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 Posted: Fri Jan 13th, 2017 09:46 pm
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Howzit gents

Just saw these rods being advertised on the fishing durban forum page on facebook earlier today.

Can anybody provide some insight about these rods? I see the rods come standard fitted wth fuji-k series guides and a fuji reel seat. But what about the blanks? Are they any good? Would like to hear some expert opinions.

These are the snaps I could get about these rods.

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Second rod

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Third rod

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 Posted: Fri Jan 13th, 2017 10:20 pm
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Azores are not fitted with Fuji K's but facsimiles thereof.. you can only expect so much for the price...
Mechanical casting aid = bionic finger / Breakaway Cannon.


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 Posted: Fri Jan 13th, 2017 11:17 pm
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I've been working on the rods and testing and fine tuning them since end of October 2016

Azores is a Price Point rod with generic type K series with SiC ring and only the longer models having Triggers

The Metaloid is a beast and in my opinion the most versatile and best balanced of the lot. With the 14'6" we've easily cast a 7oz and Tail head

The MAkaira is a monster in 14'6 and 15' Kobie has been fishing the 15' since November in tests from Struisbaai, through Jeffreys and in East London. In testing the rad was used to cast an 8oz and 300gr dummy bait.

The Blanks are manufactured in the Okuma factory in Taiwan.

Each blank is stress and load tested before they even start building on them and then completed rods (random) goes through the same rigorous testing again.

Rods ar emade of Toray HMG and are the rods you are looking for with casting performance you are looking for in the Price range you are looking for

Azores R1500-1900
Metaloid R2600-2800
Makaira R3600-3800

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Enigma wrote:
I've been working on the rods and testing and fine tuning them since end of October 2016

Azores is a Price Point rod with generic type K series with SiC ring and only the longer models having Triggers

The Metaloid is a beast and in my opinion the most versatile and best balanced of the lot. With the 14'6" we've easily cast a 7oz and Tail head

The MAkaira is a monster in 14'6 and 15' Kobie has been fishing the 15' since November in tests from Struisbaai, through Jeffreys and in East London. In testing the rad was used to cast an 8oz and 300gr dummy bait.

The Blanks are manufactured in the Okuma factory in Taiwan.

Each blank is stress and load tested before they even start building on them and then completed rods (random) goes through the same rigorous testing again.

Rods ar emade of Toray HMG and are the rods you are looking for with casting performance you are looking for in the Price range you are looking for

Azores R1500-1900
Metaloid R2600-2800
Makaira R3600-3800


Thanks for the detail report Enigma. I really appreciate this. So if I were to buy the metaloid, i would be investing in a solid rod?

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 Posted: Sat Jan 14th, 2017 03:34 pm
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I just picked up the 15' Makaira today and I'm going to give it a throw this afternoon. I'll give whatever feedback I can in the next few days.

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 Posted: Sat Jan 14th, 2017 07:27 pm
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Guys....!!!

Don't do this to me! Been hiding the Zim$ from the wife saving for a (don't want to start a fight), let's say well known Medium FSSC. But now... Metaloid R700 cheaper. Toray HMG... Fuji K's...

Really don't know now. I love my (very well know brand) but in these times R700 is R700...

Planning on pairing the rod with a Okuma Rovex Salt.

Your thoughts guys?

Ps. Don't want to start a brand war here just want good fishing advice.

Thanks in advance.
Abram

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 Posted: Sat Jan 14th, 2017 08:26 pm
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I like the metaloid very nice and the price point is excellent. What would be the best rod to throw 6 Oz and chukka pencil baits with fillets.

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Further to my original question, does anyone know if any tackle shop has stock in the St. Lucia, Richards Bay, Empangeni area?

Would like to hold the rod in my hand and give it a feel with my reel in place.

Also checked online and couldn't find them anywhere?

Thanks in advance.
Abram

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 Posted: Mon Jan 16th, 2017 06:57 pm
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Also looking for an online stockist

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 Posted: Mon Jan 16th, 2017 07:48 pm
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Contact Thinus at All Out Angling http://alloutangling.co.za/

Stock has arrived but basically selling out off the floor before they can load online.

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Hi Enigma/ Craig.

Thank you. Will give them a call.

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Are the Makaira 15' rods set up to compete with the Horizon?

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 Posted: Mon Jan 16th, 2017 08:36 pm
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Depends who you ask, my biased opinion would be that it is set up with exactly the same components in fact I believe a fewore guides to add sensitivity and hooksetting ability.

It casts the same range of.baits as far and pulls as hard if not harder

Like I said that's my life rather braised opinion

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Just out of curiosity...what would your completed build cost?

The Horizon is awesome but its pricing requires serious compromise on a budget

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It's a ready built rod with Fuji K Series and Mechanical casting aid (Trigger) in bag and Tube and recommended retail on the Metaloid is R3800

Not sure what Horizon is selling at but it was last R7500

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Hi Enigma

I test pulled the Makaira at a tackle store in Durban this afternoon. The salesman told me that one of the differences in the build of the Horizon and Makaira is that the blank of the base section of the Makaira goes through the winch down to the butt cap whereas the blank on the Horizon stops at the winch and shafting is used to attach the butt section.

Firstly in your experience with this rod is this true? and Secondly what are the pros and cons of this design, if any?

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 Posted: Fri Jan 20th, 2017 06:32 pm
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Hi Kamesh,
Enigma may have some views on the technical issues and is more qualified than most in that field so I will not go there.
What I will say is that in the world of rods of you pretty much get what you pay for. Thus its not appropriate to compare one rod with another one that costs twice as much.Bear in mind that genuine Japanese components are very good but also very expensive.
If money is not an issue then going for the more expensive rod is generally the right move.
That having been said, the law of diminishing marginal returns does apply so once you get to a certain level you can end up paying a lot more for a rod that is only slightly better than the next option down.
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Hi. No the Horizon is a single piece base and the Makaira has a butting in.

There is no change get in Action, the Horizon is around 2mm thinner on the blank, not the grip.

The Makaira has been built to suite arequirment of the many anglers for a softer tip and more power ie stiffer low down.

The Horizon is built for a specific action a d requirement in mind

The Makaira is built to be a rod on it's own and to suite a purpose of its own for a style and action required from many anglers.

The same with the Metalloid.

These rods are built with the highest quality.Carbon fiber in Okuma's own Rod factory and not outsourced to be manufactured.

Each blank is stress tested and load tested before any compo ends are added and random tests are done from each batch of rods.

The rods aRe well priced because they build their own rods and blanks. The rods are fitted with Guides and are bound in accordance with the Fuji specified NGC concept designed for casting Braid on spinning reels.

They are not cheap rods, they are however well priced, well built and high spec rods are sensible prices. They are rods that give you MORE than whatnot pay for

I just landed a 200kg Pylie in Struisbaai with the 14'6" Makaira with the 30000 Makaira reël and 80lbs Boss Braid over 600m 75lbs HMP 12 strand backing.

So just to say AGAIN..... The Makaira and Metalloid are rods reels of their own design, for South African rock and surf anglers.and were.designed with a very specific set of requirements, the Evo and Horizon were not copied or emulated so please dont compare the various rods.

In fact in hind sight the closest.in action would be an Azimuth and NO this wasn't copied.

Okuma (Sensation) is listening to the RSA R&S fisherman and getting the product right and in a price class that makes sense.

Those of you that invest in these tools will be more than pleasantly surprised and look at painting a Makaira and Metalloid combination of rods.

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