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 Posted: Fri May 6th, 2016 08:34 am
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well i don't know if it is the weather telling not to waste my time or not but im still at home no lines in the water because this wind around 50km/h easterly wind is blowing me away

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 Posted: Fri May 6th, 2016 08:43 am
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Haha, I got to work this morning and thought the exact same thing.

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 Posted: Fri May 6th, 2016 10:25 am
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EugeneC wrote: There are plenty venues with good fish, but it takes a lot of effort to find them. And trust me, when you've been through the mill trying to get access and then trying to figure out how to get the fish etc. you will also be secretive about your spots.

Some of the well known (public knowledge) spots that hold good carp are Bellwater Park, Doordekraal, Sonnestraal, Rondevlei (pay to enter, fish off the island), Zandvlei (a little dodgy nowadays) and Magic Forest. Of those mentioned the majority are a little sensitive with regard to whether or not you are allowed to fish and some are not all that safe either.

There are "private" venues that hold carp up to low 40's that I know of, some claim 50's, but I can't vouch for that.

@bassy, you either didn't read my post or you don't believe me I guess....go and see for yourself. A 4kg fish in that dam would be a good catch by the current standard.
I must ask...is BellwaterPark and Doordekraal not the same place ?Just going to where google shows where Bellwater is  and that is Doorde as I know it.W.r.t to 40+ carp. I've also heard ...but I think everyone is speaking about the same fish;). Someone I know goes there and he has not caught anything major for some time.

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 Posted: Fri May 6th, 2016 11:36 am
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😄 yeah, could be everyone's talking about the same fish. Doordekraal and Bellwater is the same venue. If you do a search on Sealine you'll see some pics of fish that came out of there. That's not the only venue with big fish though. The biggest carp I've caught in the Western Cape came out of Garden Route dam, there are some decent fish in there.

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 Posted: Fri May 6th, 2016 11:43 am
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@bassy, the best time to fish that dam is when it's raining. Many years ago I had a crazy session there during a big storm. I had the place to myself, no-one wanted to fish in the cr*p weather, in a 4 hour session I landed 21 fish, biggest was mid-20's and smallest around 15lb.

But that was a long time ago in the good ol' days. Sadly things are not the same anymore.

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 Posted: Fri May 6th, 2016 06:23 pm
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What happened to the specimen venue in klapmuts, I found the dam by accident when I was working in the area. This was about 6 years back.i asked around and everyone was very secretive about it.members fees sky high.

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 Posted: Sun May 8th, 2016 10:10 am
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Was there a specimen venue in klapmuts?

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 Posted: Sun May 8th, 2016 05:01 pm
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I don't work out that way anymore, dirt road to travel on to get there.if I had a bakkie I would go have a look

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 Posted: Sun May 8th, 2016 06:04 pm
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Ek neem aan jy praat nie van klipdam wat by die klapmuts afdraai is nie

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 Posted: Mon May 9th, 2016 07:02 am
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Nie klipdam nie, selfde afdraai maar jy gaan regs,ek will nie al die details hier gee nie, netnou skop die ouens my in my tsjops. Die spesie mane is maar gevoelig met hulle dame, ek verstaan hoekom ook, ek het n lekker plaas dam gehaad waar ek gevang het, toe kom breek n paar poephole bier botels daar. Toe ek weer daar kom word ek gevra om op te pak ek soek ook n dam om by te gaan vang.

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 Posted: Mon May 9th, 2016 08:20 am
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Dit kan ek glo.

Na elke sessie as ek oppak maak ek om my skoon. Mens kry gedurig rommel van hengelaars wat voorheen by die damme hengel soos vislyn, rigs, bottels en plastieksakke.

Ek kan nie dink dat dit moeilik is om jou eie rommel op te tel nie.

Mens moet maar agter jouself skoonmaak en klaar...

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 Posted: Mon May 9th, 2016 08:44 am
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This is another case to have managed venues. I really can't believe there isn't enough demand to fulfill this need. What do you guys think?

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 Posted: Mon May 9th, 2016 04:38 pm
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andriesyssel wrote:
Nie klipdam nie, selfde afdraai maar jy gaan regs,ek will nie al die details hier gee nie, netnou skop die ouens my in my tsjops. Die spesie mane is maar gevoelig met hulle dame, ek verstaan hoekom ook, ek het n lekker plaas dam gehaad waar ek gevang het, toe kom breek n paar poephole bier botels daar. Toe ek weer daar kom word ek gevra om op te pak ek soek ook n dam om by te gaan vang.

Sorry, I'm not so good at Afrikaans. This is one of the two reasons for the secrecy in Cape specimen angling, the other being the scarcity of venues with genuine big fish.

That's also why you can't reasonably expect anyone to divulge their secrets on a public forum - lots of guys pretending to be something they're not and also lots of pirates watching from the sidelines.

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 Posted: Mon May 9th, 2016 06:22 pm
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Stevens3, I've never been a member of a club or syndicate, so I might not be the best person to answer this question. For what it's worth though, if you were serious about pursuing it, I think you may be better off getting together a group of like-minded individuals (ie. passionate specimen anglers, who respect the sport and people's property) and then approach owners of private dams (farms etc.) with a proposal to pay for the privilege of fishing the dam exclusively.

I may well be wrong, but to my way of thinking an organisation like SACS would by now surely have tried to get a venue on the books in the WC, but the fact they haven't got any leads me to think there's a reason for it.

It would be a difficult project to launch successfully, but could be well worth it if you did. I for one would definitely be interested in joining such a group, but for the fact I'm not in SA.

There was (not sure if it's still running) a venue near Paarl, managed by a certain individual who claimed the dam holds 60lb carp...they were charging serious rod fees and pretty much everyone constantly blanked. That was open to anyone willing to pay, but didn't go over very well because of the outrageous claims that were made. If you do a search on other forums you'll probably find it, it's an interesting read if you're considering setting up a syndicate - some pretty damning mistakes were made in that particular effort.

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 Posted: Tue Dec 5th, 2017 07:08 pm
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The last two years I have been developing a new venue for carp specimen fishing in Cape Town.

The venue is in private ownership and is currently stocked with 200 carp of reasonable size.

I can accommodate 8 anglers per day.

Currently not offering overnight facilities.

Distance from Cape Town Center. 25 kilometer

For more information please contact me.

JJ van Zyl

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 Posted: Mon Feb 5th, 2018 04:22 pm
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Specimen Anglers in Cape Town should keep their eyes and ears open for a huge project I am personally involved in at the moment to get more venues and to get the sport going stronger down here.

Many do not know that there is huge carp in the Western Cape but due to past issues many venues have banned carp fishing completely.

Historically the biggest problem with venues in the Western Cape came due to a case where a group of anglers (not sure who they were but I have it on authority they were "papgooiers" - and when I say that I mean not neat and quiet, not worried about fish safety and bad representatives of the sport in general) went to a dam on a very well known wine farm without permission. After the farmer asked them to leave, they came back later that same night and physically assaulted the farmer landing him in hospital. Now with that in mind, if I was a farm owner with a venue, I would also not allow any fishing there. Fortunately, between myself and a few other anglers, we are slowly but surely changing the minds of some of the owners of the larger and well known farms and building trust with them. That way with their help we can get more venues and manage it properly. I'm actually in the process of developing software (for Android, IOS & Windows) to manage all of this. After an angler downloaded the app he/she would be able to join a club/syndicate and book swims on various venues in advance as well as pay for their bookings using the app. In addition, all catches will be recorded on the app together with details such as rigs & baits used. Sharing this info once the database is growing will be worth a lot and this way we can get the sport to grow. But we will all have to stand together for this and work to get it done.

Just hold on guys - its coming! :)

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 Posted: Mon Feb 5th, 2018 06:56 pm
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Dare I ask...can we see a photo of that 28kg carp please? TIA ;)

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 Posted: Mon Feb 5th, 2018 07:00 pm
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 Posted: Mon Feb 5th, 2018 07:21 pm
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No worries mate, I'm curious more than anything. I live abroad these days, so I guess I have to resign myself to neither seeing the epic photo, nor getting to fish for it. Good luck with your plans for a syndicate(?), Cape Town can do with something along those lines.

I hope the fish survives the current debilitating drought.

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 Posted: Mon Feb 5th, 2018 07:59 pm
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About the drought - that is a big factor for dams in general in the Western Cape - but fortunately there are venues that can be or already are being properly managed and it is unlikely that the drought will have a long-term effect on the sport.

But we are praying for rain everyday....

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