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 Posted: Sat Sep 27th, 2008 01:11 pm
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Hey guys,

I bought a Shimano Beast Matster Jigging rod yesterday.

Its a J Boat 183 Meduim Heavy rod rated 85 - 200g.

What reel would you suggest would work on this rod?

And for the guys in Pretoria. Charles Steward has some great specials going in the shop in Pretoria East...

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 Posted: Sun Sep 28th, 2008 10:35 pm
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I have a Abu Garcia 7000 reel for the Shimano rod.

What lbs line do I need to put on?

I am looking at the Tuff Line Braid....

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 Posted: Mon Sep 29th, 2008 12:23 am
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Gerhard wrote: I have a Abu Garcia 7000 reel for the Shimano rod.

What lbs line do I need to put on?

I am looking at the Tuff Line Braid....

100 - 130lb Tuff braid will pull most fish up!

not sure of reel capacity otherwise use 80lb.

you may want to go with 80lb Viper Braid or JigMan X8 as they have a different color every 10m so you can guage how deep you drop jigs vs where fish are hovering on fishfinder

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Gerhard... nice rod apparently... RoyBoy has got one too.

Tuffline braid is good, but Whiplash pro is the best for it's diameter. Tuffline is almost double the thickness of Whiplash...
This is important on a Spinning reel... 80lb Whiplash braid will get you about 200m only on a 6000 size reel! Thats not a heck of a lot of line to play with! Using Tuffline... you'll get about 120m on the same reel... There's no room for error here... it's hit and hold!


Dunno the Abu reels very well tho', so I dunno about them...

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Reefman wrote: Tuffline braid is good, but Whiplash pro is the best for it's diameter. Tuffline is almost double the thickness of Whiplash...

Ok, bring yor whiplash to mafia island and let's see who cries first :fbash 

on second thoughts i'll have a spare spool or two of Tuff, but you know the import costs levied in Tanzania will obviously not match the 30% discount from Mias:uzi:uzi

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GL wrote: Reefman wrote: Tuffline braid is good, but Whiplash pro is the best for it's diameter. Tuffline is almost double the thickness of Whiplash...

Ok, bring yor whiplash to mafia island and let's see who cries first :fbash 

on second thoughts i'll have a spare spool or two of Tuff, but you know the import costs levied in Tanzania will obviously not match the 30% discount from Mias:uzi:uzi

I see you mentioning Mafia island here.... have you fished there much before? I spent a few weeks fishing the Western side of the island and caught GT's, Couta and Queenfish till i could not pull any more.... this was from the boat though!

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Dorado75 wrote: GL wrote:
I see you mentioning Mafia island here.... have you fished there much before? I spent a few weeks fishing the Western side of the island and caught GT's, Couta and Queenfish till i could not pull any more.... this was from the boat though!


Hey D45

Any advice would be great. Reefman & I are going from 6 - 15 Nov. We fly to Zanzibar and then straight to Mafia Island. Plan is to target GT's, Doggies, Coral Trout, Wahoo, etc. Should also get some sailfish.

Skipper is bringing his boat from Kilwa Ruins (LeeCat made in Port Alfred) and meet us at Mafia, from there we will move onto Songo Songo and then ultimately end up at Kilwa Ruins. If fishing is good at mafia we will simply stay there and not move.

Will use big poppers and do jigging. What did you use to catch GT's, Doggies. Where abouts in Mafia did you fish? Any other advice?

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GL wrote: Dorado75 wrote: GL wrote:
I see you mentioning Mafia island here.... have you fished there much before? I spent a few weeks fishing the Western side of the island and caught GT's, Couta and Queenfish till i could not pull any more.... this was from the boat though!


Hey D45

Any advice would be great. Reefman & I are going from 6 - 15 Nov. We fly to Zanzibar and then straight to Mafia Island. Plan is to target GT's, Doggies, Coral Trout, Wahoo, etc. Should also get some sailfish.

Skipper is bringing his boat from Kilwa Ruins (LeeCat made in Port Alfred) and meet us at Mafia, from there we will move onto Songo Songo and then ultimately end up at Kilwa Ruins. If fishing is good at mafia we will simply stay there and not move.

Will use big poppers and do jigging. What did you use to catch GT's, Doggies. Where abouts in Mafia did you fish? Any other advice?


I was there on a 30m ship and we spent quite a few days anchored on the North western side of the island waiting for weather to settle as we were involved with a big tagging project targetting tuna in the indian ocean.

We however did have a unfair advantage, the ship had 8 big salt water tanks holding around 100 ton of sea water, and we would use a purse net to catch live bait that was used to catch the tunas, so while we were on anchor we had a constant stream of dead sardines and mackerel washing out of the tanks, and would have hundreds of GT's hanging around the ship grabbing anything that we would throw in the water, the fish were all between 10 and 20kg, initially i fished until my arms could no longer pull and then resorted to throwing plugs without hooks. There were also plenty of nice Queenfish and some nice coutas, we also landed a couple of Yellowfin tuna up to 45kg there, we were anchored in about 30m of water!

 

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thanks, we gonna put hooks on our poppers!!!

what time of year were you there?

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October. But it was really wierd,we did not get a single GT under 10kg or over 20kg! In one morning i landed 23 of these fish! I must have caught more than 150 of them when we were there, i released them all though. I had a light rod with 6kg line that i even used but it would take for ever to land them on this setup, and 9 times out of 10 they would break me off when they run under the ship.....

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The white teflon plugs worked well for GT's and Queenies!

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Hi Gerhard, I have the same rod. Well built and at a good price. I can't report back on it yet, because I ahven't fished it..... a few more weeks and then I can give constructive input. I have heard very few horror stories about it, most reports have been favorable.

Charles Stewart has caught many fish on it (including a few fair sized doggies)and is very happy with it's performance.

My feeling is that it will be great for smaller to medium sized reef fish, but will be undergunned if trying for bigger specimens, as it will have a problem cranking and holding biggies away from structure.

My view is that if the rod breaks, it provides an excuse to upgrade to something along Ocea Blue Rose.

On mine, I have a Penn Torque 300 spooled with Ande 80lb braid.

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I have one and friends of mine have a few. I am yet to land a fish obn mine, but my mates use theirs in kenya all the time. They have the med heavy as well but use trinidads and torsa's or toriums on them. They have landed Gt's to 45kgs on them, yesterday got YFT to 30kgs, numerous amberjack etc so they do hte job well as far as I am concerned.

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Great info tkei. Nice to know that they deliver the goods.

GT of 45 is no slouch!!!!

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tkei wrote:
I have one and friends of mine have a few. I am yet to land a fish obn mine, but my mates use theirs in kenya all the time. They have the med heavy as well but use trinidads and torsa's or toriums on them. They have landed Gt's to 45kgs on them, yesterday got YFT to 30kgs, numerous amberjack etc so they do hte job well as far as I am concerned.

Thanks for the info tkei.

IF everything goes according to plan I might test the rod and reel on the BIG GT's in the Musandam peninsula in Oman in a couple of weeks.

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Gerhard - Have you met or been in touch with Nick from Ocean Active up around Musandam? If not, try http://www.oceanactive.com and get some advise on lures etc from him...
Bear in mind that te Musandam GT's are considered the toughest GT's on the planet..... big, mean, heavy fish that will annihilate most set ups... I know Nick and crew are fishing mainly 130lb braid and anything up to 400lb bite leaders on to twisted leaders in the 130lb range and getting $1000 dollar rods smashed like toothpicks by the bigger fish.....

Get your A$$ in the gym before you go!! And make sure you take LOTS of pics!! :-)

Best of luck!

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Gerhard - Have you met or been in touch with Nick from Ocean Active up around Musandam? If not, try http://www.oceanactive.com and get some advise on lures etc from him...
Bear in mind that te Musandam GT's are considered the toughest GT's on the planet..... big, mean, heavy fish that will annihilate most set ups... I know Nick and crew are fishing mainly 130lb braid and anything up to 400lb bite leaders on to twisted leaders in the 130lb range and getting $1000 dollar rods smashed like toothpicks by the bigger fish.....

Get your A$$ in the gym before you go!! And make sure you take LOTS of pics!! :-)

Best of luck!


Thanks Boet,

I have spoken to Nick a couple of times on the phone. I am not sure what their set up is but they get stuck into monsters every season.

With the start of the cooler (no winter) season its also the start of the fishing season. I know they have landed a 40Kg + GT this season and lost one next to the boat that they guesstemated to be 55Kg's +

At this stage I will be just happy to get line in the water and play with the 25kg Dorrado's or the Cuta's thats also been coming out...

Will keep you updated....

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sounds awesome, tite lines!

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Gerhard - CHeck this couta taken last week off Nick's boat...

38 kilos, taken on a stickbait.....Yip, on a surface lure, casting....

Would LOVE to have heard that Stella SCREAM when that Couta took off on her first run!!!


The uys had hectic windy conditions, but got a number of GT's to 33 kilos, and a fair number of smaller ones in the 10 kilo range..... Also snapped a high end rod on a 10 kilo GT that hit right at the boatside and sounded straight down and the angler, fairly new tom popping didn't react quickly enough and she ended up with a rod in 3 pieces.... OUCH!

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Thats an awesome fish.

I have seen them...

Will be on the east coast in a week or two...

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