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Jacques1982

New member
Hi i am entering the world of braid and my wife just said i can get the 4 Okuma Powerliner 865 i have been eyeing for a while now. Now please i know its not a shimano or daiwa, but that is what i can afford and i am going to klaserie in September so i need them before then. My other choice is the Okuma Trio Rex Arena

Now i want to put braid on one of the spools.
Now i see there is Boss Braid Power plus for about 400rand 600 meter 0,22 mm 50lb. Now this is very thin. The reel can apparently take 570 meters 0.3 mm line. So 600 meters of 0.22 mm line wont be enough for the reel.
My question is can i put on about 50 meters of 0,3 mm mono linr on the back then the 600 meter Boss Braid and then the rest somthing like the Pioneer Pro 50lb 0.36mm braid.

I hope i explained it well enough for the experts to help out here. Im on a budget so any suggestions will be welcome.

Thanks Jacques.
 
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HennieB

Sealiner
Yes you can put mono on as backing and then join the braid and mono. That way the braid won't "slip" on the spool. It's also advisable to use a mono leader with braid.

What is the price on the Okuma Powerliner?
 
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jonathanw

Member
Hi All,

I use a set of powerliners, not bad entry level big pit reels, I picked mine up at Toys for Boyz in Kempton a few years ago for R480 each, last time I checked the were going for about a grand a piece, at that price you might add a little extra and maybe go for Diawas.

Regards

Jonathan
 
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HennieB

Sealiner
Mmmm I see they are about R1000 each at Ganis, for that price the Daiwa Crosscast S is a way better option and the spool takes a ton of line. There is a shop in Pretoria that still has 3 x Crosscast X reels that comes with 2 spools going for R1100 each. You will not find a better reel for the price.
 
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Fishpaste

Sealiner
I agree with Hennie on this one. If the Okuma is around a grand a piece...rather look at the Daiwa Crosscast. Braids that I have been hearing good reviews on is the Rovex.
 
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Jacques1982

New member
Thanks i will look into those opsions, i will only be able to make a purchase in two months, i have a bit of cash being payed out then. I like the Daiwa and the shimano. I see there are Shimano at sportsmans warehouse for 1500, but at the moment my budget is round 1000 rand. I am also looking to get a small inflatable as the canoo is just a pain and i can get one for about 8000 with trolling motor and battery. I am looKing at all the options right now, so i have a good idea when its time to make the purchase. All your inputs are much appreciated
Thanks guys
 
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Jacques1982

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Thanks i will look into those opsions, i will only be able to make a purchase in two months, i have a bit of cash being payed out then. I like the Daiwa and the shimano. I see there are Shimano at sportsmans warehouse for 1500, but at the moment my budget is round 1000 rand. I am also looking to get a small inflatable as the canoo is just a pain and i can get one for about 8000 with trolling motor and battery. I am looKing at all the options right now, so i have a good idea when its time to make the purchase. All your inputs are much appreciated
Thanks guys
 
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HennieB

Sealiner
Leader length depends on the depth you're fishing, I use anything from 3 meters up to 10-12 meters. Normally 0.45-0.55mm dia
 
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Jacques1982

New member
HennieB wrote:
Leader length depends on the depth you're fishing, I use anything from 3 meters up to 10-12 meters. Normally 0.45-0.55mm dia
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ok great, on the reals that i have been using i had, 0,3 mono line with 0,4 leader. It worked well, but its nice to know i can go to a 0,5 mono. I had about two rod lengths of leader on. I was just making sure. Thanks again.

I know that you guys say i should get the daiwa reels, i watched a video not too long ago with a guy fishing with a okuma trio, he said that he always fished with daiwa, but this okuma is the best reel he has fished with, so i was under the impression that it was a great reel.

I know alot of equipment in all aspects are sometimes very underrated, but i like too keep myself open to suggestions and ideas. I had the okuma in my hand and was very impressed. I havent seen the others so i cannot say anything about them. I will be going to ganis in two weeks and then check what they have and then decide from there. I have a list of about 12 reels on my list. Daiwa emcast,crosscast, Okuma trio, powerliner, axion, rovex big boss, Docks trophy, Banax Helicon and a few others i don't remember. So yes i am still open till i pay. I want to see all of them before i make a decision.
 
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toli

Senior Member
As far as I know, the new okuma range of reels and rods(freshwater) is now under sensation...

Its all about personal prev, But with shimano and Diawa you will get quality that will last for years, even if it is the entry level range, and you will obviously sell it easily the day you want to upgrade or sell your tackle, im not so sure with okuma that you will get the same value, been there done that.

I would also not consider the rovex or the Banax as a good option.
 
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Jacques1982

New member
O i understand this, but i have two boys that i will pass them down to. I have two rovex nexiums, and cant really complain. Sure not the best, but you pay what you can afford.I was an apprentice when i bought them. I will defonately try getting the daiwa, but as far as the shimano big pits, i Haven't seen any big bit that i can afford which is a shame as most people can't fault them.

Maby i should scale down from 4 rods to 3 rods.
 
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HennieB

Sealiner
I have to agree with toli here, the Daiwa's and Shimmies have resale value and even the entry level reels are excellent quality.

Not knocking the Okuma's but they aren't in the same class not even mentioning Docks and Rovex. Especially when fishing at distance the reels and equipment in general take a hammering. The Okumas are also baitrunners, I'm very skeptical of any baitrunner apart from a Shimano. There's just so much more that can go wrong.

Don't fall into the trap of listening too much to dvd's and salesmen, they'll do anything to make a sale and have no regard for the customer.
 
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Jacques1982

New member
Im not necessarily looking for a baitrunner, that part does not bother me at all, just a nice big pit reels that can take me around 600 meters. I don't think i will fish those distances, but i want the option of those distances.
 
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HennieB

Sealiner
If you can stick to known brands, I can't stress it enough. I had 2 sets of Docks baitrunners, other guys bought Jackel in the end you pay double as the quality is just not the same.
 
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toli

Senior Member
I use to fish a 4 rod setup with Daiwa emcast spinning reels, but 4 rods was just to many as rod 1 and 2 would get a lot of effort and the good spots, rod 3 then placed anywhere i could find an open spot and then rod 4???? what to do with it,as it was just to much effort and most of the time in the way as I dont fish alone and do believe in line pressure.

Now I fish 2 rod setup with shimano baitrunners..

The shimanos feels smoother and more balanced, but the bait-runner is a load of nonsense and when casting a balls up as you have to tighten and set the bait-runner drag after every cast. so you do not save time with this, also one tends to forget to set the bait-runner.

Spinning is simple,fast, idiot proof, more compact,looks nicer and a lot cheaper than the bait-runner of the same quality.

So if I can redo my setup again(which is inevitable)

I would only fish a 2 rod setup with spinning reels.

Second hand reel is also a good option, as most anglers tend to look after their tackle
 
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