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 Posted: Sun Oct 1st, 2017 12:12 pm
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Hi is the .35 suffix xstrong better than the synergy? Or should I use .40 rather?
With the .35 when I loosen my sinker the line snaps and my guides are ok no nicks:X:X:X

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Gummi, more information will be required..I suppose the gents can comment on which is the better of the 2 lines but we don't know what your intended application is..

ie. what are you targeting? - what oz sinkers are being used etc..

Also, have you considered a fluro .55 -.60 as a leader to take the pressure off the cast?

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 Posted: Mon Oct 2nd, 2017 10:50 pm
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Hi thanks for the reply i aan currently using a 6 ounce sinker with a .60 leader.the problem i have is sometimes when I want to check my bait and loosen the grapple sinker then the line just snaps..So basically I'm looking for a strong .35 mainline. Because I'm using a daiwa sl30. When use .40 and waded a little then I don't have much line left...hope this helps
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Howsit, please try .40 double x high abrasion yellow (24lb).

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Thanks bud I will

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I fish a SL30....Torium 14, Trini 14. My line is Double X Extra Abrasion Camo 0.40/12.2kg. I love the line because it casts lekker and on retrieve lays nicely on the reel. I use a Suffix Zippy 0.55 and 0.60 casting trace. Never had a problem.
If the current is very strong you can generally leave a grab.....but if its not that strong and starts to bury deep.....move your grab from time to time so it does not bury too deep and you battle to loosen on retrieve.....or try a cone. If the fish aren't biting, moving you rig in a bit every now and again is a good thing.....might get more action depending where fish are lying. You can also try a 5 ounce. I fish a 4 and 5 ounce....only use a grapple as a last resort.

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Thanks for the valuable tips surfboy Will try that _seal1_

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Are you using wire grabs or the plastic weed eater type grabs? Whenever I used the plastic grabs I used to snap my .40 line when trying to retrieve after I've beeen laying long because the grabs didnt release. If using the wire type grabs, always make sure to bend the wire open a bit so it releases easier when pulled.

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I'm using the wire grabs.. also spoke to Faried and advised to bend the wire just where the grove starts not in the middle of the groove..result easier release:cool:

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Hi guys did some investigating and found that i do not regularly wet my line before casting because I noticed white spots on my line which was caused by my finger while casting..causing weak spots hopefully that is the reason why my line snaps... Thanks for the advice and input much appreciated

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gummi1 wrote:
Hi guys did some investigating and found that i do not regularly wet my line before casting because I noticed white spots on my line which was caused by my finger while casting..causing weak spots hopefully that is the reason why my line snaps... Thanks for the advice and input much appreciated

Years ago, I had the same issue of thumb heat friction on mono line while casting .....too much thumb control on big casts....especially the Daiwa X30SHA (super fast) As soon as this happens turn your line around on your reel or throw line away....the day you hook you trophy fish.....you will thank fishing Gods that you can trust your line integrity. I solved my problem of being a "thumb control freak" by having Cuban fit magnetic cast control (Mag-it) to all my multiplier reels (6 reels).....although out of 45 years of pure habit.....my thumb still "hovers" in position over my line......never had a burn again.....with magnetic control.....Mag-it then also gave me the confidence in loading braid.....now I can cast flat out even at night.

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Lol how much does it cost though?

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Can't remember exactly....it differs from reel to reel........imagine a SL30 is about R350....but suggest you try one reel first and take it for a spin....think you will be surprised. Works for me as blow ups and that sort of nonsense can mess up an entire fishing trip. Phone Wilhelm Kritzinger (aka Cuban cigar) 072 186 0670 for a price/quote.....nothing to lose.

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Thanks a mil will do::tclaph

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interesting aspects!!!

yes it is indeed technical....finding out the hard way, is unfortunately the sad way...


Ok, 6 ounce for 0,35 mm is far to heavy, especially when using grapnels, but this is my opinion.

obviously the terrain and area you are fishing in will determine the sinker weight.
0,35 is quite thin.

do note, that most lines are covered which assists in casting for a few times.
this then wears off.

cast controlling should be done on the side of the spool, not on the line itself.

also take note.
line gets nicked plenty, and when you need it, you loose it.

just think of it this way.
rather fish heavy in rocky areas.
0,55mm at least with a lighter hook snoot.

cause the first time you loose line, it is lying in the area. this means your next cast might be into your broken line.....causing you to loose more line and again, and eventually you need to move off the spot because of your line causing troubles.

I too started off using 0,40 mm, then went to 0,45 mm, then to 0,50 mm, then to 0,55mm now I am on 0,58mm main line on the heavy reels with 0,50 mm on the lighter set ups.

0,45 is also used, but only on a spare reel.

I would use this for some grunter/ pompano and stompie fishing on sand banks with no rocky outcrops.

this is my 2cents, you still need to decide what rout you will be taking

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willem wikkel spies wrote:
interesting aspects!!!

yes it is indeed technical....finding out the hard way, is unfortunately the sad way...


Ok, 6 ounce for 0,35 mm is far to heavy, especially when using grapnels, but this is my opinion.

obviously the terrain and area you are fishing in will determine the sinker weight.
0,35 is quite thin.

do note, that most lines are covered which assists in casting for a few times.
this then wears off.

cast controlling should be done on the side of the spool, not on the line itself.

also take note.
line gets nicked plenty, and when you need it, you loose it.

just think of it this way.
rather fish heavy in rocky areas.
0,55mm at least with a lighter hook snoot.

cause the first time you loose line, it is lying in the area. this means your next cast might be into your broken line.....causing you to loose more line and again, and eventually you need to move off the spot because of your line causing troubles.

I too started off using 0,40 mm, then went to 0,45 mm, then to 0,50 mm, then to 0,55mm now I am on 0,58mm main line on the heavy reels with 0,50 mm on the lighter set ups.

0,45 is also used, but only on a spare reel.

I would use this for some grunter/ pompano and stompie fishing on sand banks with no rocky outcrops.

this is my 2cents, you still need to decide what rout you will be taking


Very good advice.

I still prefer 0.40 mm in favor casting distance. If you have overruns, better to go .045mm

If there are rocks in the surf, never 0.40 mm, go thicker.

If you go thin mainline and 5oz or heavier lead, leader is a an absolute necessity.

Happy fishing :)

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Pieter Immelman wrote:
willem wikkel spies wrote:
interesting aspects!!!

yes it is indeed technical....finding out the hard way, is unfortunately the sad way...


Ok, 6 ounce for 0,35 mm is far to heavy, especially when using grapnels, but this is my opinion.

obviously the terrain and area you are fishing in will determine the sinker weight.
0,35 is quite thin.

do note, that most lines are covered which assists in casting for a few times.
this then wears off.

cast controlling should be done on the side of the spool, not on the line itself.

also take note.
line gets nicked plenty, and when you need it, you loose it.

just think of it this way.
rather fish heavy in rocky areas.
0,55mm at least with a lighter hook snoot.

cause the first time you loose line, it is lying in the area. this means your next cast might be into your broken line.....causing you to loose more line and again, and eventually you need to move off the spot because of your line causing troubles.

I too started off using 0,40 mm, then went to 0,45 mm, then to 0,50 mm, then to 0,55mm now I am on 0,58mm main line on the heavy reels with 0,50 mm on the lighter set ups.

0,45 is also used, but only on a spare reel.

I would use this for some grunter/ pompano and stompie fishing on sand banks with no rocky outcrops.

this is my 2cents, you still need to decide what rout you will be taking


Very good advice.

I still prefer 0.40 mm in favor casting distance. If you have overruns, better to go .045mm

If there are rocks in the surf, never 0.40 mm, go thicker.

If you go thin mainline and 5oz or heavier lead, leader is a an absolute necessity.

Happy fishing :)


Just talking mono....the last few years I have moved from 0.36 to 0.40, also spend most of my time fishing beach...sandy....with a shock leader 0.55. Throw 5 oz sinker....with strip baits.....4 oz sinker with combo or sardine.....must admit....I have been tempted to move up to 0.45/0.48....line is just easier, but lose distance and line capacity....I generally fish Trini 14 and Torium 14....so line capacity is a worry if one hooks a big steamer. When I do fish off the rocks....I use SL30 or Torium 20 with 0.5....or 80 lb Sufix braid.

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Much appreciated it does make a lot of sense what you're saying i mostly surf fish and i have my torium 30 setup with .55 suffix extra strong and i will take your advise on going to maybe .42.I certainly don't want to lose my trophy fish. Last month I had had 3 big runs and the fish just spat the bait out due to using small hooks. Ja i learned the hard way rush..recently not having confidence in my line so Ja will go thicker!!!😁😁😊

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