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 Posted: Mon Jan 23rd, 2017 10:44 pm
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Mouse
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Happy 2017 everyone

Its quite amazing that after our first experence of going to purchase a boat and being assaulted , wife and I have now eight months of looking on gumtree sites , going to all the boat shops , we are afraid  after all the comments of people being ripped off, lied too , boat sinking , that our nerves are getting the better of us .

Is it possible that we are being silly or is it really this hard to purchase a boat ??

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 Posted: Mon Jan 23rd, 2017 10:52 pm
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nantes
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NO ITS NOT . remember one thing . if someone is trying to sel you something thiers its always the best . even the boatshops wil lie to you . and there is a few dodgey oes around . even dodgey boat builders . you must have an idea of what you want . if you do know what you want take someone with that knows something about boats for their opnion. even if it is at a dealer .

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 Posted: Mon Jan 23rd, 2017 11:42 pm
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SPARODON
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I see you based in toti. Go and speak to Alfa or Ryan at durban yamaha. Yet to hear anything bad about them. Genuine guys and great aftersale service.

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 Posted: Tue Jan 24th, 2017 12:19 am
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willem wikkel spies
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just be patient!

the right boat at the right price will come along.
no rip off nothing.

it's out there.
keep on searching.

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 Posted: Tue Jan 24th, 2017 10:51 am
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IWyk
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Best bet would be Yeld Cat(best to take a drive up and go and see them) or Durban Yamaha.

The Yeld is the best and safest available Cat in my opinion. Workmanship is of the highest standard and anybody who has one will tell you it is the best.

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 Posted: Tue Jan 24th, 2017 11:08 am
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Limpopoking
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What is the intended use Mouse?

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 Posted: Tue Jan 24th, 2017 01:16 pm
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Hi,

Mostly escape , bit of fishing ,just chilling ,

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 Posted: Tue Jan 24th, 2017 01:31 pm
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Limpopoking
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Mouse wrote:
Hi,

Mostly escape , bit of fishing ,just chilling ,


Estuary?
Offshore?
How many people chilling with you?

If you're thinking of going small, then under 15hp and you don't have to worry about skippers and annual COF. What sort of boat have you been looking at?

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 Posted: Tue Jan 24th, 2017 01:47 pm
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Have all the tickets, we have been looking at a cobra 700 as well as a lee cat 800 express , they have the cover that we like , the boat that I eventually purchase will be moored in Durban

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 Posted: Tue Jan 24th, 2017 01:56 pm
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Limpopoking
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OK... Well that gives it some perspective. There is a lovely Magnum 25 for sale. The owner sadly passed away recently and by all accounts, his boat is in excellent shape.

https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-boats-jet-skis/somerset-west/magnum-25-walk-around/1001881532590910002211609

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 Posted: Tue Jan 24th, 2017 02:52 pm
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Mouse
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Favorite Fishing Spot: 400/3 Graphite ,Grandwave-x 50sh , Giant abrasive and 400/1 ...Stretch of beach between Karridene and Umkomaas. Durban Harb ...
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Looked at it , it used to be a full cabin converted to walk around , it is nice ,

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 Posted: Tue Jan 24th, 2017 02:55 pm
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Citation?

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 Posted: Tue Jan 24th, 2017 09:18 pm
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Citation 700 , saw photos of one ,now that's nice

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 Posted: Thu Jan 26th, 2017 05:47 pm
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Spin Doctor
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Equipment: Maxel rods and reels. Various lines.
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The Leecat has a bit of a lousy ride, but then so does the cobra 700 cat. This may not be so much of a problem in your area as the seas are generally a lot nicer than they are off Cape Point, which is where I do mot of my fishing.
The Citation 700 and 900 are both nice, especially for trolling, but all monos are "not so good" on the drift.
If you are after a boat of that size then have a look at the buttcat and gecat. I owned a Butt865 and now own a gecat 28 which I had extended to 31'. The butt was a bit heavy but otherwise excellent. The Gecat is the best boat I have ever owned. It runs very well and being a full walk around model there is literally acres of fishing space. I can also have up to 6 people all fishing on one side, which is perfect for tuna.
The only downside with cats is that they pound a bit when trolling directly into the chop; however we don't do much of that.
PS: If you would like to go for a spin on the Gecat then send me a PM. with luck I will also put you onto a few "proper" yellowfins. :)

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 Posted: Thu Jan 26th, 2017 07:42 pm
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IWyk
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Yelds, Toms and King Cats are probably the best cat's for the KZN coast.

Yeld's rule the roost with regards to build quality and probably the best riding/fishing Cat available. Have yet to hear any negative comments regarding them.

Seacat's are also nice and excellent service can be had from them in Durban.

Citation 700 and 900 are in a class of there own when it comes to Mono's.

I am looking to upgrade and am definitely going the Yeld route. They are available in FC and CC.

In the end you will choose what suites you best.

As you know, I would steer well clear of any BWB product.

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 Posted: Fri Jan 27th, 2017 11:13 am
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Geronimoo
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being a Mallards owner i would strongly suggest a Citation 700 or 900. The build quality of Mallards is exceptional.

My Swift 19 is now 10 years old and truly as good as new.

Who are BWB?

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 Posted: Fri Jan 27th, 2017 05:30 pm
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Spin Doctor
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Mallards boats are great. So are Yelds. But if you plan on keeping your boat in the water (as i do with my Gecat) then there is really no point in going for anything under 30'. There is also no point in incurring the cost of a trailer, which will just be lying around and probably costing money.
The citation 900 is an awesome boat, especially for marlin fishing/trolling applications.The fact that it has space to lie down and nap is a very big plus (yep, i sometimes nap when things are quiet). It would be right at the top of my list if I was based in KZN. cant see the point of the 700 unless you want to tow it around.
Both the Cobra 700 and 900 cats bang quite badly in a bad sea. The magnum 25 has the same problem. Not much of an issue in KZN though as sea conditions are seldom very bad.
Tomcats are also nice.
BWB if I'm not mistaken is a reference to Blue Water Boats. They look very good and the reviews are all good but I have heard some mixed reports re bulid quality.

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 Posted: Fri Jan 27th, 2017 06:24 pm
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IWyk
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Spin Doctor wrote:
BWB if I'm not mistaken is a reference to Blue Water Boats. They look very good and the reviews are all good but I have heard some mixed reports re bulid quality.

Steer well clear, looks can be very deceiving! Never trust any reviews you read in books, they are all good.

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 Posted: Fri Jan 27th, 2017 06:53 pm
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Thanks.
I don't know much about them; however I have yet to read a negative review of any boat in any boating or fishing mag.
according to Erwin Bursik and co all of the boats produced in SA are excellent.
If only this were true
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 Posted: Fri Jan 27th, 2017 09:05 pm
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Hi all ,

Thanks for all the advice coming here , and yes we do know what the initials mean , it was our first experience, do have a restraining order so we did win . Now to buy a boat , very exciting
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Thanks so much guys

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