grinding, Timmy is working the tough shift this week boat wise so he wont have much time after work to get much done but he is still making progress, the floor is now being prepped for the stringers and the deck, the goal is to have the floor with the tank and deck fitted complete by the end of next week.

Next week he will be off the whole week so time will be more on our side then.



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